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Karl, I hear you. I don't see the exodus in my world yet, but I know it is out there and it will hurt. People are tired and they are sick of the bullshit. The culture of compliance, risk aversion (Korea alcohol ban), infatuation with glorifying support missions and ridiculous move towards complete centralized control are crushing us. There is no end to the deployments, ops tempo or chickenshit priorities, and the airlines are hiring and our skills are in high demand in many industries. Retention is a problem we need to get on now, and listening to those who are disgusted and separating is important. Now, I'm deployed again and life is good. Mission focus, no bullshit, killing the enemy, protecting the friendlies and the innocent. It is why I joined. Protecting what makes our AF great is why I'll continue to serve until asked to leave. If I knew how to put one of those beer mugs at the end I would do that here ___.

That is the stupidest list I have ever seen.

Shit, Cannon's getting AF-wide strat'd baby! Top 15%!! This made my day.

By including real estate prices in the index they've eliminated all of the places that the rest of the country actually want to live.

Kind of like comparing Somalia and Iraq for places you wish you could spend your honeymoon. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Enid and Honolulu tie? What editor had this slid across his desk and said, "Sounds good to me."?

They stopped at 68 so they wouldn't have a #69 and offend the "anti-sex" groups we have growing in our ranks (but we celebrate one group's "sexuality" with festivals and celebrations...but I digress). I mean seriously...who makes a list of the "Top 68 Air Force Bases"

I stopped reading after seeing Cannon at #10.

The Forks is 6, Cannon is 10, and Hickam is 47. Seems legit.

Wait - are you C2??

I think it's because you like being around the company of pilots...don't worry about it, I was once the same way. Before I was a pilot, I looked up to and wanted to be in the company of military pilots. By the way, any pilot or flying questions you may have, just ask away!! You're welcome!!

Lists like this are always a bit contrived, but this list takes the cake in terms of outright stupidity.

I'm pretty sure they don't understand their own data or method, whoever is replying.

Charleston Ties with Altus? Yeah because a base with beaches and a big city is equivilant to a four stoplight town with a walmart and McDs in the middle of nowhere. What were these guys smoking to come up with this, cause it has to be some good stuff.

Call TRICARE and/or TRICARE DEERS...they helped me answer some questions. I believe you become ineligible if you have even 1 day break in service from active to reserve for TAMP. http://www.humana-military.com/south/bene/TRICAREPrograms/tamp.asp#1 From some dudes I talked to who have been VSP approved and are not going into the reserves, they have said that they are covered with TRICARE Standard for an extra 180 days FREE, which I'm skeptical on and believe your benefits end on your DOS. If that's the case there's the CHCBP that your can purchase. http://www.humana-military.com/south/bene/TRICAREPrograms/chcbp.asp#1

Cannon > Hurlburt. Well, I guess someone had the be the devil's advocate.

The absolute biggest factor I've seen driving "fast-burners" to surprise everyone and quit are 365s (or other similar bad-deals), or the expectation of getting one soon.

Animal, getting a useless, box checking master's degree is a personal choice. You shouldn't use the wide latitude the AF tuition assistance program gives you to get a master's degree in a subject that you care about, from a university that you choose, in a place and time that fits your needs, to bash the program for being a waste of time. If you want to use a program that teaches you nothing, takes little time and still meets the minimum standard required to qualify as an advanced academic degree (busywork, as you call it), that is your choice. A master's in business, military studies, international relations, history or government will help you be a better senior AF officer. The last thing people should want is commanders and boards discriminating the quality and location of your AAD for promotion to O-6. Setting the minimum standard relatively low for a subjective requirement prevents alma mater discrimination and bullshit assessments about how hard you worked to get your degree, or how often you were published, like we see in the academic world. Hard work, success and competency are important at promotion boards, but an assessment of the ability to succeed in the next grade is also required. This assessment is subjective because it is predictive. We use stratifications and push lines to explain this assessment. Businesses don't promote merely based on hard work and success at current job. They may pay more to those with experience and a good record (like we do with pay increases in the same grade every two years), but they don't promote to upper management without considering whether they have the skills to succeed at upper management. Agree, we should be discriminating and selective about who gets promoted and I would argue that we are. But I also think the senior leaders need to be the people who determine how to discriminate and select, not the CGOs. What CGOs value at the time may not be what makes them successful at FGO responsibilities. The best critiques we can make are to point out how our system needs to be improved and how we selected the wrong leaders should be based on the specific leader's shortcomings and leadership failures. When morale is low, unit performance is below standards, resources are wasted, and the mission is not being accomplished, there is an obvious failure of leadership (possibly at many levels) that must be corrected. I think AF senior leadership is trying to correct that rotten core of leadership in the missile community. We should reassess what we got wrong at promotion boards and command screening boards that predicted these officers would succeed when they clearly did not. A useful way for senior leaders to evaluate the performance of their subordinate commanders is to read the anonymous but honest opinions of that commander's subordinates and peers. Unit climate assessments, IG/congressional complaints, face to face feedback, informal feedback (including social media) can all give indications of leadership failures. 360 feedback should be implemented immediately for all commanders. I'm not sure why we are so reluctant to do this. Commanders and senior leaders should be held to higher, more stringent standards and their leadership abilities should be more formally evaluated.

This argument could not be any dumber.

So were there no illegal immigrants prior to this administration or are you saying all administrations are guilty of this?

Umm, they wouldn't be illegals if we changed the system. What you are saying is, you don't care that you have to pay more taxes. You just don't want it to go to bettering other people's lives. Nice. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Be a bro and a peer leader. You should strive to be the best you can be, and that means bringing those up around you. If your peers are struggling, you should be helping them, if you're struggling your peers should be helping you, Foster the type of peer environment that you and your bros are on the same page and everyone's goal is to make the group better. The team gets better, then the Air Force gets better. The rest is just careerist asshole stupid shit.

Never miss an opportunity to STFU.

You think we'd see a reduction in expenditures? Whether we're spending tax dollars on welfare or on border enforcement, UAVs, investigating employers, etc we're still spending tax dollars. Once that money starts flowing to the new pots, those pots will continue to grow. Like I said during the last election- the only difference between Democrats and Republicans is who is getting the tax payer dollars. You're right. As I stated in the other thread, we shouldn't be hindering humans freedom to travel and seek out a better life for themselves. We should have a process in place that allows unrestricted movement but still lures them here through legal means so that they become another cog in the machine and not just a taker.

I just returned from Nellis. Was glad to see "Home of the Fighter Pilot" on the sign just past the main gate, in its rightful place!

It's definitely up there now

Is that legal? As a condition of employment?

I would say, ironically enough, that most people over-inflate the value of the service itself to their own lives. It's sad to see the occasional person who is deathly afraid of leaving active duty military service and the benefits that came with it. Like, "I will die in the street of starvation" levels of despair. And in 100% of those cases, the guy turns out just fine. In the majority of cases I've seen, they end up even better because they were held back from opportunities they never knew existed for them. All I'm saying is, if you had the drive and aptitude to suffer through the massive hoop-jumping marathon of shit it takes to be an AF pilot, you're probably going to remain well above the median of American society.

Just think, if we changed the immigration process so that those we would otherwise come in illegally could now come in legally we wouldn't HAVE to spend additional resources beefing up border security and could free up additional dollars to help our own. What a novel concept! But no, let's keep throwing more money at a process that is clearly and utterly broken.

Yes that is exactly what I'm saying because apparently you can't read a whole two posts back. Hey genius, if we didn't have to worry about a horde of illegals coming in because the system was changed that would allow them legal entry, don't you think it would be easier to control the border and manage the illegal border crossings by those unwanted elements such as terrorists and criminals? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

I like to think of it as visiting the zoo.

As entertaining as this thread is, the casual suggestions jokingly thrown about where we just simply start killing illegal border crossers doesn't seem so joking and casual when it comes up like 10 different times. It's like being around a bunch of guys who start making a few too many racial jokes and you start to wonder about the quality of the company you keep.