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Sorry to hear that but it sounds like you have a good attitude about it. That’ll serve you very well wherever you end up. Questions: 1. Yes, you’ll be limited to crew aircraft only now. That still leaves most of the inventory. 2. Your wings will only be stripped if they decide to go to a Flight Evaluation Board (FEB) and that’s the decision from it. I know a bunch of guys that washed out of fighter B courses and the vast majority got offered a waiver to a FEB and reassignment to another aircraft. Only one I know that was FEB’d and lost his wings did some truly heinous things that were deliberate and dangerous. 3. It won’t affect you at all. Just do great at your next jet and you’ll be fine. Plenty of fighter washouts have done great, gone to WIC, made rank, etc. It will all come down to attitude and performance on your next assignment. Keep up your honest attitude and that’ll do serve you very well. Don’t hide it at your next assignment and just be honest. Don’t do the “they had it out for me and it was all BS” routine. In terms of future assignments, you’ll fill out a dream sheet and go from there. Let your leadership know what you want and why and they will help you if you’re a good dude. Try to figure out what mission appeals to you and pursue that. And then whatever you get, that is the best jet in the Air Force. Good luck!

I try not to talk about money on the trip unless the other dude/ette wants to and usually it's more about future planning. Other day on the van, some FAs are with us, and 2 dudes from another trip are complaining about this pay that didn't get done right, and that premium, and so on. WTF, talk about the weather, pax fighting in baggage claim, or aliens. And if anyone humble brags about their awesome pay month, I say they get the dinner/beers check.

Support or don’t support whomever you like. Some of you guys give way too much credit to the “woke mob” or whatever the latest boogeyman is. Here’s the thing: Iran and the Taliban can both get fucked. It really isn’t that hard to figure out who the (admittedly flawed) good guys are in the Ukraine conflict though.

Knock it off. I let the lid off online. That was wrong. I had a severely grating experience with a virulently entitled older CA who decided to aggressively inform me that I need to work harder to pay 'my fair share' into social security so it doesn't bottom out on him. It's not the first time I've been shit on by these older guys, and I lost it, and it came out via whiskey, a keyboard, and the airline forum. Seriously bad form on my part. Post deleted. @HuggyU2, apologies for the hitting a sore spot. Thanks for the sage words of direction. I'm sure young huggy never shot off at the mouth or had the mayor throw a pool ball his way for buffoonery. The fact that, of all people in all the demographics, a select set of older airline pilots decide to dump on anyone younger than them in the work force has been seriously rubbing me the wrong way. But that's not an excuse. I'll get back to leaving the drunken posting to others. Oh the irony: ...an inappropriate and aggressive expression of frustration at getting generationally cornholed is met with "go fuck yourself". I guess there's solace to be had. I don't have to do it myself when someone else is already elbow deep.

Yeah, the ironically funny part of my post was that I was agreeing with you and cranking your sentiments to 11.

I think there is a video of a CH-53 doing a loop somewhere...

You can fly upside down in helos! (once)

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make... ... but how about you have a nice warm cup of go fuck yourself. OK? No, really... Go Fuck Yourself. Even if you're not double-jointed. Try your best. No, i don't need pics to prove you accomplished this feat, like you would post of your barista-inspired latte tomorrow morning, or the latest version of a beet salad for lunch. Just do it. Quietly. And be gone.

There are plenty of fighter wash outs doing good work in global strike and carrying far more weapons and gas than they would have had in fighters🤫🤫. Seen dudes move on to squadron command, TPS, WIC, you name it. A solid attitude and work ethic will serve you well no matter where you end up.

non-sequitur response.

Sucks that it happened to you, but you’ll be alright. I have a good friend who washed out Viper b course years ago, he maintained the tactical mindset and brought it with him to the Herk. He was/is a standout aviator and dude, he’s done well for himself in his career as well.

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Same! Agreed with Huggy on lecturing, but I'll certainly offer my opinion to other looking in. However, I won't feel bad for their plight after they just spent the pond crossing me telling me how they've been a WB Capt since 38, showing pics of their Porsche, Seneca (and Bonanza), their 200k+ backyard pool (house near a famous beach), their apartment in AMS...then lectured me on how we should support age 67 because they "need" the next two years. These people exist!

Yeah, you're not wrong. I fall into the "I don't know shit about investing" category. But... mainly on other airline websites... I read posts where pilots get on their high horse and admonish other pilots for their "need" to have an 85 hour month. Or they bad mouth this and that, and tell us how smart they are for doing X or Y. And if it works for them, I'm happy for them. But lecturing others is poor form. Some pilots are living on the edge of their finances because they are taking care of a parent suffering from dementia... or devoting their efforts to a special needs child... or dealing with a painful and costly divorce. Some have sick spouses that require treatments that exhaust life savings. Life is tough for many people. And before someone starts pontificating on how other pilots should be saving for college and how they should be more careful with their money... then they should stop... give thanks to God that they are not in a bad situation... and simply pray that others can find a way to become financially secure. Frankly, no financial advice given on this forum is going to make a difference. As such... I will shut my fucking piehole before I offer my less-than-sage wisdom on the subject.

Some of this thread remind me of my Tweet IP’s in 1986 who were looking forward to flying the brand new Fairchild T-46 in a year or two (?). I retired from the AF in 2014. In 2003 the AF announced the T-46/767 tanker. My Goal was to get a plug on the new 767 Tanker before I retired (11 years in the future) it never happened, Procurement takes forever. The T-46, Tweet replacement that never happened

It's really not worth it to worry about all this crap. I really wanted to go -38's and be a fighter pilot, pissed off a lot of people in Phase II because of that, ended up going to -38's and washing out of IFF. Not for any other reason other than it wasn't meant to be, I didn't have the ability I needed to complete the program within the required constraints. Just because you have x,y,z doesn't mean you are going to get a -38 and just because you get a -38 doesn't mean you are going to graduate and even if you do graduate with a fighter assignment doesn't mean you are going to make it, hell you can be top shit and then washout due to a medical/G issues. I understand that you want to know about all your options but this topic has been discussed to death, play nicely, study hard, shut up and color, maybe you'll make it, maybe you won't. Just make sure that it won't be for a lack of trying. If you don't achieve your dreams, realize that maybe the instructors that teach you might have seen you better than you see yourself, it sucks to be that guy, to face the reality that you aren't the right person for this job but it's good at the same time that the process exists, I'd rather be an asset than a liability.