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Apologies for the crappy picture, but this is off mypers today.  Bottom chart is Nov increments and top chart is Dec.

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22 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

Glad to hear you still have the fight.  Is your commander in the fight with you?  Honestly, he/she SHOULD be the one leading that fight with rage, fury, and an unquenchable lust for justice.  You can still win that fight, I am simply curious as to the current state of leadership.

BL: It is not your job to write your OPR, PRF, or get to the bottom of why you did or did not get promoted.  That's a commander's job.  If your commander is not leading that fight, I would gladly rip that faggotrous pin off their chest. 

Ability to command and lead is demonstrated, not earned.

Geez, projecting, are we?  

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58 minutes ago, Bigred said:

Looks like line numbers are popping into MyPers now. 

So like I thought...I'm very close to the bottom.

But...better to be the last Lt Col promoted than the first Maj to be passed over.  I'll take what I can get.

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15 minutes ago, pawnman said:

So like I thought...I'm very close to the bottom.

But...better to be the last Lt Col promoted than the first Maj to be passed over.  I'll take what I can get.

whats very close to the bottom?

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4 minutes ago, BKANO said:

whats very close to the bottom?

My line number.  It's in the 500+ range out of 555 for LAF-A.  And since it's order of merit instead of date of rank...

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2 minutes ago, pawnman said:

My line number.  It's in the 500+ range out of 555 for LAF-A.  And since it's order of merit instead of date of rank...

gotcha. They are promoting like 50 people per month so your pin on will likely be like next July/August. 

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18 hours ago, General Chang said:

Geez, projecting, are we?  

Um, yes?  Though I'm not sure you have firm grasp of what "projecting" is.

Should I consider it an honor to be trolled by a king troll?  Why am I hearing mini-boss level music in the background?

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4 hours ago, pawnman said:

My line number.  It's in the 500+ range out of 555 for LAF-A.  And since it's order of merit instead of date of rank...

Hey, a line number is a line number.  Only reason it matters to me is I'm in DC and could use the cash.  The rent is too damn high.  

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MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS

SUBJECT: Promotion Selection Board Guidance

This memorandum provides guidance for your use in preparing instructions (precepts) for promotion selection boards convened under your authority in accordance with title 10, United States Code.

As indicated in the National Defense Strategy, China is leveraging military modernization and predatory economics to coerce neighboring countries to reorder the Indo-Pacific region to their advantage. As China continues to seek economic and military ascendance, it will continue to pursue a military modernization program that tries to displace the United States to achieve global preeminence in the future.

Recognizing this challenge to U.S. National Security interests, the Department must grow an officer corps that includes strategists and leaders who excel in their knowledge of the political-military affairs and U.S. strategic interests in the Indo-Pacific region.

You are directed to review and revise promotion selection board precepts and convening orders, as applicable, to emphasize the importance of having senior leaders with Indo-Pacific region experiences. Provide copies of the revised documents to the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. This memorandum will be effective for promotion selection boards convened on or after January 1, 2021.

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On 10/16/2020 at 6:31 PM, panchbarnes said:

MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS

SUBJECT: Promotion Selection Board Guidance

This memorandum provides guidance for your use in preparing instructions (precepts) for promotion selection boards convened under your authority in accordance with title 10, United States Code.

As indicated in the National Defense Strategy, China is leveraging military modernization and predatory economics to coerce neighboring countries to reorder the Indo-Pacific region to their advantage. As China continues to seek economic and military ascendance, it will continue to pursue a military modernization program that tries to displace the United States to achieve global preeminence in the future.

Recognizing this challenge to U.S. National Security interests, the Department must grow an officer corps that includes strategists and leaders who excel in their knowledge of the political-military affairs and U.S. strategic interests in the Indo-Pacific region.

You are directed to review and revise promotion selection board precepts and convening orders, as applicable, to emphasize the importance of having senior leaders with Indo-Pacific region experiences. Provide copies of the revised documents to the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. This memorandum will be effective for promotion selection boards convened on or after January 1, 2021.

Looks like FAOs for the indo pacific region have guaranteed themselves O5

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Looks like FAOs for the indo pacific region have guaranteed themselves O5


Remember when they did (tried) the same thing for the CENTCOM AOR? Pick your best and brightest and give them experience giving Afghanistan and Pakistan a hand...

At least indopacom should have nicer locations...
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Remember when they did (tried) the same thing for the CENTCOM AOR? Pick your best and brightest and give them experience giving Afghanistan and Pakistan a hand...

At least indopacom should have nicer locations...

Given that we are leaving the Stan, I’m sure there’s another reason to be glad not to be an AFPAK Hand.

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1 hour ago, MechGov said:


Given that we are leaving the Stan...

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Oh man.  That's rich.  You're good.  Tell another joke.

For the education of the masses, "We" is spelled "Army"  If you think the USAF is leaving any time soon, think again.  Just like "We" left the middle east after Desert Storm.   Yet the USAF has been deployed there ever since.  USAF assets will be the second to last ones out.  Not trying to rain on your parade.  Just gotta be a realist about it.

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I supposedly pin on 1Nov....no way this list is approved by Senate by then, right?  Anyone know ROE if Senate approves mid-Nov?  First tranche of promotees pins on the next day or waits until 1st of the following month?  First world problems i know...but want to get the folks in from out of town for a ceremony...which is difficult with no firm pin-on date.   

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1 hour ago, celtic020 said:

I supposedly pin on 1Nov....no way this list is approved by Senate by then, right?  Anyone know ROE if Senate approves mid-Nov?  First tranche of promotees pins on the next day or waits until 1st of the following month?  First world problems i know...but want to get the folks in from out of town for a ceremony...which is difficult with no firm pin-on date.   

https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/nom_cmten.htm

You're in the waiting game.  I don't see the Air Force Lt Col list even on the list yet.  If you are a 1 Nov pin-on and the Senate delays past then, I'm pretty sure you pin-on the date that they approve it. 

VMPF and myper promotion sections should have the exact details on that ROE though.

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19 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

You’ll get back pay to when you should have pinned on IIRC.


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False. In the delay of the 2018 release, it went until 12 December. They pinned on two increments with no back pay provided the day the list was voted approved. 

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On 10/16/2020 at 9:31 PM, panchbarnes said:

MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS

SUBJECT: Promotion Selection Board Guidance

This memorandum provides guidance for your use in preparing instructions (precepts) for promotion selection boards convened under your authority in accordance with title 10, United States Code.

As indicated in the National Defense Strategy, China is leveraging military modernization and predatory economics to coerce neighboring countries to reorder the Indo-Pacific region to their advantage. As China continues to seek economic and military ascendance, it will continue to pursue a military modernization program that tries to displace the United States to achieve global preeminence in the future.

Recognizing this challenge to U.S. National Security interests, the Department must grow an officer corps that includes strategists and leaders who excel in their knowledge of the political-military affairs and U.S. strategic interests in the Indo-Pacific region.

You are directed to review and revise promotion selection board precepts and convening orders, as applicable, to emphasize the importance of having senior leaders with Indo-Pacific region experiences. Provide copies of the revised documents to the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. This memorandum will be effective for promotion selection boards convened on or after January 1, 2021.

This is actually pretty funny. My five most recent OPRs that met the most recent promo board were all from my time in Hawaii (those were actually my best OPRs in my career too...including a boarded position). Why do they even bother putting guidance like this out? The board never follows it.

Looking forward to going back to Hawaii in a few years, after retirement, and getting that sweet GS job and not dealing with this stuff ever again!

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15 hours ago, war007afa said:

False. In the delay of the 2018 release, it went until 12 December. They pinned on two increments with no back pay provided the day the list was voted approved. 

you are correct. There is no back pay. I think it said it on MyPers. 

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On 10/24/2020 at 9:27 AM, BKANO said:

you are correct. There is no back pay. I think it said it on MyPers. 

Copy all.  Still going forward with my ceremony this Friday aka....about 8 people, one flag and several beers.  

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7 minutes ago, celtic020 said:

Copy all.  Still going forward with my ceremony this Friday aka....about 8 people, one flag and several beers.  

Is there any new info given the senate is moving forward with SCOTUS pick?

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11 minutes ago, Jetpilot said:

Is there any new info given the senate is moving forward with SCOTUS pick?

No new info but reasonable to expect a delay given the SCOTUS nomination and the election timing.   However, SASC can "voice vote" whenever they please after President sends his concurrence over to the Senate....so it theoretically could happen at end of month.  Often times, they'll voice vote last day of the month for large lists.  

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Continuation question, after reading many of the past few years' posts mentioning it.

Is there any reason not to take the continuation to 24 years if offered?  Let's say a person's ADSC had 12 months left, haven't taken any bonus yet, and they want to serve that 12 months as promised.  But then, at the end of their ADSC (& DEROS) they may potentially move on to other things such as Guard/Reserve, or alternatively may serve another 3 years AD and retire at 20, as long as the assignment is good.  If I understand correctly there's not a downside to opting for the 24 year option versus 20 year continuation.  The "person" could take the 24 year ADSC, yet still retire 4 years years from now at 20 years, or even still get out at the ADSC 12 months from now (16 years).

Does that check, or is something missing?

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