Carpetbagger Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Rough day for the SOF community. Here's a toast... If you are looking for a way to honor their sacrifice, please consider making a donation to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF). For those of you not familiar, SOWF provides scholarships for the children of special operators killed in combat or training. They are a well respected charity within the SOF community. "2" Phenomenal organization. To those that man the castle walls who gave their lives today... :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I got word that 2 PJs and one CCT were among those killed. Here's a toast... TSgt John Brown and his family are in my thoughts and prayers tonight. Edited August 7, 2011 by stract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Rough day for the SOF community. Here's a toast... If you are looking for a way to honor their sacrifice, please consider making a donation to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF). For those of you not familiar, SOWF provides scholarships for the children of special operators killed in combat or training. They are a well respected charity within the SOF community. Thanks for the link. Donation sent. One cannot give enough thanks to those who have given all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 To jump on that bandwagon, TOML provides scholarships for the children of Rescue personnel killed in combat/training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbitcid Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Such a horrific loss... Our prayers go out to their families and their fellow warriors. But I have a question... Why would we put that many high value assets on a single helicopter into a hot LZ? Placing a huge number of SEAL team 6 on board one aircraft seems like a disaster waiting to happen... Are they short on helos or is there an attempt to reduce footprint? I sure hope not... At any rate - salute to the finest warriors ever to grace our great nation. They will be missed... 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) But I have a question... Why would we put that many high value assets on a single helicopter into a hot LZ? Placing a huge number of SEAL team 6 on board one aircraft seems like a disaster waiting to happen... Are they short on helos or is there an attempt to reduce footprint? I sure hope not... Not the place dude. Edited August 7, 2011 by backseatdriver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Not the place dude. +1 hobbitcid, do I have to repeat myself? Leave the tactics and speculation aside and use those brain bites to donate to the SOWF. Edited August 7, 2011 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Goddammit! This breaks heart. God Bless their families. Valhalla gains some truly remarkable warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDiggler Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Rest easy bros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevileng1 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 To those all those aboard. May peace find their families as they go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Dan Zerbe was the other PJ onboard. Dan was a great dude, I was stationed with him at Moody. A Toast... http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/08/york_county_soldier_among_thos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The Rescue world will miss Dan and John. A toast for all lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy2181 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 http://www.wjla.com/pictures/2011/08/photos-of-the-fallen-30-americans-shot-down-in-afghanistan-/aaron-carson-vaughn-6217-451.html Just some of the fallen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Taliban Responsible for Attack- Killed Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) The 10 year old son of the pilot made a CNN iReport. He wanted everyone to know what his dad looked like. Short, to the point, and heart wrenching. Accompanying story by CNN on the response. Edited August 11, 2011 by Vertigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Taliban Responsible for Attack- Killed Case closed. AP Article Military killed Taliban who downed US helicopter By LOLITA C. BALDOR - Associated Press, PAULINE JELINEK - Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) — International forces killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for shooting down a U.S. helicopter and killing 38 U.S. and Afghan forces over the weekend, but they are still seeking the top insurgent leader they were going after in Saturday's mission, the top American commander in Afghanistan said Wednesday. Marine Corps Gen. John Allen told a Pentagon news conference that an F-16 airstrike Monday took out fewer than 10 insurgents involved in the attack on the Chinook helicopter. In a separate statement Wednesday, the military said the Monday strike killed Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah and the insurgent who fired the rocket-propelled grenade at the helicopter. The military said intelligence gained on the ground provided a high degree of confidence that the insurgent who fired the grenade was the person killed. It did not provide further details. Allen defended the decision to send in the Chinook loaded with special operations forces to pursue insurgents escaping from the weekend firefight with Army Rangers in a dangerous region of Wardak province of eastern Afghanistan. "We've run more than a couple of thousand of these night operations over the last year, and this is the only occasion where this has occurred," said Allen. "The fact that we lost this aircraft is not ... a decision point as to whether we'll use this aircraft in the future. It's not uncommon at all to use this aircraft on our special missions." While officials believe the helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade, Allen said the military's investigation into the crash will also review whether small arms fire or other causes contributed to the crash. Questions remain about why the troops were called in to aid other U.S. combatants engaged in a firefight, what they knew about the situation on the ground and what role the flight path or altitude may have played in the disastrous crash. Allen and other officials would not discuss the details of the probe, but it no doubt will include a look at the insurgent threat and the instructions given to the special operations team that crowded into a big Chinook helicopter as it raced to assist other U.S. forces. According to officials, the team included 17 SEALs, five Navy special operations troops who support the SEALs, three Air Force airmen, a five-member Army air crew and a military dog, along with seven Afghan commandos and an Afghan interpreter. Gen. James Mattis, head of U.S. Central Command, appointed Army Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Colt to lead the investigation. Colt is deputy commander of the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky. The investigation comes as the remains of the troops killed in the crash were returned Tuesday in an operation shrouded in secrecy by a Defense Department that has refused so far to release the names of the fallen and denied media coverage of the arrival at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. Two C-17 aircraft carrying the remains were met by President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, and a number of other military leaders. The investigation will review a number of basic crash questions, which will probably rule out such factors as the weather, terrain and mechanical issues, since military officials believe the helicopter was shot down. It also will look at the flight of the Chinook as it moved into the fighting zone. Chinooks are heavy cargo helicopters that do not have the agility of smaller, more maneuverable aircraft. Meanwhile, the Pentagon said Wednesday that it will release the names of the troops killed — after days of debate and delay. The release had been in question because the dead were mostly covert special operations forces from the Navy and Air Force. Though some of their names had been made public by loved ones, the Special Operations Command asked the Pentagon not to release them, arguing it was a security risk. Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said Wednesday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta considered the issue and decided to release the names. Lapan said the names should be made public within 24 hours. Obama and other officials at Dover boarded the two C-17 aircraft to pay tribute to the fallen troops and then watched as 30 transfer cases draped in American flags and eight draped in Afghan flags were taken off the planes. There were several additional transfer cases on the planes, also carrying unidentified remains from the crash. Anybody know why we brought the fallen Afghan troops back to the States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls0912 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Anybody know why we brought the fallen Afghan troops back to the States? They were unable to identify each individual troop, so they brought them all back. Dover will do the identification and then the Afghan troops will be taken back to Afghanistan for burial. I flew one of the C-17s back to Dover, and it was the hardest mission I have ever done. To our comrades in arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Taliban who downed helo killed in airstrike If you ain't Spectre... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The F-16s dropped GBU-38 and GBU-54 bombs, and the Spectre fired its 105mm and 40mm cannons. The Apaches attacked insurgents with 30mm cannons. The two men were killed while trying to flee the country. Troops tracked the men into a wooded area of the Chak district of Wardak province. The F-16 then dropped the bomb, killing Mohibullah, the shooter and several others. Kill them all, it'll be a lesson to the others. Technique only. Burn in hell motherfuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Hopefully this signals a switch from COIN to Offensive Counter-Terrorism so we can get the fuck out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I think we were moving in that direction anyways with the draw downs. Could Joe Biden be right on a foreign policy decision? That doesn't seem possible... Anyways, WRT the guys who shot at our boys, f em and I hope they're burin' in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Hopefully this signals a switch from COIN to Offensive Counter-Terrorism so we can get the fuck out of there. Concur! Enough digging wells and building girls schools; good on the dudes doing PRT duty, but COIN has not and will not win the fight alone (maybe ever). Past time to loosen the leash and focus on 'kill' instead of 'capture.' to the fallen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Another push for SOWF. They are going to offer scholarships to children of ALL of the US guys that were killed in the crash (meaning the helo crew as well). Please consider donating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Burn in hell mother######ers. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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