drewpey Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Guardian said: People keep saying this. But I haven’t heard one suggestion that is different than what he did. Really. I haven’t heard another suggestion as to how it could have been better or different with statements as to how they know it would have been better. Please, tell me,what could have been done better when the entire Democratic Party was wrapped up in Russia, calling trump a xenophobic and still to this day have no better suggestions. You guys ever have a bad sortie where a lot of folks died, and in debrief you looked back on the plan and said "welp...not much else we could have done. we pretty much nailed it."? Yeah me neither. It's amazing to see some of the best tactical minds I've met suddenly go blind when it comes to identifying DFPs, root causes, contributing factors and coming up with instructional fixes when it comes to politics. 3
Prozac Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, Seadogs said: Commander and Chief. Really dude? 2
Sua Sponte Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Seadogs said: This place is turning into r/Politics. It is starting to get really annoying and childish to see so many disparage our Commander and Chief. You all should exit the military. Y'all would be a perfect fit for Vox writing their opinion columns. Maybe your Commander-In-Chief, but some of us have that coveted DD-214 and left the dumpster fire known as the USAF years ago. Edited November 9, 2020 by Sua Sponte 2 1
Lord Ratner Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Waingro said: It's looking like he'll come away with 306 electoral votes, more than Trump won with in 2016. Which Kellyanne Conway at the time called a landslide and a blowout. You're right about the shifting demographics. Democrats should be concerned, especially in places like Florida. I think there are some weak areas for the GOP too, that they should look to shore up. Arizona was a surprise, and Texas was closer than it had any reason to be. She was wrong, as usual. Both Trump and Biden barely won their elections. Agreed.
Lord Ratner Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Homestar said: All Trump had to do was have a semi-competent response to COVID-19. He couldn’t even manage semi-competent. Who did? To claim that anyone's response can be graded thus far is premature. Europe is falling apart again. His response can't be bad if none of them were good. As with most things, if he could just keep his mouth shut and act like a president, his response wouldn't be discernable from any other 1
Homestar Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: As with most things, if he could just keep his mouth shut and act like a president, his response wouldn't be discernable from any other That’s my point. He couldn’t manage the barest minimum of leadership on the issue. Because he isn’t a leader. He’s a fraud and a con. Always has been. Always will be. Good riddance to bad rubbish. 1 1
Lord Ratner Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Homestar said: That’s my point. He couldn’t manage the barest minimum of leadership on the issue. Because he isn’t a leader. He’s a fraud and a con. Always has been. Always will be. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yeah, you just have to realize that he was also hitting a grand slam on conservative policy. History will tell which was more important. Agreed otherwise
di1630 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 The same people who were miserable behind their keyboards for 4 years with TDS - Trump derangement Syndrome will soon be the same miserable victims with BDS - Biden Disappointment Syndrome.If the GOP keeps the senate, the dem infighting will be fun to watch. Very few campaign promises met, sets up the right for gains in 2024. The beta males and 2/10 feminists who were calling us all (on the right) racists and sexists will be miserable....still. And now we don’t have to hear about BLM or other statistically retarded causes for a while.The blue wave never happened. Not a bad election.Cheer up, it could be Hillary’s second term. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app 2
Homestar Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: Yeah, you just have to realize that he was also hitting a grand slam on conservative policy. History will tell which was more important. Agreed otherwise Indeed, you are right. 3 SCOTUS noms will ensure his “conservative” legacy for a generation.
ViperMan Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, di1630 said: The same people who were miserable behind their keyboards for 4 years with TDS - Trump derangement Syndrome will soon be the same miserable victims with BDS - Biden Disappointment Syndrome. If the GOP keeps the senate, the dem infighting will be fun to watch. Very few campaign promises met, sets up the right for gains in 2024. The beta males and 2/10 feminists who were calling us all (on the right) racists and sexists will be miserable....still. And now we don’t have to hear about BLM or other statistically retarded causes for a while. The blue wave never happened. Not a bad election. Cheer up, it could be Hillary’s second term. My sentiments exactly.
dream big Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Negatory said: This letter from GWB is the type of presidential character that I cant imagine Trump having. And I’m looking forward to hopefully seeing more of it. https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the-center/newsroom/press-releases/2020/11/president-george-w-bush-statement-joe-biden.html You won’t from Biden nor Kamala, sorry to break it to you. But yes, even as a hard Trump fan I do miss the civility in politics and sometimes cringe when Trump goes off on Twitter or whatever else. 1
17D_guy Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Homestar said: Indeed, you are right. 3 SCOTUS noms will ensure his “conservative” legacy for a generation. I don't know. We keep selecting "conservative judges" and they keep doing things that are unexpected. Sure, they'll probably be more right leaning and less "legislative," but at the same time there's always that outlier case that can really change things. I have a feeling getting on SCOTUS is a lot like joining the Presidents Club. The weight of the office modifies, if not changes, some previously held beliefs. Kinda like Command in that way as well. Either way Senate will remain R (woo) so not too much damage will be done.
Clayton Bigsby Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, SurelySerious said: And the next begins, where we start walking back our foreign policy gains on China, Russia, and Iran, but the POTUS appears "more coherent." It's all about trade offs. You think the US made gains with Russia the past 4 years? Donnie did Vlad's bidding on the reg. Agreed on China and Iran, but so much could have been done with both of those, so much more effectively. Dude was all over the place. 2
slackline Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 You think the US made gains with Russia the past 4 years? Donnie did Vlad's bidding on the reg. Agreed on China and Iran, but so much could have been done with both of those, so much more effectively. Dude was all over the place.Agreed!CinC spoke out of both sides of his mouth on China until the Rona. Unfair trade out of one side, great leader, great country out of the other. His “hard line” with China could have been so much more effective, but I’ll take the little he did do. More than Obama by a far cry...Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
SurelySerious Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Clayton Bigsby said: You think the US made gains with Russia the past 4 years? Donnie did Vlad's bidding on the reg. Agreed on China and Iran, but so much could have been done with both of those, so much more effectively. Dude was all over the place. Maybe you don’t see as much as you think you do.
slackline Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 Maybe you don’t see as much as you think you do. Please, enlighten the group...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SurelySerious Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, slackline said: Please, enlighten the group... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Would you say our FP with respect to Russia has been more or less aggressive over the last 4 years? If you think less, have you spent time in EUCOM? Edit: I’ll give you the hint...EUCOM ops under Obama/Biden was more akin to wearing a straight jacket than the last 4 years. Same with China, who expanded in the ECS/SCS aggressively under Obama/Biden. And Iran and Syria/Russia, who walked all over that admin. Edited November 9, 2020 by SurelySerious
Sim Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/11/09/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-more-than-90-percent-effective-company/ Quote hat rate is well above the 50 percent effectiveness that the Food and Drug Administration requires for a coronavirus vaccine and far higher than the typical efficacy of the seasonal flu shot, which was only 29 percent effective in the 2018-2019 flu season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The results suggest Pfizer’s shot works almost as well as the measles vaccine, which is about 93 percent effective with one dose and roughly 97 percent effective with two doses, the CDC says. Operation Warp Speed is not a plan - according to Biden.
Guardian Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/11/09/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-more-than-90-percent-effective-company/ hat rate is well above the 50 percent effectiveness that the Food and Drug Administration requires for a coronavirus vaccine and far higher than the typical efficacy of the seasonal flu shot, which was only 29 percent effective in the 2018-2019 flu season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The results suggest Pfizer’s shot works almost as well as the measles vaccine, which is about 93 percent effective with one dose and roughly 97 percent effective with two doses, the CDC says. How is this possible? Was there a cabinet position created or did the HHS secretary take over? I was told that was the way to succeed against covid and yet I haven’t heard of those things occurring. (Sarcasm). Go ahead SLACKline. Insert your drivel.
spike Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: Who did? To claim that anyone's response can be graded thus far is premature. Europe is falling apart again. His response can't be bad if none of them were good. As with most things, if he could just keep his mouth shut and act like a president, his response wouldn't be discernable from any other Europe's response to second wave has now started to lower case rates again. I would say falling apart is a bad characterization. Also, most people over here don't conflate COVID response measures with politics. Everyone is rallied together to minimize the needless deaths on the susceptible populations.
Guardian Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 Dude. How nice would that be if we could separate covid from politics. For that matter anything from politics. 1
FLEA Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Clayton Bigsby said: You think the US made gains with Russia the past 4 years? Donnie did Vlad's bidding on the reg. Agreed on China and Iran, but so much could have been done with both of those, so much more effectively. Dude was all over the place. Why do we care about Russia? Wasn't the Cold War like 30 years ago? Remember when Obama called Russia a regional power and instantaneously overturned the reset in one remark? Cause I do.
Sim Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Guardian said: Dude. How nice would that be if we could separate covid from politics. For that matter anything from politics.
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