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That would be, in essence, the extent of the process that they are due. An officer in the field should be able to investigate and determine legal status fairly easily. I can prove my legal status lickety split...I get to stay. This idea that every alien should get hearings ad infinitum is absurd.

Buddy have you ever met a legal immigrant? My mother immigrated here in '61 and she still remembers her identification number. You think you just get a high five at the border and you're an American? There's documentation, paperwork, IDs. "Prove you are here legally. You can use any of the many forms you were provided during your immigration, or just give us your information and we can look you up" "Uhhh...." It is remarkable how dumb everybody is willing to play rather than just admit this is a no-brainer.

GMAFB, you are presenting the false dilemma: treat an unprecedented mass of illegal murderous gang members with the same deliberate protections of law provided citizens or we cannot maintain the constitution. I reject your premise. Is there any doubt how our founding fathers would've handled this situation? They were actively driving out the natives & preventing additional British colonists from staying; it was obvious to those who wrote the constitution how/when "due process" applies and who is eligible. Yet now we're arguing to obey the constitution we have to do the opposite of what the authors intended? Go with your opinion on the mandatory Covid vaccine, forced closure of churches & arrests of people engaging in the free exercise of religion during that time, assault weapons bans, sham trials for J6, FISA court abuses....

Progressives are now pro-Constitution, unless it’s the 1A, 2A, 10A…

Yeah but we put a poem at the base of a big statue we were gifted so that’s like law or something… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-reports-behind-closed-doors-pope-is-focused-sharp-and-energetic

If you are here illegally and are being deported but not charged, what due process is required? If you land somewhere and don’t have the correct visa you (hopefully) aren’t arrested and don’t get a trial. You get denied entry to the country and told to fly your plane back to where you came from. Same principle applies. Want to send em to prison, ya you need a trial. Send them back to where to they came from? Seeeya. This ain’t that hard.

Narrator: “In this forum, you can watch active and retired military officers who have sworn an oath to the constitution and American institutions pontificate that the 5th/14th amendments and decades of legal precedent around them are okay to be ignored if it’s in the interest of their political goals. Fascinating!” “Even one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.” https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/426/67 “It is true that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.” https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/345/206 It’s not about supporting or not supporting MS-13 gang members - you guys are presenting an entirely false dilemma. It’s about supporting the constitutional right to due process. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

What's funny is all of a sudden seeing all the articles written about foreginers getting the business at the border entries about their intentions and what not. Those complaining have definitely not traveled outside the US. Standard practice in ANY other country.

The Bee!!! This one might have been too soon. He’s not even buried yet. I’m not sure if I should have laughed but couldn’t keep it in.

Tile drill bit, little silicone, it'll work.

The tit for tat is kind of funny to me. Neither side is upholding any sort of standard. The left is completely out to lunch with its wild progressivism and violent activism. And the Republican Party, with Trump, now somehow whole heartedly supports policies that would have incensed “conservatives” not all that long ago. Sweeping tariffs, large spending bills, now we want to pay people $5000 per baby they have? To me, the Trump years will go down as one of the biggest wasted opportunities to have center right leadership in this country.

uh lets start with the ones that were arrested crossing the border ILLEGALLY then released into the country. genius.

Who's got one?

Now we have to define "due process of law".

There is zero reason a minute or a dime should have been spent on any aspect of a 35 year old design.

how do you know they're illegal?

Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?

Story time! This past year I was in a similar boat. After working closely with my outgoing Squadron Commander, I asked if he would be willing to write my letter of recommendation... He agreed, and before I could send him a draft, he sent me a complete letter of recommendation. This letter was personal and enduring. Our new squadron commander was in the seat for 3 months prior to last years board. He too was advocating for me and UFT/UPT. He made some calls and determined that the letter would hold a lot more weight if it was authored by my Wing Commander. I was very apprehensive towards this. His explanation helped me make the decision. "Rob, members report to squadron commanders and squadron commanders report to wing commanders" When the wing commander signs off on a letter of recommendation he is trusting leadership down the stream to vet each and everything he signs. At the end of the day, I sent my letter to the wing execs who, with the wg/cc, modified what my old squadron commander wrote. The adjustments were minimal and the letter still sounded very personal. Despite my commanders guidance and the outcome of my Wg/CC letter, I was still apprehensive about submitting this letter. My mind changed after my original squadron commander gave it his blessing. I will forever be grateful for his leadership and kind words. That all said, I was not picked up last year. This years plan is to write a letter with my leadership here and have a connection I made at SOS endorse/sign it. If I were a betting man, my letter of recommendation and its endorser had nothing to do with my failure last year. My poor AFOQT/PSCM score most likely the cause. (retaking it on 19 May and flying as soon as funds allow) PS. I've heard the personal letter hold more weight in some of the past boards, can anyone confirm that?

I would definitely turn at the merge with that thing... If I could make it there.