pawnman Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, brabus said: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated It is unreal how many Americans have lost all concept of the constitution, basic American/human rights, and are hell bent on dehumanizing fellow Americans who don’t have the same viewpoint as them. They make excuses for themselves to justify their abhorrent behavior. How about accept this is a free country and you will disagree with others, but you should be able to do so while treating them as a neighbor and not as a piece of valueless trash. Here are some highlights for those who don’t want to read the whole thing: - Zero fucks given for 1st Amendment: “Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.” - Take freedom from others, but not from me (because I’m…insert excuse to justify horrible actions): “Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.” - Taking your kids away because I don’t agree with you: “Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.” I wonder if they have any idea that minorities have a lower vaccination rate than whitey. We're already seeing the wedges in places like NYC, where a restaurant was called racist for enforcing the vaccine mandate and refusing service to three black women.
brabus Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pawnman said: I wonder if they have any idea that minorities have a lower vaccination rate than whitey. We're already seeing the wedges in places like NYC, where a restaurant was called racist for enforcing the vaccine mandate and refusing service to three black women. I don’t believe they’ve connected those dots (or several other dots). It’s all about frothing-at-the-mouth outrage and separating people into worthy and unworthy groups - logic, laws, respect, and history be damned. Edited January 18, 2022 by brabus 1
Blue Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, brabus said: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated It is unreal how many Americans have lost all concept of the constitution, basic American/human rights, and are hell bent on dehumanizing fellow Americans who don’t have the same viewpoint as them. They make excuses for themselves to justify their abhorrent behavior. How about accept this is a free country and you will disagree with others, but you should be able to do so while treating them as a neighbor and not as a piece of valueless trash. 26 minutes ago, Guardian said: We are a society of victims. I wish that survey had broken out responses by gender. Unpopular opinion, but when I see any online discussion of Covid where the respondent's gender is identified, it's always the females who are the most adamant about damning the unvaxxed to the pits of hell. Reasoned or nuanced discussion be damned. Edited January 18, 2022 by Blue 1
Lord Ratner Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, pawnman said: I wonder if they have any idea that minorities have a lower vaccination rate than whitey. We're already seeing the wedges in places like NYC, where a restaurant was called racist for enforcing the vaccine mandate and refusing service to three black women. That's been the vulnerability of the progressive/socialist/Marxist movement for decades. The philosophy of "do what we say and we'll reach utopia together" always crashes into the inescapable conflict of the people they (the elite) are trying to save (the proletariat) not wanting to follow the orders meant to save them. Then comes the blood shed. 3
BashiChuni Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 vax passports need to phased out per Israeli expert https://unherd.com/thepost/israeli-vaccine-chief-we-have-made-mistakes/
Blue Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Per multiple news sources, https://www.covidtests.gov/ is now live, allowing Americans to order up to four at-home Covid tests per household. President Biden has ordered 500 million tests, with a follow-on order for another 500 million. So, it sounds like the intent is to more or less flood the country with at-home tests. Couple thoughts: - All of the testing will drive the case counts into the stratosphere. - With all of the tests out there, will mandates start to include proof of a negative test in order to work/dine out/etc?
slc Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Blue said: Per multiple news sources, https://www.covidtests.gov/ is now live, allowing Americans to order up to four at-home Covid tests per household. President Biden has ordered 500 million tests, with a follow-on order for another 500 million. So, it sounds like the intent is to more or less flood the country with at-home tests. Couple thoughts: - All of the testing will drive the case counts into the stratosphere. - With all of the tests out there, will mandates start to include proof of a negative test in order to work/dine out/etc? Ha! Just ordered mine about 2 hrs ago. USPS emailed and will send tracking no end Jan for an "expected" ship time. Can't wait to see how this shit show plays out.
Muscle2002 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blue said: Per multiple news sources, https://www.covidtests.gov/ is now live, allowing Americans to order up to four at-home Covid tests per household. President Biden has ordered 500 million tests, with a follow-on order for another 500 million. So, it sounds like the intent is to more or less flood the country with at-home tests. Couple thoughts: - All of the testing will drive the case counts into the stratosphere. - With all of the tests out there, will mandates start to include proof of a negative test in order to work/dine out/etc? Our tax dollars at work in this morass of fraud, waste, and abuse. I could have countenanced them supplying tests in early autumn, ahead of the expected winter surge (omicron variant or otherwise), but this seems like too little too late and just a blatant play to score political points. Edited January 18, 2022 by Muscle2002 1 1
M2 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 A buddy of mine just tested positive, after several home tests showed him being negative...
TheNewGazmo Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 A buddy of mine just tested positive, after several home tests showed him being negative...User error. Gotta jam that thing up in there real good. I hear the new rectal tests are going to be 1,000× more accurate and are going to really "flatten the curve". 1
Prozac Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, TheNewGazmo said: User error. Gotta jam that thing up in there real good. I hear the new rectal tests are going to be 1,000× more accurate and are going to really "flatten the curve". Do you have to pay extra for those? Asking for a friend. 3
Sim Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 https://www.the-sun.com/health/4494386/boris-johnson-plan-b-restrictions/ Quote From Thursday morning face masks will no longer be legally required anywhere in the country. Brits will still be urged to wear masks in crowded places, but will not be fined for refusing to do so. At the same time Covid passports will be axed but similarly big venues can choose to use them if wanted. Guidance to work from home will be dropped, with workers expected to go back to their offices. The only remaining rule will be the requirement to self-isolate for five days after testing positive for Covid, which Mr Johnson also wants to drop in March. England for the win. 1 7
TheNewGazmo Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sim said: https://www.the-sun.com/health/4494386/boris-johnson-plan-b-restrictions/ England for the win. Looks like Johnson is putting his Johnson on the table. Finally, someone with some common sense. Edited January 19, 2022 by TheNewGazmo 2
brickhistory Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: Wonder how low his poll numbers were… Sub-surface... This clip is from his own party in Parliament. I dig how the Brits do it sometimes. "In the name of God, go!"
Lord Ratner Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 18 hours ago, TheNewGazmo said: Looks like Johnson is putting his Johnson on the table. Finally, someone with some common sense. Only because he got caught throwing a party. Rules for thee but not for me 2
Sim Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Quote A new report released on Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revealed that unvaccinated people who recovered from COVID-19 were better protected than those who were vaccinated and not previously infected during the recent delta surge. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/cdc-reveals-natural-immunity-acquired-previous-infection-covid-19-provides-protection-vaccines/ Remember that time when my flight doc said vaxed are 3x better protected than natural immunity. Same was said in media talking points. 🤮 2
BashiChuni Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 the tide of stupidity is turning...but the stupid ones are doubling down 3
Pooter Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Sim said: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/cdc-reveals-natural-immunity-acquired-previous-infection-covid-19-provides-protection-vaccines/ Remember that time when my flight doc said vaxed are 3x better protected than natural immunity. Same was said in media talking points. 🤮 You're right. The narrative against proponents of natural immunity has been some serious horseshit. It's always been conventional medical wisdom that contracting and then recovering from something is the gold standard of immunity going forward. But.. to play devils advocate here.. there are a lot of people who think they have natural immunity, and probably don't. I can't count the number of times I've heard someone claim they had covid in spring 2020 because they had the sniffles or felt a tingle in their jimmies. "yeah I was probably like one of the first cases" "oh really?" "yeah I felt under the weather back in March of 2020" "did you get tested?" "no, but it was probably covid"
Sim Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Oh looky what email I just received. Quote Dear beneficiary, The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for Paxlovid for the treatment of mild-to-moderate COVID-19 in adults and pediatric patients over 12. Paxlovid is covered for TRICARE beneficiaries if ordered by a provider. This treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after diagnosis of COVID-19 and within five days of symptom onset. Talk to your Primary Care Manager (PCM) to determine whether, based on your individual circumstances, you are eligible to receive Paxlovid. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-first-oral-antiviral-treatment-covid-19
Lord Ratner Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Pooter said: You're right. The narrative against proponents of natural immunity has been some serious horseshit. It's always been conventional medical wisdom that contracting and then recovering from something is the gold standard of immunity going forward. But.. to play devils advocate here.. there are a lot of people who think they have natural immunity, and probably don't. I can't count the number of times I've heard someone claim they had covid in spring 2020 because they had the sniffles or felt a tingle in their jimmies. "yeah I was probably like one of the first cases" "oh really?" "yeah I felt under the weather back in March of 2020" "did you get tested?" "no, but it was probably covid" Who cares? That's their risk to take.
HeloDude Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pooter said: You're right. The narrative against proponents of natural immunity has been some serious horseshit. It's always been conventional medical wisdom that contracting and then recovering from something is the gold standard of immunity going forward. “Always”? Really? I’m raising the BS flag here—the medical community that the far left loves to quote has pretty much been all about vaccines and masks and typically says little about natural immunity, especially if someone who has had covid doesn’t want to get the shot and/or wear a mask. The DoD doesn’t care if you’ve had a documented case of covid, you’re still getting the shot whether you like it or not. That being said, I don’t feel bad for those facing discharges for refusing to get the shot (after all, it is the military and we do what we’re told)…but let’s not pretend then that those members who have had covid are somehow less protected than those who have gotten a shot 9 months ago. Edited to add: Yes, you said that the narrative has been horseshit…but yet how many pro-vaccine and mask people have been saying that if you don’t want the vaccine and/or wear a mask that you’re “selfish and anti-science”? If Fauci and the other “medical experts” want to start over by admitting to the American people how they’ve been wrong several times, why they were wrong, and publicly say how others have been right (see above), then perhaps they could regain some credibility. But they won’t. Edited January 20, 2022 by HeloDude
Pooter Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said: Who cares? That's their risk to take. Except that if you are operating on incorrect assumptions, you are likely behaving in a way that exposes yourself and others to increased risk. 2 2
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