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Back in the Good Ole Days, we were allowed to fly on the weekends during SOS. My squadron sent two jets to Maxwell for one of the middle weekends and I got 2 BFM sorties each on Saturday and Sunday, with the RON at Eglin to hit the Destin beaches Saturday night. It made SOS much more palatable.

The man I am today was forged by my time in SOS.

Ugh, rather have the 200 lbs of gas...

Brabus/Azimuth: Yes, I understand that. There are plenty of ways to get specific pilot (and nav) communities more flying experience, using dual-qualification. And to save resources at the same time. As with anything complex in flying, it isn't a "one size fits all". But because it will not work in some scenarios does not mean one should throw out the baby with the bathwater.

In the Navy, as an O-3 you'd more than likely do what's called a disassociated sea tour. It's where you're job is to deploy with an aircraft carrier to be a shooter or some other position that requires a pilot to fill but isn't flying. Also, about half the student pilots track helos. If you want to fly rotary-wing, you'll have a higher chance of doing it in the Navy vs the AF.

SOS is all about how much work you're willing to put into it. That being said, my SOS comprised of flipping feverishly through quizlet cards for a few hours before taking each of the three tests, while I was deployed...worst few hours of my life! ACSC in-correspondence is making me take a better look at the numbers for O-4 vs O-5 retirement.

Nerd.

SOS, as it is constructed today, is a value added course. The material is good, but more importantly, since they changed the way the cadre are selected, the underlying tone for the program is greatly improved. Zero sarcasm. Pilots love to think they are above learning leadership from books and workshops, but this thread has countless examples of how shitty pilots often are at leadership. I hung out with a bunch of people my age, drank a lot, worked bankers' hours having conversations about the AF with people from different backgrounds, spent my weekends fishing in the morning and drinking on crab island till sundown, got to speak to academic power-houses in the field of leadership theory, and all while getting a break from the desk work and sims. I wish I could go every year. If SOS is the problem, I'm no longer interested in y'alls solution.

I'm already dual qual'd. In my MWS and my desk job.

I think that makes a lot more sense. You're still flying the same aircraft, just using it for a different mission set at different times...sounds like every multi-role fighter. It's worthwhile to point out that doing multiple mission types in DIFFERENT aircraft is a far more significant gap to jump than what you are talking about, even though it might seem not such a leap at first glance. Not saying you are implying that, but I'm sure there are those who might think that.

As a straight to UPT guy crossing in 3-4 yr is higher chance than a late rate guy, but the F-35 will eventually normalize just like the raptor. A lot of viper guys have been transitioning lately, and combined with b-courses graduating now, my guess is normalization is only a few years out. If your ultimate goal is F35, and you're fighting with a desire to fly a viper for a few years first, then I suggest try to get to the F35 now. But, the viper (as an example) is going to be around for a long time, so all is not lost if you don't go to the F35, now or ever. In the end it's the whole "a bird hand is worth two in the bushel" saying...rank your choices based on what you want long term, even if that means you might miss out on your "childhood dream jet" for a few years. I doubt a single dude graduating fat Amy b-course right now really has much, if any, heartburn about not flying a viper, eagle, etc.

10% rule applies especially given the source but wouldnt surprise me.

If they did this, with guaranteed O-5 (unless there are major negative indicators), no non-flying deployments, no additional duties, and $50k yr bonus, I'd stay in. So I won't be staying in.

you won't buy me a beer cause i'll be too rich rolling around in that airline money son

TC, for what it's worth I look at you the same way I look at Welsh's stint as CSAF. In the beginning, there was so much hope. As time went on, the hope never materialized. Welsh eventually sold out. You eventually stopped prioritizing the vendetta against shit leadership and, instead, started caring about website traffic and shitty writing for the sake of said traffic. What happened? Did you go all-in with a new job and need to outsource JQP? If so, realize that your brand would have been better served by stepping away rather than delegating it to people who don't quite get it.

It wouldn't be so painful if it wasn't in all caps. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=irregardless&amp=true&defid=1408380 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Tony Carr sold out as of late, clearly. His website is proof, but we've covered this ad nauseam. It's all about money and hits, so he doesn't care if it falls on deaf ears. I've been privy to know the inside facts of two of his stories and he just lobs mud on a wall trying to see what sticks. IRREGARDLESS, can we get back to sport bitching about how weak the nonners have been lately, continuing to close finance/Comm/fss early for training on thursday's instead of talking about Tony Carr? Unless Tony has an article about the keyboard warriors in those units... I'd enjoy another Nobel Prize worthy piece of investigative journalism from the man himself then. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Sad part is that he's diluted his brand by his own actions. He had an enviable pile of credibility: here, on his own site, social media, all of it. But then again, he wasn't the first down that road.

he sold out, sensationalism gets clicks...can't knock the hustle.

Wouldn't be the first time JQP jumped to a wrong conclusion and stuck with it.

I start to get sore and floppy after about 3