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it's because our leadership is...for lack of a better word...dumb. hope that helps!

I was going to comment on the latest convo but Stoleit had the most accurate info. From my memory anyway. But political nonsense popped up......

I like that "space flap" on the front, that'll pull all of the ladies.

I still don’t understand why we have apparently sat on our hands while “negotiating”. Hopefully our guys are still killing all appropriate islamists in their government on the downlow.

I appreciate hearing from those who critique actual policies and political positions of our elected representatives. It’s interesting to see such diverse takes from the same data, depending on one’s worldview. I’d argue that most of us are a little jaded from seeing the laws our elected officials pass and the bureaucrats who administer them, continuously do the expedient thing, rather than the correct for the long run thing. Then, when discussing the “other side”, tribalism with a touch of personal bias attached skews our view of things. I think most of us attempt to filter our bias to some degree. Personally the discussions here (at times) make me check my beliefs on geopolitical, financial, and social policy issues/topics. But having said that, I do appreciate a good street brawl on occasion about topics people feel passionate about even if I have no skin in the game.

Is this really the uniform (blues) for space force command? I hated the blues as they were in the late 1980s, but if these, shown here, were required I’d have gone awol. That looks like old school Star Trek reimagined by some light-in-the-loafer AA flight attendants.

I think Ratner is just butthurt someone wrote a post longer than his...

I deleted the last few posts—let’s at least try to keep this thread from becoming part of the back and forth political nonsense.

You guys need to get a room and do a dance off, like these guys. Red vs Blue.

It's actually funny. It's like you finished your time in the military and reverted to high school cliques. Keep going, you're really stellar examples of what TDS really is. Keep going, you've hurt my feelings, so don't stop now...😂

If we’re all “pathetic”, then it doesn’t sound like you want to be on this forum, unless I’m misunderstand you?

the repeated claims of 'TDS' by boot-lickers here, like a lot of claims by this admin, are complete projection...sad really

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXh8pwQkseS/?igsh=MThtN3ZzejZxNzUyMw== And that’s enough internet for today!

Let me Google that for you.

Don't get it? Miami lost in the Natty...damn good run they can be proud of. Indiana winning and burning crap in the parking lot on the other hand...

Speaking of hot garbage fires...

You're all pathetic with your quips vice substance. No wonder people have stopped engaging here, it's like talking to children.

I was thinking about responding, but if you can't even keep track of what you're saying, what are the odds you can follow what I'm saying?

Miami is 31-27 versus Florida, Last 10 meetings Miami is 8–2 Miami spent a record 68 weeks ranked #1 in the AP Poll Miami holds the all-time NCAA record for the longest consecutive home win streak. From 1985 to 1994, the Hurricanes won 58 Straight home games - that never happened in the swamp. And the matter of Five Natties versus three I guess we are even bluer bloods...😂 Counting down to another exciting year, will be interesting to see how UF rebuilds, certainly better than the hot garbage fire in Tallahassee.

Take it easy bro.

You asked if I feel better, if my views have changed, whether this is doing anything for me. Ridiculous questions aimed at dismissing rather than engaging. I'll answer anyway. No, my views haven’t changed. Neither have yours. I figured that out early. I’m not writing for you. I’m writing for the quiet majority on this board; the guys who value a clean debrief and are reading both sides without posting. They notice who brings data and who brings “probably for the best.” You’re capable of substance when you feel like it. But you didn’t touch the NIH numbers. You didn’t address the SAVE Act data. Not a word on China passing us in R&D or a trillion dollars in clean energy investment while we repeal every incentive we have. Instead you asked if I’m “happy” and compared me to a wife who needs to calm down. That’s not a debrief, it's an attempt at dismissing it as though you somehow are above the fray. Here’s what I think the lurkers actually see when they read your posts: red lines that move. You set them in 2016. Every time one gets crossed, you don’t re-evaluate the person crossing them; you redraw the line. You said it yourself: “another example of why Trump is worth the insanity.” Read that back. You’re conceding the insanity and arguing the tradeoff is worth it. So where’s the line you won’t move? What would actually be too far? Because if there isn’t one, then the cost-benefit framework you’re presenting isn’t analysis; it’s loyalty with a spreadsheet. And you’d never accept that framework from the other side. You talk about merit. Look at the cabinet. The SECDEF had zero defense leadership experience. The AG’s primary qualification was loyalty on television. The intelligence community picks were chosen for alignment, not expertise. If “merit” means “agrees with the boss,” that’s not meritocracy; it’s patronage with better branding. The people on this board who’ve spent careers watching what happens when loyalty replaces competence in leadership positions know exactly what that produces. ViperMan showed what happens when someone actually engages. He came in swinging, I came back with numbers, he came back with substance. We found common ground on multiple issues, and anyone who read it walked away better informed. That’s what this forum used to produce. I’m not interested in another round of rhetorical exits and concerned-tone deflections. Your methodology is built so you can’t be wrong; if the data challenges you, you redefine the question; if someone pushes back, you suggest they’re emotional. That’s a closed loop, and further debate inside it is a waste of bandwidth. The data of the last eighteen months speaks for itself for anyone willing to look at it without a pre-determined conclusion. I’ll leave it to the people reading this to decide which side of this exchange was running a clean debrief, and which side consistently (at least as of late) refuses to engage.

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