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No. I am applying the legal sense. There's not a court in the world that will convict that cop for shooting Babbit, applying the reasonable expectation. That's why no one is in jail for her death, aside from the obvious political bias in DC. You said it yourself. Beyond a "reasonable" doubt. You don't enter a locked door. It's locked. You break it down, or at a minimum defeat the locking mechanism. Those are proactive steps to violate a space. If you do not have a right to the space, which citizens do not have an unfettered right to occupy government buildings, you can not defeat the barrier mechanisms innocently. And if you do it as part of a rioting mob, as she did, I don't expect a cop to wait to find out, with his life, if they are just there for hugs. Trespass at your own peril. Rioting ≠ Protesting. It didn't for the George Floyd riots, it didn't for the Jan 6th riots. If things get so bad that I feel the need to riot, I expect for people to die. Sometimes blood is the price. Possibly even mine if I feel strongly enough about it. Breaking Windows, no unless there were people behind those windows that could be hit by the bricks. Lighting fires, if there was any reasonable possibility that innocent people were in the vehicles or structures at risk of being set on fire, open fire, and shoot to kill.

The slides are now green sir.

Apparently you haven't noticed, but WW3 is already on. Now it's all about the roll we (USA) is going to play in it. My guess is we reprise our WWII showing and stiff arm it until even the far left and far right isolationist in our country can't ignore it any more. Then we hit heavy. In WWII terms, it's 1938-39. How we should play in it is, and should be, hotly debated. But ignoring that international hostilities (remember your DIME levers of power?) have already commenced is flat-out ignorant. This thing is happening whether you want it to or not. At least acknowledge that fact. The sooner you move on to the solution phase, the less it will cognitively hurt. I don't want it either. No one should. But thanks to the likes of Putin, Xi, Kim, Khamenei, Biden, and others it's happening. Gotta take the world as it is, not as we want it to be.

Everyone knows Biden is a bumbling idiot, but this SecDef has got to be the most incompetent piece of lard ever. His combatant commanders despise him, his staff is full of woke Ivy League chodes that just get in the way of actual war fighting business and have no business sitting in their positions. The fact that he didn’t resign after the historic embarrassment that was the Afghanistan withdrawal is downright shameful. I’m not thrilled about another Trump admin but at least it may lead to some executive cleaning house.

Man I got stories for days from my time in AFSOC HQ....but now is not the time. I will say that there are always a valiant few fighting the good fight, but they are mostly beaten down by entrenched civilians with agendas, company men keeping their noses clean, incompetent staffers, and indecisive/weak/toxic leadership (take your pick).

Listening to anybody driven by political alignment defend this guys it’s clear they haven’t done any reading in his history. A reminder for the room, this was the COCOM commander that oversaw the rise of ISIS and its view by the admin at the time as a “JV team.” This guy giving the position to Votel was a godsend…. And then we put him in charge of everything because he checks a lot of boxes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Dayyyyum....

There's still an important distinction to be made. One committed a deliberate act to end his life, the other had no reasonable expectation to have her life ended while committing no acts of violence against herself or anyone else. If you're making the case consumption of unhealthy information leads to death, I guess you can do some logical gymnastics to reach that conclusion. But, only on one side do we see the completely irrational conclusion that self-destruction is a reasonable way to achieve a political goal. That's what makes wokeism dumb, and different.

Mid-90s and Iraq does some pump fake maneuver to the border. I'm at Shaw working in Stan/Eval and we get tagged to generate and deploy 2 F-16 and 1 A-10 squadron. The Wing had an upcoming mobility ORI event so we call Langley and ask them to come observe to get the ORI counter complete. They say "No" because it wouldn't meet their grading criteria. WTF? A real world event doesn't match the grading criteria? How inflexibly stupid is that and WTF are you grading?

This one is fascinating to me. This is young likely middle glass white kid in the military. He's not Jewish, Muslim, or Palestinian. I'd say the probability he's been to Israel, Palestine, or immersed in the culture of any ME country is slim to none. The chances of him having a close relationship with anyone who has is also slim to none. Palestinians engaged in direct conflict with Israeli, and who should have the most reason to engage in extreme forms of protest aren't doing such things to themselves. His mind was hijacked by an idea that came only from second/third hand information on a screen he held in his hand. That information, which had no direct effect on his day-to-day life, consumed and compelled him to destroy himself to one of the most grotesque ways possible. Now imagine being able to create and distribute that type of information. Wokeness is deadly. It's a parasitc infection. We may cheer when a woke moron offs himself, but it's important to remember that the idea that caused it is propagated onto others. It's how leftism lives on even though its hosts do not. It's an old video, but one I think of quite a bit.

Army slashing 24,000 troops from end strength. To better fight the next war. Probably doesn't have anything to do with the recruiting issues ongoing.

I live here & voted for him, let's fight! kidding of course. But I love moments like this, it's his speciality. Wouldn't support him for any other office but I do enjoy the rabble rousing and spear throws.

Your best bet is to score flying with other units. Your CC should help facilitate that. It won’t likely be the amount or consistency you really want, but it’ll keep your “head above water” flying-wise until the future aircraft course. Consider things like: - Augment another unit’s deployment, TDYs, etc. - Go TDY every 6 weeks or so to get a couple sorties with another unit - Look into ability to PCS to another unit for a couple years until the new aircraft training timing is right - Is there a TX available to attend earlier and you go to another unit with the new aircraft for a while until home unit has the new aircraft? All of these options are tried and true. Talk to your CC about all of them.

Good points. I understand your perspective. I have an strong urge to write a 20,000 words on this, but I don't want to derail this thread too much. Watch as civil unrest continues to increase in frequency and intensity. If you want to establish that witnessing destruction of property is sufficient cause for a government official to reasonably fear for their life and begin spraying, I'll think we'll face another Kent State or Boston Massacre at some point. Actually, that's probably going to happen anyway. Setting a reasonable expectation for it just moves up the timeline. Anyway, back on track. This is your United States Air Force. Or Space Force. Or whatever. https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1763536537520947682?s=20

Exactly this. There aren't many uniformed MWS guys in HQ AFSOC left (maybe a half dozen/MWS). It's a struggle between the bureaucracy, lots of change, and CC pet projects/good ideas. It doesn't help when the boss threatens to fire anyone who doesn't quickly implement his 50% more BS, 50% less FTU product. Ironically, it really seems to take a while to implement all this change when there's no uniforms left in the building to staff all these "priorities." Also, I feel it for the 'favored' community getting kicked in the teeth with more with less taskings, picking up FTU training, and one of the core mission events considered non-essential. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk

Some of us grew up in EUCOM, so before AFN there was SEB (serving Europe’s best). When I tell people what shows we were watching as kids, people assume we were forced to by our parents. Like no…. Adam West Batman and F troop were all that was on. Also Thursday night was designated black tv show night so you got to watch Sanford and Son and Amen. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The 'exercises' are an evaluation of processes and paperwork that NEVER get executed when actual real world deployments are executed. NEVER. It's just a giant circle jerk of outside agencies who hinder the process.

Until all the Panera workers quit and go to Micky-Dees. But then McD will start making their own buns and selling em. Subway is toast because their bread isn't bread.

Are you taking about filling the time gap between losing your current aircraft and going to training for the next aircraft?

If it is reasonable to expect to die, then you must also believe there is a reasonable expectation and legal justification to kill an unarmed person who has committed no acts of physical violence purely for the reason of attempting to enter a locked door. Surely there must be some law, or even Supreme Court decisions that address this.

You absolutely will, always, have a reasonable expectation of dying if you are trying to force your way through a locked door with law enforcement behind it. That doesn't make it right. But it is absolutely a reasonable expectation. You have to be fucking delusional to think otherwise.

Being right about covid is like being right against a flat earther. Not a very high bar. So now your argument is that because the European countries are a part of NATO, they are not allowed to engage in military conflict outside of the alliance without the permission of the US? Or of all NATO countries combined? So basically the existence of NATO means, non-nato countries are expressly excluded from any form of direct military support from NATO countries, because that would, in your opinion, necessitate the intervention of NATO as a whole, including the US. What a fantastically interesting argument, and then why wouldn't Russia want other countries excluded from joining NATO? Not only are they not part of the alliance that Russia overtly hates, but they are now fair game for conquest because NATO countries cannot defend non-nato countries by your logic, regardless of their regional interests in the war. Now, if you want to make an argument that the United States should declare ahead of time that they will not invoke Article 5 if NATO ground forces participating *in* Ukraine are attacked *on* Ukrainian soil, that's a more reasonable position. But your arguments is the best advertisement I've heard yet for other countries joining NATO. If you don't join NATO, there are literally no circumstances under which friendly NATO countries will intervene on your behalf. You're on your own, good luck. You're just arguing for pure isolationism. That doesn't have an impressive track record.

Got lucky. Only took out the restoration hangar

False equivalence. Ashley Babbitt didn't commit suicide. Or homocide.

As unbelievable as it sounds, I'm a fan of bringing the no notice inspection back. The prep for inspection crap is so stupid and the amount of organizations that think they can prep just for the scheduled test and let everything rot until then is insane.

And you're in here reading it. rofl

Guy needs to resign. Sub par general. Sub par secretary.

but we ARE meddling. we're attached to a little boys club called NATO. and if NATO troops get overrun and fucked up in Ukraine then what do you think will happen?! and once again Ukraine is NOT NATO. if europe wants to fuck around and find out IRT russia have at it, but don't drag our country into it. my arguments were correct about COVID. i assume they will be correct about ukraine.

How do you square that with the fact that not one but two NATO countries have in recent past (since he started aggressively annexing places) killed his troops. If you’re making the assumption that any provocative or challenging act could result in Putin acting irrationally, than everything from sanctions to Atlantic Resolve could be viewed as an overtly hostile justification to act, but that presumes Putin to be psychotically irrational or act in a way that all historic precedent says won’t occur. You have to make a long series of specific assumptions/action within this hypothetical simulation that is neither happening nor in any immediate future going to happen (direct deployment of combat formations). It’s not like 2nd Stryker is in the motor pool at Rose Barracks getting ready to reinforce some beleaguered Ukrainian mech brigade. And the attempt to paint the mere presence of any uniformed personnel in any capacity to be the equivalent of that as an act of provocation accidental or otherwise is just a false comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk