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@wikz . This is where you tell lead that you'll take the fat one.

I can name 3 class As from the past 6 months that directly implicated decreased experience as one of the factors. Different pots of money...

Doesn't a form 8 in any other aircraft automatically drive an unqualified status? 202v1: "2.2. Requalification Training. An aircrew member is unqualified upon expiration of his or her qualification evaluation, loss of currency exceeding 6 months (for currency items specified in applicable AFI 11-2MDS Vol 1, IAW paragraph 3.4.3.2), or completion of a qualification evaluation in a different MDS (unless multiple qualification has been approved prior to the evaluation), whichever occurs first. The duration of unqualified time is from the date the aircrew member became unqualified until the specific retraining start date. For aircrew members who are not authorized multiple qualification and who complete a qualification evaluation in a different MDS, members must complete requalification training as specified below to regain qualification in the original MDS. For all aircrew members except flight surgeons, requalification requirements are as follows: (MAJCOMS may providemore restrictive guidance and may adjust requirements as necessary to allow for aircrew member experience level and similarity of aircraft types. Provide specific guidance in command supplements or AFI 11-2 MDS Vol 1.) (Terms TX-1, TX-2 and TX-3 identify formal courses required, from longest to shortest course.) (As noted below, completing the ETCA formal school flying training course is the desired standard. When attendance is not practical or quotas are not available, units will request waivers as specified in the applicable AFI 11-2MDS Vol 1, to conduct in-unit IQT, using formal school courseware.)" From the MAF side these at least used to be seen as a method to crossflow because they had to send you back to the schoolhouse anyways so you'd request a new mws at the same time.

AFGSC guys are currently still getting tagged for the deployments (last few have been volunteers). No formal re-qual required since they’re only out of the jet ~8 months.

Wow, what a change. Thanks for the explanation.

3 years later thread bump. Are these deployments still dropping with the stateside squadron stood up? Saw one come down maybe a year ago but none since. Also is universal qualification typically approved for these deployments, or some other reg that allows you to keep two qualifications? Needing a re-qual in your MAF airframe would make this a pretty shit deal.

@lloyd christmas I took your post and article to mean exactly what you intended, any side digging in hard and propagating their spew. My tin foil hat uncle is so far into conspiracies, I mess with him by saying, "That's what the Chinese want you to think." I'll try to find it, but an investigative writer did a story on a '24 congressional campaign that was trying to set a spending record. Dude flew to the state, listened to all the ads, went to bars and chatted with locals, and almost everyone asked on who they supported and why, gave at least 1 buzzword/phrase from the ad blitz, regardless of the side they supported. IDK if the writter asked how many changed their vote based on the ads, but the point was the ads do get inside our heads. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/election-results-donald-trump-kamala-harris-ads-montana.html

Hated working with her back in the day. I honestly thought she was nuts. https://www.koaa.com/news/covering-colorado/first-female-air-force-thunderbird-solo-pilot-using-retirement-to-teach-and-encourage-others

@lloyd christmas sorry my post wasn't meant to be a spear at you, more at Crenshaw. He comes off really holier than thou like he's cracked some code of critical thinking and is now immune to groupthink. Except he only seems capable of identifying groupthink when it occurs among the people he already disagrees with. As for the examples I provided, yes obviously there is a whole world of context surrounding each one. I would argue the same applies for BLM, trans, and all the woke left punchlines the right likes to oversimplify. My point was simply that at some time or another, the entire right wing in America was completely fixated on the issues I listed in a mass hysteria just like the left was with BLM or #metoo. And it was 100% due to the right wing media whipping them up into a lather about it. You think some republican in Kansas would have known a single thing about Benghazi if fox hadn't been shoving it down their throat every night for weeks straight? Of course not. 99.9% of people probably couldn't even tell you what country or even continent Benghazi is in. So reiterating my point here, if anyone is going to have a conversation about identifying and preventing groupthink and media programming, they need to do better than just listing all the crazy shit their political opponents do. The hardest groupthink to sniff out is the one happening on your own side, and only once people can do that have they actually obtained any level of critical thinking.

Speaking of which

Thanks for the response Pooter. I’m not one to get into internet arguments or go back and forth with people online. But, I’ll respond. I honestly wasn’t trying to compare one side vs the other, I was simply trying to point out that there is some interesting science behind the manipulation of large groups of people through politicians and the media and that there are real negative, tangible consequences because of the manipulation and herd mentality. With that said, I’m struggling to see how pizzagate, Obama birtherism, wind turbines cause cancer, the war on Christmas, satanic panic, or immigrants eating dogs are anything other than silly clickbait. Those headlines have not had a tangible negative effect on our society. The other examples you listed have had more tangible negative effects on us. Americans died because of gross mismanagement and poor decision making by those in charge in Benghazi, much like the exit from Afghanistan. Vaccines may or may not cause autism, however the truth is coming out about the vaccines. And it’s not good. Stop the steal references the 2020 election. We should all be aware of how big tech, social media, legacy media, politicians and Hollywood coordinated to suppress one side of the political aisle while ignoring true scandals by the other including the laptop and the pay to play schemes the Biden's were involved in. Hindsight is 20/20 and the truth always comes out. Hillary’s emails and the facts surrounding that fiasco exposed the double standards in the legal system between regular people and those in power. That’s tangible and factual. You and I would have been locked up for what she did. BLM marches and the associated violence based on policing lies caused real destruction as well as setting race relations back. Trans issues are very real. The massive increase in the trans population needs addressed. Whoever or whatever is driving this for profit scheme needs exposed. There are endless young people being physically altered permanently because of it. Jews are being harassed and now in at least one example killed over violent rhetoric on college campuses. Yes, groupthink is an issue on both sides. No doubt about it. I’m interested in the science behind it. That’s all my original post was meant to highlight.

Interesting that the only “manias” listed are the ones the left succumbed to. Conveniently absent are: stop the steal, Obama birtherism, Benghazi, but her emails, pizza gate, qanon, vaccines cause autism, wind turbines cause cancer, the great replacement, white genocide, the war on Christmas, satanic panic, immigrants eating dogs in Ohio.. to name just a few of the right’s greatest hits. Turns out, sniffing out manufactured manias and herd mentality is only hard when the propaganda aligns with your pre-existing biases. It’s actually super easy to tell when the “other side” is acting crazy. These guys haven’t discovered anything or improved their BS detection skills at all. Any discussion of groupthink that doesn’t acknowledge it going in both directions is fundamentally un-serious.

Just a couple of bat shit crazy chicks fighting over who gets to suck Michael’s (I mean Michelle’s) dick. Nothing to see here.

Secret Service-Ghetto division https://www.foxnews.com/politics/two-secret-service-officers-suspended-brawl-obamas-home

New investment strategy, TACO. Recent history checks, so far. I like the call sign, tho. https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/taco-wall-street-mocks-trump-with-4-letter-code-to-call-bets-against-him/

USN seems to culling the flag officer ranks the old-fashioned way; firing 'em... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-fires-admiral-in-charge-of-unmanned-systems-office-after-investigation/ar-AA1FAJJD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=14350348de02454eae9b6054564d11df&ei=10

Appropriate for this Memorial Day... World War II Bomber Crash Left 11 Dead. Four Are Finally Coming Home. As the World War II bomber Heaven Can Wait was hit by enemy fire off the Pacific island of New Guinea on March 11, 1944, the co-pilot managed a final salute to flyers in an adjacent plane before crashing into the water. All 11 men aboard were killed. Their remains, deep below the vast sea, were designated as non-recoverable. Yet four crew members’ remains are beginning to return to their hometowns after a remarkable investigation by family members and a recovery mission involving elite Navy divers who descended 200 feet (61 meters) in a pressurized bell to reach the sea floor. Staff Sgt. Eugene Darrigan, the crew’s radio operator, was buried with military honors and community support on Saturday in his hometown of Wappingers Falls, New York, more than eight decades after leaving behind his wife and baby son. The plane’s bombardier, 2nd Lt. Thomas Kelly, was to be buried Monday in Livermore, California, where he grew up in a ranching family. The remains of the pilot, 1st Lt. Herbert Tennyson, and navigator, 2nd Lt. Donald Sheppick, will be interred in the coming months. The ceremonies are happening 12 years after one of Kelly’s relatives, Scott Althaus, set out to solve the mystery of where exactly the plane went down... (Full story at the title link)

cliffs, the clowns kwast and cucklord wills destroyed the upt enterprise

aka even more so the t-38 bubbas are the only real, historically tested pilots

If it’s in good faith (you’re trying, just T-38s/fighters aren’t in your cards), the unit will generally try to help a guy find a heavy unit willing to take them. This usually works out. If its SIE, then the unit can retain you in another career field, release you, or see if there’s another unit who wants to take you for a non-rated job.

Man, that's some serious stupidity there. First of all, carrying a gun in the back pocket of your jeans and obviously sticking out enough for someone to not only see it but easily grab it? And then following that person when they are now armed and you're not? The dude gave enough intent by shoving him and pointing the gun at him to show he obviously wasn't giving it back. Call it a lesson learned and move on.

Hello to all, I was talking with a friend who brought up a valid point, at least to my untrained civilian brain, of what would happen if you are hired by a unit, specifically if you are hired by a fighter unit and you cannot mentally make the cut. Reasons such as motion sickness, not liking pulling G's, etc, what happens if someone gets into training, was hired by a fighter unit and the candidate says "I cannot do this, I am not for this job?" I saw one current HC-130J pilot who was hired by an A-10 unit had something come up to where this was a decision he made to leave fighter training, but that is my only data point. -RANDOM

Shot it again, pulled the jank dot plate off and just went irons. 2 inches at 7 yards. So not great, but better than before.