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  1. Clear? Hardly. I'd say the 6 cop cars in the middle of the road with lights on were more of a distraction. The portestors offered to move to another area and were denied... so yes it would still have been a problem. The Government man demanded an action by the peon. Comply or get squashed. Calls for criminal investigation is not the same as actually arresting a person. One persons rights are being violated, the other is idiots calling for his rights to be violated. If he is arrested, feel free to bring it up... you'll only be hurting your case that this is not a police state.
    3 points
  2. Those guys don't have hair on their ass if they buy anything less than 4, real glad to hear everyone got out ok.
    3 points
  3. I guess someone has to kick in the doors of people the NSA is listening to. With tanks. In a residential neighborhood. Hopefully the get the right house. Surely they'd never kick down the wrong door with one of these things, right? They certainly wouldn't shoot an innocent man's dog after raiding the wrong apartment. And even if they did kill the family dog after busting into the wrong house, they'd never handcuff the kids and sit them next to the dog's corpse. I guess you just have a lot more faith in our government than I do. After watching the IRS used as a weapon against political enemies, and after seeing the NSA turned on every American who uses the internet or a cell phone, I'm a little wary of pairing those agencies up with this kind of firepower and putting it all in Eric Holder's hands. Call me paranoid if you want, but the few isolated terrorist attacks don't warrant the kind of power we've turned over to the government.
    3 points
  4. Nothing but instructors, most dangerous flight crew there is. As for the number of Class A's I'm sure there will be a committee stood up to review the reasoning and then an FCIF or the like will be released telling us that we need to "go back to basics" etc. etc. then ops normal...
    2 points
  5. They have the right to assembly on a public sidewalk. They offered to relocate and were told to go home. If 2 people with signs were really a traffic hazard, don't you think 6 police cars only exacerbated the supposed hazard? And labeling behavior "SOP" doesn't make it right. Do you really think that is an appropriate way for cops to deal with citizens? And what law did they break?
    2 points
  6. If Christie is the GOP nominee in '16 than I am finding another party to vote for. There are so many better candidates, Ted Cruz or Rand Paul are two that come to mind...
    2 points
  7. The bottom line whether you are blocking access or not while exercising your right to free speech and right to assemble - if you refuse an order from the police, you can be arrested for interfering and refusal to obey a police officer. If the police, in their judgment think that you are causing distractions or making safety an issue, they have the ability to say "In my judgment, there was a hazard being created, I asked them to move and stop whatever they were doing. They refused to comply with my direction. I arrested them for failure to comply and for resisting arrest." Lots of power to the police. I think this video was posted before so my apologies. But standing in your front lawn and videoing the police doing something and they don't like it...you might get an all-night paid trip to the pokey. Right or wrong. Be sure to put it on your SF86 (although I cannot remember if it is only for convictions or includes arrests....) Edit: Damn thing will not let me imbed a you tube video. If'n your interested google you tube woman arrested videotaping police from front yard.
    1 point
  8. This may be the only time I've read Vertigo's post and agreed.
    1 point
  9. So there is not a single area in America where the first ammendment right to freedom of assembly applies once the local police decide the folks are an inconvenience. Interesting take.
    1 point
  10. What pathway were they blocking exactly, since they weren't charged with that? I know if the cops want to fuck with us, they'll find a "legal" way to fuck with us; it's the reality of having thousands of laws no one can possibly keep track of. Besides, the protestors offered to relocate somewhere acceptable and were told "go home or be arrested." And really man, resisting arrest for standing there with his hands out and not moving? And choking him out & dropping him to the ground? Appropriate?
    1 point
  11. And if no one is using that pathway, which was evident in the video as the officer said they were slowing vehicle traffic not pedestrian traffic, then this would not apply. I'm also pretty sure someone could walk around/through them. It didn't appear they were a large enough of a crowd or even that their intent was to prevent someone from using the pathway.
    1 point
  12. As would I in a theoretical world. That said, the only people I've seen with actual strategic mastery are those who've obtained tactical prowess first. And you simply can't do that without deploying. A lot.
    1 point
  13. God forbid we use the military to do that...
    1 point
  14. Guess that freedom of assembly thing only applies when the cops want it to.
    1 point
  15. These people are just idiots. All they had to do was clear the overpass b/c they were causing a traffic hazard to other people and nothing would have happened but instead they decided to push their limits with the police and were arrested for it. As for the throat choke takedown at the end, he was refusing to cooperate and that is a standard takedown when the police are dealing with a person refusing to cooperate. I am agree with the police in this aspect and I would hope nothing comes from this.
    1 point
  16. In no way, shape, or form do I like the current CINC, or his administration, but this is so beyond stupid. It's crap like this that makes the GOP look like they're searching for any reason to belittle the President, thus hurting their own cause. There could be any number of reasons for the way people were in there. Pure speculation that hits no nail or even the board the nail was going in to. Talk about pandering to crazy old white men... Keep this crap up, and you might as well hand the dems a third term in the WH. ETA: there's about a thousand legit reasons to critique the guy. Why go after a made up one? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    1 point
  17. Nice to have the NSA working for you.
    1 point
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