The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[Springer]

22 hours ago, Kiloalpha said:

History is replete with examples of totalitarian, divisive and combative ideology spreading through a society and causing its demise. Just because America has lasted this long, doesn't mean it always will.

I'm not saying we're on the verge of revolution, for the record.

Author unknown, yet quite erudite.

“Men, like nations, think they’re eternal. What man in his 20s or 30s doesn’t believe, at least subconsciously, that he’ll live forever? In the springtime of youth, an endless summer beckons. As you pass 70, it’s harder to hide from reality.

Nations also have seasons: Imagine a Roman of the 2nd century contemplating an empire that stretched from Britain to the Near East, thinking: This will endure forever…. Forever was about 500 years, give or take.

France was pivotal in the 17th and 18th centuries; now the land of Charles Martel is on its way to becoming part of the Muslim ummah.

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the sun never set on the British empire; now Albion exists in a perpetual twilight. Its 95-year-old sovereign is a fitting symbol for a nation in terminal decline.

In the 1980s, Japan seemed poised to buy the world. Business schools taught Japanese management techniques. Today, its birth rate is so low and its population aging so rapidly that an industry has sprung up to remove the remains of elderly Japanese who die alone.

I was born in 1942, almost at the midpoint of the 20th century – the American century. America’s prestige and influence were never greater. Thanks to the ‘Greatest Generation,’ we won a World War fought throughout most of Europe, Asia and the Pacific. We reduced Germany to rubble and put the rising sun to bed. It set the stage for almost half a century of unprecedented prosperity.

We stopped the spread of communism in Europe and Asia, and fought international terrorism. We rebuilt our enemies and lavished foreign aid on much of the world. We built skyscrapers and rockets to the moon. We conquered Polio and now COVID. We explored the mysteries of the Universe and the wonders of DNA…the blueprint of life.

But where is the glory that once was Rome? America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism – which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

We’ve gone from a republican government guided by a constitution to a regime of revolving elites. We have less freedom with each passing year. Like a signpost to the coming reign of terror, the cancel culture is everywhere. We’ve traded the American Revolution for the Cultural Revolution.

The pathetic creature in the White House is an empty vessel filled by his handlers. At the G-7 Summit, ‘Dr. Jill’ had to lead him like a child. In 1961, when we were young and vigorous, our leader was too. Now a feeble nation is technically led by the oldest man to ever serve in the presidency.

We can’t defend our borders, our history (including monuments to past greatness) or our streets. Our cities have become anarchist playgrounds. We are a nation of dependents, mendicants, and misplaced charity. Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.

The president of the United States can’t even quote the beginning of the Declaration of Independence (‘You know — The Thing’) correctly. Ivy League graduates routinely fail history tests that 5th graders could pass a generation ago. Crime rates soar and we blame the 2nd. Amendment and slash police budgets.

Our culture is certifiably insane. Men who think they’re women. People who fight racism by seeking to convince members of one race that they’re inherently evil, and others that they are perpetual victims. A psychiatrist lecturing at Yale said she fantasizes about ‘unloading a revolver into the head of any white person.’

We slaughter the unborn in the name of freedom, while our birth rate dips lower year by year. Our national debt is so high that we can no longer even pretend that we will repay it one day. It’s a $28-trillion monument to our improvidence and refusal to confront reality. Our ‘entertainment’ is sadistic, nihilistic and as enduring as a candy bar wrapper thrown in the trash. Our music is noise that spans the spectrum from annoying to repulsive.

Patriotism is called insurrection, treason celebrated, and perversion sanctified. A man in blue gets less respect than a man in a dress. We’re asking soldiers to fight for a nation our leaders no longer believe in.

How meekly most of us submitted to Fauci-ism (the regime of face masks, lockdowns and hand sanitizers) shows the impending death of the American spirit.

How do nations slip from greatness to obscurity?

• Fighting endless wars they can’t or won’t win • Accumulating massive debt far beyond their ability to repay • Refusing to guard their borders, allowing the nation to be inundated by an alien horde • Surrendering control of their cities to mob rule • Allowing indoctrination of the young • Moving from a republican form of government to an oligarchy • Losing national identity • Indulging indolence • Abandoning faith and family – the bulwarks of social order.

In America, every one of these symptoms is pronounced, indicating an advanced stage of the disease.

Even if the cause seems hopeless, do we not have an obligation to those who sacrificed so much to give us what we had? I’m surrounded by ghosts urging me on: the Union soldiers who held Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg, the battered bastards of Bastogne, those who served in the cold hell of Korea, the guys who went to the jungles of Southeast Asia and came home to be reviled or neglected.

This is the nation that took in my immigrant grandparents, whose uniform my father and most of my uncles wore in the Second World War. I don’t want to imagine a world without America, even though it becomes increasingly likely.

During Britain’s darkest hour, when its professional army was trapped at Dunkirk and a German invasion seemed imminent, Churchill reminded his countrymen, ‘Nations that go down fighting rise again, and those that surrender tamely are finished.’

The same might be said of causes. If we let America slip through our fingers, if we lose without a fight, what will posterity say of us?

While the prognosis is far from good, only God knows if America’s day in the sun is over.”

 

[Prozac]

Quote: America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism – which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

 

Pretty much everything from here on is complete and utter bullshit. We have moved to socialism? Really? Just what industries has our government seized control of? While I’m waiting for that answer, does this guy (or many of you) actually know what socialism is? FFS arguments like this are so full of hyperbole and bullshit it’s almost funny. This is exactly the reason most Americans won’t take the arguments of the right seriously. It’s constantly chicken little, the sky is falling and it’s utterly ridiculous. There are good arguments for conservatism but the right has thrown them away in favor of pure standup comedy. 

[dream big]

6 hours ago, Prozac said:

Quote: America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism – which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

 

Pretty much everything from here on is complete and utter bullshit. We have moved to socialism? Really? Just what industries has our government seized control of? While I’m waiting for that answer, does this guy (or many of you) actually know what socialism is? FFS arguments like this are so full of hyperbole and bullshit it’s almost funny. This is exactly the reason most Americans won’t take the arguments of the right seriously. It’s constantly chicken little, the sky is falling and it’s utterly ridiculous. There are good arguments for conservatism but the right has thrown them away in favor of pure standup comedy. 

No we haven’t moved to socialism, yet.  That’s what we are trying to prevent.  Let’s not pretend the two clowns sitting in the White House don’t have said ambitions (okay one probably doesn’t but he’s too stupid to realize his handlers pushing him that direction until he serves his purpose.) Let’s not pretend that the “Squad” and their wonderful entourage don’t espouse said views with a significant amount of youth popularity.  How many young ignorant Bernie supporters were there? So yes, we will continue to call the fringe left out on their BS.  This country is too precious for social experimentation with a poli-economic system that has killed thousands of people.  They only need to succeed once, there is no saving our country after that.  

[arg]

I was waiting for him to ask the poor black if he was able to get an ID card.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/penn-state-professor-student-white-privilege?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[08Dawg]

13 hours ago, arg said:

I was waiting for him to ask the poor black if he was able to get an ID card.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/penn-state-professor-student-white-privilege?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Wonder what happens when that student decides he’s had enough of that bullshit, tells the prof to fuck off for trying to make an example out of him like that, and leaves?  Because that’s what I would do. 

[Guardian]

Wonder how the Asians in the class feel.

[pawnman]

1 hour ago, 08Dawg said:

Wonder what happens when that student decides he’s had enough of that bullshit, tells the prof to fuck off for trying to make an example out of him like that, and leaves?  Because that’s what I would do. 

They fail the class and potentially get expelled for "racist behavior".

[Lawman]

They fail the class and potentially get expelled for "racist behavior".

I mean… anybody familiar with old world Asian racism would admit they put a lot of the stereotype Redneck racists to shame…

Had a 1st Gen Korean roommate in college lay out the sort of triangle hierarchy of Asian hatreds his parents were vehemently bound too. Crazy stuff…


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[kaputt]

19 minutes ago, Lawman said:

I mean… anybody familiar with old world Asian racism would admit they put a lot of the stereotype Redneck racists to shame…

Had a 1st Gen Korean roommate in college lay out the sort of triangle hierarchy of Asian hatreds his parents were vehemently bound too. Crazy stuff…


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Don’t bring those lies in here.
 

Hadn’t you heard? Racism is purely an American creation and it’s solely perpetuated by white people. 

 

Edit: 69th page of this thread. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by kaputt

[BashiChuni]

showing ID to vote is RACIST

[Guardian]

Saying people should immigrate legally according to the laws of the land they are attempting to join us racist.

[GrndPndr]

18 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

showing ID to vote is RACIST

I can't tell if you're Sarcasming (sts) or not.

[BashiChuni]

6 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

I can't tell if you're Sarcasming (sts) or not.

I am

[ViperMan]

10 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

I can't tell if you're Sarcasming (sts) or not.

Asking if that was sarcasm (or not) was RACIST.

[Prozac]

Going to leave this clip here:

I’m not exactly a fan of Shapiro but I think he makes his case quite well here. Nance does not do much to make his own case here and I have to say I find myself much more closely aligned to Maher’s stance here. But I really want to present this as an example of how to have a respectful discourse without resorting to hyperbole and emotion (at least on Maher’s and Shapiro’s part). I give Shapiro credit here for being calm and logical and I wish we had more people on both sides willing to have rational discussions like this (again, disregarding Nance’s poor performance here). 

[kaputt]

Malcom Nance, in that video, is the perfect summary of the modern American left. Zero fact based arguments, a complete lack of knowledge on the ideas he is defending, retorts are all based on emotion or are irrelevant to the topic at hand, and his smug elitism is palpable. The fact that he was wildly cheered every time he spoke was very sad. 
 

I’ve always liked Bill Maher despite often disagreeing with him. He is someone who has zero tolerance for bullshit and is not afraid to call it out. I wish there were more like him. I think a conversation between him and Shapiro would be a great listen. Nance is an absolute joke. 

[pawnman]

Racist Boulder removed from University of Wisconsin. 

Maybe they dug up the rock's Twitter account?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/university-wisconsin-removes-rock-sign-racism-79313853

[Guardian]

Malcom Nance, in that video, is the perfect summary of the modern American left. Zero fact based arguments, a complete lack of knowledge on the ideas he is defending, retorts are all based on emotion or are irrelevant to the topic at hand, and his smug elitism is palpable. The fact that he was wildly cheered every time he spoke was very sad. 
 
I’ve always liked Bill Maher despite often disagreeing with him. He is someone who has zero tolerance for bullshit and is not afraid to call it out. I wish there were more like him. I think a conversation between him and Shapiro would be a great listen. Nance is an absolute joke. 

Regardless of Bill or Ben, Malcolm made himself look like an idiot in that clip. Worst thing was the audience was waiting with abated breath to clap and cheer at everything he said even though a lot of it was contradictory to other things he was saying, not related to the topic, or gibberish. Speaks poorly of the people in that audience.

[Prozac]

57 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Regardless of Bill or Ben, Malcolm made himself look like an idiot in that clip. Worst thing was the audience was waiting with abated breath to clap and cheer at everything he said even though a lot of it was contradictory to other things he was saying, not related to the topic, or gibberish. Speaks poorly of the people in that audience.

Don’t disagree. Just wanted to highlight the dialogue between Maher and Shapiro as something refreshing. Two people on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum can have a rational conversation, recognize that an issue has nuance, and even discover there are details they can agree on even if they disagree on the larger issue. 

[uhhello]

3 hours ago, Guardian said:

Regardless of Bill or Ben, Malcolm made himself look like an idiot in that clip. Worst thing was the audience was waiting with abated breath to clap and cheer at everything he said even though a lot of it was contradictory to other things he was saying, not related to the topic, or gibberish. Speaks poorly of the people in that audience.

He comes off as a giant smug douchebag.  

[gearhog]

War is over. Time to turn inward.

[skybert]

Looks like I’m a threat to the nation, even though I wore the uniform for ten years.

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, skybert said:

Looks like I’m a threat to the nation, even though I wore the uniform for ten years.

Not just any old threat... A terror threat 😂🤣

[pawnman]

They know Christmas is a religious holiday, right?

[Guest]

On 8/7/2021 at 6:28 PM, Prozac said:

Don’t disagree. Just wanted to highlight the dialogue between Maher and Shapiro as something refreshing. Two people on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum can have a rational conversation, recognize that an issue has nuance, and even discover there are details they can agree on even if they disagree on the larger issue. 

Shapiro being on the opposite side of the ideological spectrum from Maher?  🤣