COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[brickhistory]

I am genuinely shocked and dismayed at the government reactions from governments I considered democratic and more liberal than us.

Namely, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, and somewhat the UK.  I simply could not imagine the measures they've implemented at government whim, not population voting.

I have always been supportive of the Second Amendment as one area where I can enjoy basic God-given rights, but I begin to understand the Founder's intent in specifically enumerating this right, perhaps.

[Lord Ratner]

On 2/18/2022 at 4:27 PM, bennynova said:

Interesting how much cancer and myocarditis and miscarriages have risen in the military demographic.   Which isn’t as obese as the rest of the USA.

Also not particularly interesting. Myocarditis is a well-established side effect of covid, both naturally occurring and vaccine-induced. In fact the only studies comparing it to the vaccine show that there is a higher rate of myocarditis in people who get the actual disease versus the vaccine.

 

Now, we don't have any information showing whether myocarditis from the omicron variant is more pervasive than myocarditis from the vaccine. It's very possible that the vaccine is taking the lead, given the dramatic reduction in severity of omicron.

 

Miscarriages wouldn't surprise me, I thought it was pretty crazy that they were recommending pregnant women get the vaccine. I certainly wouldn't want anyone in my family getting it while pregnant. I've seen zero data that suggests cancer is somehow connected to covid or the vaccine.

 

But to the original point, there is a direct and established correlation between obesity and covid severity, second only to age. And we have so many obese disgusting old people in America it actually seems normal to see some jiggly old corpse bumbling around the grocery store. So comparisons between countries with minuscule obesity rates and ours are going to be contaminated.

[Lord Ratner]

39 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

I am genuinely shocked and dismayed at the government reactions from governments I considered democratic and more liberal than us.

Namely, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, and somewhat the UK.  I simply could not imagine the measures they've implemented at government whim, not population voting.

I have always been supportive of the Second Amendment as one area where I can enjoy basic God-given rights, but I begin to understand the Founder's intent in specifically enumerating this right, perhaps.

I've never understood why people consider those countries to be more liberal. I suppose in the more modern progressive sense of the word, but I can't think of any country that's more liberal than the United States in the classical sense. We're still the only country with a true first amendment.

 

I still think the two best examples of why we have the second amendment are Waco and the Cliven Bundy standoff. The latter demonstrates how the second amendment can prevent government overreach, the former demonstrate how it amplifies the cost of government overreach to prevent future occurrences. I'm surprised we haven't had any good examples from the pandemic.

[tac airlifter]

CDC intentionally withholding COVAX data.

I’m so confused why this would be.  I thought vaccine efficacy and booster necessity was settled science.  If there’s one thing I’m 100% certain of because I’ve been told by the establishment, it’s these vaccines are safe and effective.  True you still get C19 after taking the vaccine even though they told us we wouldn’t, but I’m faithful the symptoms are more mild for vaccinated individuals.  Given all that, why aren’t the experts being completely forthright with all the data collected?  I want to prove these anti-vax science deniers wrong; if the CDC could be more open I’m sure it would reinforce their messaging.  
 

[ClearedHot]

17 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

CDC intentionally withholding COVAX data.

I’m so confused why this would be.  I thought vaccine efficacy and booster necessity was settled science.  If there’s one thing I’m 100% certain of because I’ve been told by the establishment, it’s these vaccines are safe and effective.  True you still get C19 after taking the vaccine even though they told us we wouldn’t, but I’m faithful the symptoms are more mild for vaccinated individuals.  Given all that, why aren’t the experts being completely forthright with all the data collected?  I want to prove these anti-vax science deniers wrong; if the CDC could be more open I’m sure it would reinforce their messaging.  
 

 

[Sim]

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

[Blue]

41 minutes ago, Sim said:

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

That link appears to go to a scientific paper, and the video is 25 minutes long.

 

Can you give a cliffs notes version of it all?

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

That link appears to go to a scientific paper, and the video is 25 minutes long.

 

Can you give a cliffs notes version of it all?

"Our study shows that [Pfizer Vaccine] can be reverse transcribed to DNA in liver cell line Huh7, and this may give rise to the concern if [Pfizer Vaccine]-derived DNA may be integrated into the host genome and affect the integrity of genomic DNA, which may potentially mediate genotoxic side effects. At this stage, we do not know if DNA reverse transcribed from [Pfizer Vaccine] is integrated into the cell genome. Further studies are needed to demonstrate the effect of [Pfizer Vaccine] on genomic integrity, including whole genome sequencing of cells exposed to [Pfizer Vaccine], as well as tissues from human subjects who received BNT162b2 vaccination."

 

[BashiChuni]

so i guess covid's over huh?

midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc

so scientific!

[TheNewGazmo]

so i guess covid's over huh?
midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc
so scientific!

And Russia/Ukraine. COVID is definitely not as doom and gloom as the chance of nuclear war.

[lloyd christmas]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

so i guess covid's over huh?

midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc

so scientific!

Funny how that works.  

[brickhistory]

I wonder if any of the supporters of the storming of COVID Beach regret the needless casualties DoD suffered now that the world is going back to somewhat normal?

I'm betting not.

[glockenspiel]

23 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

so i guess covid's over huh?

midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc

so scientific!

Well the ScIEnCe has changed. get with the times.

[skybert]

Plus free crack pipes! Biden 2024

[Sim]

 

[Guardian]

Still doesn’t make sense to me that if there are mask mandates why the vaccinated don’t have to wear masks. Hasn’t made any sense since the vaccine came out.

If you have the vaccine and covid with almost no symptoms you are just spreading it about.

Anyone explain that one?

[CaptainMorgan]

Still doesn’t make sense to me that if there are mask mandates why the vaccinated don’t have to wear masks. Hasn’t made any sense since the vaccine came out.

If you have the vaccine and covid with almost no symptoms you are just spreading it about.

Anyone explain that one?

Prior to Omicron, the vaccine was thought to effectively reduce risk of and severity of infection. If you’re not infected, you can’t spread it; if the severity is reduced, then presumably the viral load and risk of spreading were also reduced.

Realistically, the “no-mask if you’re vaxed” policies were probably just to incentivize getting the jab.

[BashiChuni]

Clearly COVID is being pivoted away from. It’s over. Thankfully. Although the deaths are higher this year. But doesn’t feel like it due to media turning down the fear mongering. 
 

I bet they’ll try to bring restrictions and masks back in the fall when we get a spike. 

[lloyd christmas]

[dream big]

On 2/28/2022 at 4:13 PM, TheNewGazmo said:

On 2/28/2022 at 3:34 PM, BashiChuni said:

so i guess covid's over huh?
midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc
so scientific!

And Russia/Ukraine. COVID is definitely not as doom and gloom as the chance of nuclear war.

It never was, the hype was a convenient distraction from how incompetent the left’s president is.  What is it, never let a good crisis go to waste?

[Sim]

Well. Well. Well.  "horse paste" for the win. 

[Sim]

 

[Sim]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21562517-reed-oconnor-ruling

Quote

The new ruling means “anyone in the U.S. Navy whose religious accommodation from the vaccine mandate was denied is now protected from any sort of punishment or involuntary separation, things like that,” said Mike Berry, a lawyer with First Liberty Institute, which represents the plaintiffs in the case.

 

[glockenspiel]

https://fb.watch/c40sAzGDis/

All of a sudden, he is stating that they haven't been using BLA compliant vaccines this whole time. This General is probably just misinformed or perhaps he is just an armchair lawyer. Who cares if the DoD follows the law, all vaccines are probably made well enough right? EUA, BLA who gives a shit?

21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

But before we dig any further, the war is heating up. Keep your phones and TVs on at all times tuned to CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC etc. etc. 

[tac airlifter]

Quick update- still no FDA approved vaccine available at my base clinic or local Walgreens.  Our only option remains the EUA vaccine, accompanied by an unproven manufacturers claim it is the same.