The Next President is...

[filthy_liar]

I'm going to utter some words.  I don't post on here often.  This liberal, "I'm a victim" crap that is running rampant on here is unbelievable.  I am so glad I am out of the military.  I worked with and was in command of the victim people.  They all, without exception, sucked at their job. Because they were victims, they didn't have to meet standards. Every single one of them, didn't have to meet standards. And I couldn't do anything about it, because the victims always have a medical issue that took all of my time.  Some of them were white, some were black, some were asian, some were probably eskimos or heaven forbid Canadians.  But the victim people always sucked at doing their jobs. And they drained my time for ridiculous crap.  Some clown in here posted their "racist" experience was when they were pulled over because they were driving the same car as a drug dealer. Not a car that I drove when I was paying my way through college, but a car with jacked up tires and a ridiculous paint job - same as the drug dealer.  Dude, or dudette, if that's the best you got for racism, you are mildly retarded, how about do it my way and not drive the same make model and ridiculous paint job car as the drug dealer. Easy stuff, easy decision.  Must be white privilege. There are about 2200 squadrons in the AF.  Chances that you got a racist commander: don't take those odds to vegas. 

[sixblades]

I'm going to utter some words.  I don't post on here often.  This liberal, "I'm a victim" crap that is running rampant on here is unbelievable.  I am so glad I am out of the military.  I worked with and was in command of the victim people.  They all, without exception, sucked at their job. Because they were victims, they didn't have to meet standards. Every single one of them, didn't have to meet standards. And I couldn't do anything about it, because the victims always have a medical issue that took all of my time.  Some of them were white, some were black, some were asian, some were probably eskimos or heaven forbid Canadians.  But the victim people always sucked at doing their jobs. And they drained my time for ridiculous crap.  Some clown in here posted their "racist" experience was when they were pulled over because they were driving the same car as a drug dealer. Not a car that I drove when I was paying my way through college, but a car with jacked up tires and a ridiculous paint job - same as the drug dealer.  Dude, or dudette, if that's the best you got for racism, you are mildly retarded, how about do it my way and not drive the same make model and ridiculous paint job car as the drug dealer. Easy stuff, easy decision.  Must be white privilege. There are about 2200 squadrons in the AF.  Chances that you got a racist commander: don't take those odds to vegas. 

Seems like something has got you riled up. You can find slackers and ROAD (retired on active duty) types of every political ideology, so I don’t see where you’re going in your rant about liberals and racism. Thanks for your service, glad you have other things to worry about now

[TurnHer4]

7 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

I'm going to utter some words.  I don't post on here often.  This liberal, "I'm a victim" crap that is running rampant on here is unbelievable.  I am so glad I am out of the military.  I worked with and was in command of the victim people.  They all, without exception, sucked at their job. Because they were victims, they didn't have to meet standards. Every single one of them, didn't have to meet standards. And I couldn't do anything about it, because the victims always have a medical issue that took all of my time.  Some of them were white, some were black, some were asian, some were probably eskimos or heaven forbid Canadians.  But the victim people always sucked at doing their jobs. And they drained my time for ridiculous crap.  Some clown in here posted their "racist" experience was when they were pulled over because they were driving the same car as a drug dealer. Not a car that I drove when I was paying my way through college, but a car with jacked up tires and a ridiculous paint job - same as the drug dealer.  Dude, or dudette, if that's the best you got for racism, you are mildly retarded, how about do it my way and not drive the same make model and ridiculous paint job car as the drug dealer. Easy stuff, easy decision.  Must be white privilege. There are about 2200 squadrons in the AF.  Chances that you got a racist commander: don't take those odds to vegas. 

Hahaha you seem upset, did I say something to "trigger" you? You even resorted to name calling lol. Not sure if your entire post was directed at me, but I'll address your points. Again, I am a black male, right leaning millennial, probably more right after the latest foolishness. I'm not a victim, never said I was. I'm doing damn well right now despite the things I've faced in my past. Doesn't mean I can't bring those things up in discussion. I'm not here to change anyone's mind as I've said before. I'm here to get a different perspective and get an idea of why different people see things the way they do, also to provide my own perspective for others to see. I appreciate all the viewpoints here, even the ones I don't agree with. I was damn good on AD. I have the strats, records, and reputation to prove it. Never DNIF, never pulled off a sortie for any reason. I think that had a lot to do with me getting picked up to go to UPT in the Guard. But I'm not here to dick measure. I know some people just like the ones you described, they come from all sorts of backgrounds. I too commanded (flight) some of them. Know what I did? Had a one on one, one sided discussion on how they needed to unfornicate themselves and pull their weight. If they couldn't, me and the gang picked up the slack. I don't have time for complaints and weakness. As far as my car (1985 Cutlass Supreme) it was trash when I found it. Put rally wheels, white letter racing tires, 2 chamber flow master exhaust, single color (green) paint job, not to mention what I did under the hood. It wasn't the way you described it as, it was a sick car in my opinion. And I worked hard to get it to where I wanted to be. Not the best I have for racism, thats just the example you chose to pull out (sts) and thats fine. Doesn't make what I said  not valid. I can write a book about the racist shit I've experienced in the south, you'd downplay that as well I'm guessing. Not going to, those experiences helped make me who I am. Made me more aware of my surroundings, where I can and can't go, and what I can and can't say. Also it made me open my mind to people that think differently than me. They don't know me, what happened in their life to make them see me the way they do? It helped me learn more about the world I was living in and how to live in it. My cutlass was stolen a few years ago. I was able to convince my wife to let me buy another one, and I'm in the middle of bringing it back to glory. I still get racially profiled in it, but that's apart of my life. Here's the thing, I should be able to drive whatever car I want without being pulled over and searched having done nothing wrong. I can get pulled over, unreasonably searched, and I have to comply under the threat of physical harm or death. That's not what freedom is my friend. I should be able to go where I want, when I want, in the car I want. If you're not ok with that, I don't have much for you and that's your opinion. I think your opinion may be that, that example is minuscule, and I agree. Doesn't mean that it's right. Just providing some perspective to the thread, that's all. I want there to be zero racist commanders, but I know that's not possible. I've learned to navigate that. I have many bros that think just like you. I tell all my black friends, I CANNOT and WILL NOT exile people that think the way you do. We need to hear what you have to say as well. Last week I got a bourbon and a cigar with a good friend of mine that has the same line of thinking as you. We talked about it like the grown ass men that we are, learned from each other, shook hands (yes, even during the "pandemic"), and made plans to continue the discussion down the road. That's why I don't post here much. I'd rather sip some Basil Hayden's and have a face to face discussion about these topics. But hey...I could be a mildly retarded clown. Think I've only been called that once, by my dad. Maybe that old bastard is right. Hope you're enjoying being out of the AF. If I run into you down the road, first bourbon is on me.

[Lord Ratner]

Yeah... The whole "he was asking for it" by driving a "drug dealer" car is a bit much. If drug dealers suddenly discover the amazing  heated and ventilated seats, near silent road noise, and two panel panoramic sunroof of the Hyundai Sonata, am I supposed change cars to protect myself from unjustified police intervention?

 

America absolutely, positively has a problem with police brutality and general policing philosophy. An analysis of the evidence suggests that this problem is not due to race, but the complex relationships in America between crime, race, poverty, and the history of racism make it easy to blame skin color.

 

But changing the automotive tastes of law-abiding citizens is not the answer.

[Homestar]

10 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

This liberal, "I'm a victim" crap that is running rampant on here is unbelievable.

I don't think victim "crap" runs rampant on here.  Sure, people complain about the promotion process, planning Christmas parties, and stuff like that, but that's just good, old-fashioned sport bitching.

 

10 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

There are about 2200 squadrons in the AF.  Chances that you got a racist commander: don't take those odds to vegas. 

Maybe you're just having a bad day, but I think you probably need to take a step back and take a look in the mirror.  Can we not have a reasonable discussion about how some people may have a different experience than you?  If this makes you defensive, it is probably because it touches a specific nerve inside you.  I mean, we all believe readily that some commanders play favorites.  Is it that much of a stretch to believe that other commanders play "least favorites"?

[GrndPndr]

1 hour ago, TurnHer4 said:

Hahaha you seem upset, did I say something to "trigger" you? You even resorted to name calling lol. Not sure if your entire post was directed at me, but I'll address your points. Again, I am a black male, right leaning millennial, probably more right after the latest foolishness. I'm not a victim, never said I was. I'm doing damn well right now despite the things I've faced in my past. Doesn't mean I can't bring those things up in discussion. I'm not here to change anyone's mind as I've said before. I'm here to get a different perspective and get an idea of why different people see things the way they do, also to provide my own perspective for others to see. I appreciate all the viewpoints here, even the ones I don't agree with. I was damn good on AD. I have the strats, records, and reputation to prove it. Never DNIF, never pulled off a sortie for any reason. I think that had a lot to do with me getting picked up to go to UPT in the Guard. But I'm not here to dick measure. I know some people just like the ones you described, they come from all sorts of backgrounds. I too commanded (flight) some of them. Know what I did? Had a one on one, one sided discussion on how they needed to unfornicate themselves and pull their weight. If they couldn't, me and the gang picked up the slack. I don't have time for complaints and weakness. As far as my car (1985 Cutlass Supreme) it was trash when I found it. Put rally wheels, white letter racing tires, 2 chamber flow master exhaust, single color (green) paint job, not to mention what I did under the hood. It wasn't the way you described it as, it was a sick car in my opinion. And I worked hard to get it to where I wanted to be. Not the best I have for racism, thats just the example you chose to pull out (sts) and thats fine. Doesn't make what I said  not valid. I can write a book about the racist shit I've experienced in the south, you'd downplay that as well I'm guessing. Not going to, those experiences helped make me who I am. Made me more aware of my surroundings, where I can and can't go, and what I can and can't say. Also it made me open my mind to people that think differently than me. They don't know me, what happened in their life to make them see me the way they do? It helped me learn more about the world I was living in and how to live in it. My cutlass was stolen a few years ago. I was able to convince my wife to let me buy another one, and I'm in the middle of bringing it back to glory. I still get racially profiled in it, but that's apart of my life. Here's the thing, I should be able to drive whatever car I want without being pulled over and searched having done nothing wrong. I can get pulled over, unreasonably searched, and I have to comply under the threat of physical harm or death. That's not what freedom is my friend. I should be able to go where I want, when I want, in the car I want. If you're not ok with that, I don't have much for you and that's your opinion. I think your opinion may be that, that example is minuscule, and I agree. Doesn't mean that it's right. Just providing some perspective to the thread, that's all. I want there to be zero racist commanders, but I know that's not possible. I've learned to navigate that. I have many bros that think just like you. I tell all my black friends, I CANNOT and WILL NOT exile people that think the way you do. We need to hear what you have to say as well. Last week I got a bourbon and a cigar with a good friend of mine that has the same line of thinking as you. We talked about it like the grown ass men that we are, learned from each other, shook hands (yes, even during the "pandemic"), and made plans to continue the discussion down the road. That's why I don't post here much. I'd rather sip some Basil Hayden's and have a face to face discussion about these topics. But hey...I could be a mildly retarded clown. Think I've only been called that once, by my dad. Maybe that old bastard is right. Hope you're enjoying being out of the AF. If I run into you down the road, first bourbon is on me.

Sometimes, one just needs a carriage return.

On a separate note, "unfornicate" is not a real word, but passes muster here, as we like alternate ways of saying things.

[Sua Sponte]

10 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

I'm going to utter some words.  I don't post on here often.  This liberal, "I'm a victim" crap that is running rampant on here is unbelievable.  I am so glad I am out of the military.  I worked with and was in command of the victim people.  They all, without exception, sucked at their job. Because they were victims, they didn't have to meet standards. Every single one of them, didn't have to meet standards. And I couldn't do anything about it, because the victims always have a medical issue that took all of my time.  Some of them were white, some were black, some were asian, some were probably eskimos or heaven forbid Canadians.  But the victim people always sucked at doing their jobs. And they drained my time for ridiculous crap.  Some clown in here posted their "racist" experience was when they were pulled over because they were driving the same car as a drug dealer. Not a car that I drove when I was paying my way through college, but a car with jacked up tires and a ridiculous paint job - same as the drug dealer.  Dude, or dudette, if that's the best you got for racism, you are mildly retarded, how about do it my way and not drive the same make model and ridiculous paint job car as the drug dealer. Easy stuff, easy decision.  Must be white privilege. There are about 2200 squadrons in the AF.  Chances that you got a racist commander: don't take those odds to vegas. 

I’m a victim of your poor grammar, JFC.

[Waingro]

On 10/8/2020 at 12:21 AM, filthy_liar said:

 I am so glad I am out of the military...

I'm glad we can agree on at least one thing. 

[Guardian]

He’s saying that he’s tired of the liberal mind set. The one that creates lazy, self interested, victim hood, virtue signaling, making up facts, rioting when I don’t get my way and call it a protest , everything must be equal but I need to be more important than most everyone else type mentality.

Same kind of mentality found in today’s feminism also.

Being a CC ain’t what it used to be because of people like that.

Thanks for your post. Hope you feel better.

[brickhistory]

Not quite as bad as forgetting, you know, The Thing...but then Romney is a pretty forgettable character.

 

 

[slackline]

Not quite as bad as forgetting, you know, The Thing...but then Romney is a pretty forgettable character.
 
 

Haha


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[brabus]

He also forgot he was running for president today. Not intending this to be a loaded question, but aren’t Biden supporters worried about his mental capability to hold this office for at least 4 years? Everyone misspeaks, but there’s a long line of clear evidence that Biden’s memory is failing and he gets confused pretty easily for someone who could be the leader of the U.S. Is this really not a problem in peoples’ minds?

[DosXX]

Oh yeah, plenty wrong with him... Just less bad than Trump's egotistic impulses, divisive rhetoric, policy positions, and cabinet appointees. You'll find very few people who are truly Biden supporters in the literal sense of the word, especially on here. I'll likely vote republican if he runs again in 4 years (so long as it's not someone like Roy Moore). 

[Seadogs]

On 10/7/2020 at 9:25 PM, Sua Sponte said:

The fly is Pence’s one black friend.

Nice to see who are the racists on this forum.

[Tank]

12 hours ago, brabus said:

He also forgot he was running for president today. Not intending this to be a loaded question, but aren’t Biden supporters worried about his mental capability to hold this office for at least 4 years? Everyone misspeaks, but there’s a long line of clear evidence that Biden’s memory is failing and he gets confused pretty easily for someone who could be the leader of the U.S. Is this really not a problem in peoples’ minds?

Maybe this is why Pelosi is introducing the 25th Amendment.  

If Trump wins, it’s another way to stick it to him.  If Biden wins, it’s a way to oust him because of his mental status.  

Either way, it’s a win for Pelosi!

[GrndPndr]

180 years is a long time...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1340436/Joe-Biden-news-auto-cue-blunder-video-US-President-election-latest-Democrats-update?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain#t=7s

[xaarman]

12 hours ago, brabus said:

He also forgot he was running for president today. Not intending this to be a loaded question, but aren’t Biden supporters worried about his mental capability to hold this office for at least 4 years? Everyone misspeaks, but there’s a long line of clear evidence that Biden’s memory is failing and he gets confused pretty easily for someone who could be the leader of the U.S. Is this really not a problem in peoples’ minds?

It's mostly right wing pundits latching onto single liners without context. He's had a life long challenge with speech and its effects:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and

If one doesn't want to vote for Biden, fine... but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

[brickhistory]

24 minutes ago, xaarman said:

It's mostly right wing pundits latching onto single liners without context. He's had a life long challenge with speech and its effects:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and

If one doesn't want to vote for Biden, fine... but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

As well as a life-long bromance with Neil Kinnock as well.  Just sayin'...

 

As to positions or policy, what are Biden's positions or policies?  His "you'll find out when the election's over"schtick seems to be aided and abetted by the liberal media since they don't pursue these evasions, but rational voters do seem to want to know what they are signing up for.

Except for the "anybody but Trump" voters.  It could be Satan Hitler and they'll happily pull the lever.

As I did against Hillary in 2016.

[FLEA]

2 hours ago, xaarman said:

It's mostly right wing pundits latching onto single liners without context. He's had a life long challenge with speech and its effects:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and

If one doesn't want to vote for Biden, fine... but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

Wait what?

[FLEA]

2 hours ago, brickhistory said:

As well as a life-long bromance with Neil Kinnock as well.  Just sayin'...

 

As to positions or policy, what are Biden's positions or policies?  His "you'll find out when the election's over"schtick seems to be aided and abetted by the liberal media since they don't pursue these evasions, but rational voters do seem to want to know what they are signing up for.

Except for the "anybody but Trump" voters.  It could be Satan Hitler and they'll happily pull the lever.

As I did against Hillary in 2016.

You don't deserve to know!

[GrndPndr]

3 hours ago, xaarman said:

It's mostly right wing pundits latching onto single liners without context. He's had a life long challenge with speech and its effects:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and

If one doesn't want to vote for Biden, fine... but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

We have a guy who can stand up and talk contemporaneously for two hours, and then we have a guy who can't even come close to doing that.  One is a confidence builder - and one is not.

[Prozac]

17 minutes ago, GrndPndr said:

We have a guy who can stand up and talk contemporaneously for two hours, and then we have a guy who can't even come close to doing that.  One is a confidence builder - and one is not.

Yeah, very confidence inspiring...

[Lord Ratner]

5 hours ago, xaarman said:

It's mostly right wing pundits latching onto single liners without context. He's had a life long challenge with speech and its effects:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and

If one doesn't want to vote for Biden, fine... but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

Calling bullshit on this one. A candidate using a teleprompter *during interviews* is mind blowing. If a Republican candidate made even a fraction as many gaffes, you'd never hear the end of it. Oh wait, that's exactly what happened with W. Bush. Does anyone really think Bush was in worse mental shape then as Biden is now? The coverage sure indicates otherwise.

 

He's always been a moron. Now he's a moron who can't think straight. If Trump had any brains, which he probably doesn't, he would just let Biden talk for the entire 90 minute debate. Instead he interrupted for the entire debate, protecting Joe from his greatest weakness: talking.

[brabus]

8 hours ago, xaarman said:

but don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

Pk miss. The evidence is overwhelming, certainly enough to question his mental capability to hold such an office. Not saying he “for sure” doesn’t have it, but it certainly has crossed the threshold to ask the question. 

[drewpey]

15 hours ago, xaarman said:

don't parrot talking points that have nothing to do with policy or positions.

I say keep it up.  It's a losing argument to convince undecided voters, but only one to shore up support amongst their base.  No undecided voter will look at the two geezers and think one is worse off than the other when it comes to being mentally there.  They are old men who talk like old men.