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Some of us do, but we can't talk about it here...

Sad there is not a single comment on this...probably why we are stuck in a do loop of our own dogma. If done properly this will change everything. Also under the radar is the fact that the Marines are integrating the same missile on their Cobras. Now small platforms can operate from austere forward dirt strips, grass fields, beaches...and have a strategic impact be striking targets at distance with very short notice and from non-traditional attack vectors. 200NM is just the start, follow-on cheap weapons have been tested out at 600NM. Add the ability to swarm and you can hold adversaries at risk at a MUCH lower exchange ratio.

Thanks! much better.

Don’t be so negative dog we uno reversed carded their blockade with our own even more dope blockade. It’s a genius move that gives us nothing but leverage and definitely isn’t gonna have a bunch of unintended consequences. I’m tired of people making this whole thing about Trump and his administration. If it feels incoherent and made up as we go that’s just because you’re too blinded by your libtard-ness to see the genius bigger picture

It's knows who the real boss is. 😃 Tough that we won't know what part cyber did play in the operation. I hope the leaders who were in while I still was saying you can win with just binary have shut up/retired. Cyber is an excellent force multiplier, but the technical burn that can occur using it offensively can be extremely high. I agree 100% it should be part of the campaign planning. If I was an RU or CN I'd have people all over Iran looking at critical infrastructure, major backbone providers, endpoints, etc., trying to find our TTPs and IOCs. I think, opinion only, China is the closest peer in that domain right now. I'm worried burning capes on this "limited operation" will be giving a lot away. I'll see if I can't muster up the time to post something about it in the dead cyber thread.

I'm sure the administration thought this through and has a plan...

Reached out the week of Easter and the guy at AFPC said the scheduler was on leave for a week. Think this week was when she'd get back so hopefully assignments start getting loaded again. Guy at AFPC made it sound like earliest would be a June PCS for a July start to training. Its kinda funny for the FY27 UFT board they pulled the language about when to expect an assignment given the train wreck this year has been.

I have zero SA on maritime law, so IDK if a ghost ship is legally treated the same as a chinese flagged oil tanker, or an Iranian flagged tanker etc. I'm more curious how we'd handle a tanker with oil purchased by China attempting to pass through the strait. We lifted sanctions for a month, chances are some countries bought oil that hasn't left port yet. If a tanker has legally purchased Chinese oil, do we have good options for dealing with that? I'm shocked you didn't point out how I assumed the gender of the aforementioned chinamen.

Getting through the strait IS a short trip...

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CENTCOM is saying different from ship trackers

Ok now let’s take your one inch deep analysis (close trade route -> gain leverage -> everything is awesome) and ask the obvious follow up questions: We don’t use much oil from the straight.. cool. So it shouldn’t affect our prices much right? Wrong. We live with something called the global economy and when supply of a commodity drops, effects of that percolate through the whole system. American oil companies will sell to the highest bidder just like anyone else so higher international demand will cause domestic prices to spike. Sorry, we don’t get to go on military adventures around the world and then suddenly pretend our own economy is isolationist. What happens when China is cut off from a huge portion of their oil imports? I guess in the world where we don’t consider follow on effects we’re just gonna ignore that. Are they just gonna sit back and take it? Are they going to put pressure on us to open the straight again? Are they going to raise their export prices to offset increased energy costs? Hmmm I wonder what country imports the most Chinese stuff….. Or What happens when (god forbid) one of our ships, now dicking around much closer to Iran than they were before, gets hit? Or hits a mine? Iran still has a very real missile, mine, and drone threat and now we’re basically just doing the navy version of seizing Kharg island—parking a bunch of juicy targets right off their coast. Again, the escalation ladder is sitting right in front of us and you guys are completely blind to it. What happens with the civilian population when the Iranian economy is fully destroyed by our blockade? I’m sure they’ll come running happily into the open arms of the country that’s doing it to them. It’s definitely not going to cause a rally around the flag effect much like trump’s tweet about killing their whole civilization. Any minute now the populace is going to rise up and turn the country into a flowering democracy…

Chinese Seamen?

Of course an AI would say Cyber is primary, tip of the spear.

We still kick ass when it comes to CSAR! 👍👍 For a laugh, I asked Copilot (the AI, not the guy in the right seat!) which is about as deep as we want to get on here... U.S. MILITARY LESSONS LEARNED – OPERATION EPIC FURY 1. BLUF Operation EPIC FURY validated U.S. dominance in joint high‑intensity warfare but highlighted critical vulnerabilities in missile defense capacity, force protection, logistics endurance, and partner integration under sustained saturation attacks. 2. OPERATIONAL OVERVIEW Start: 28 Feb 2026 Lead: U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) Mission: Destroy Iranian missile capability, naval forces, and defense industrial base to prevent power projection and nuclear breakout. Scope: Large‑scale joint, combined air–maritime–cyber campaign against a peer‑capable regional adversary. 3. KEY LESSONS LEARNED A. JOINT INTEGRATION WORKS—BUT REQUIRES SCALE Observation U.S. forces achieved rapid air superiority, effective SEAD, and joint fires synchronization across domains. Lesson Joint integration is a decisive advantage, but only when properly resourced for sustained operations, not short campaigns. F‑35, long‑range bombers, submarines, and ISR platforms dominated early phases. Implication Future conflicts with peer adversaries will require: Larger munitions stockpiles Faster reconstitution Broader distributed basing B. MISSILE AND DRONE SATURATION IS THE PRIMARY THREAT Observation Iran employed mass volleys of missiles and drones, overwhelming regional defenses despite high intercept rates. Lesson Interceptor inventories are finite Missile defense success is measured in resilience, not perfection Saturation attacks still produced casualties and infrastructure disruption Implication The U.S. must: Expand interceptor production Integrate regional air/missile defense (IBCS‑like systems) Harden bases and civilian infrastructure C. CYBER AND SPACE ARE NOW FIRST-MOVE DOMAINS Observation Cyber and space effects were employed before kinetic strikes, degrading enemy C2, sensors, and communications. Lesson Cyber is no longer a supporting arm—it is a primary maneuver element Pre-positioned access is decisive Implication Cyber operations must be planned at campaign level Requires persistent access, legal frameworks, and resilient U.S. cyber defenses D. LOGISTICS AND SUSTAINMENT LIMIT CAMPAIGN LENGTH Observation The operation consumed massive quantities of: Precision munitions Fuel ISR flight hours Human endurance resources Lesson The U.S. can strike faster than it can sustain at current industrial capacity. Implication Industrial surge capacity is now a combat enabler Future wars will be won by logistics endurance, not opening salvos E. FORCE PROTECTION REMAINS A VULNERABILITY Observation U.S. personnel suffered hundreds of wounded and multiple fatalities, primarily from missile attacks on regional bases. Lesson Even with air superiority, fixed bases are vulnerable. Implication Expand dispersal, deception, and hardened infrastructure Improve warning and sheltering procedures across AORs F. PARTNER NATIONS ARE BOTH STRENGTH AND LIABILITY Observation Gulf partners enabled access but suffered direct retaliation and infrastructure damage. Lesson Allies require integrated—not parallel—defense architectures. Implication Defense cooperation must include shared command-and-control, not just basing agreements 4. STRATEGIC TAKEAWAYS U.S. dominance is real—but not inexhaustible Mass matters again (munitions, interceptors, logistics) Cyber-first warfare is now normal Missile defense determines societal resilience Campaign durability—not shock—is the decisive variable 5. WAY AHEAD (RECOMMENDED ACTIONS) Expand munitions and interceptor production lines Integrate cyber deeply into joint campaign planning Invest in regional missile-defense integration Harden and disperse critical basing Reform industrial mobilization planning

Looks like the first ship has already ignored the blockade. Asian-American type.

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please. -

Well, for all you anti-Trump types, if you didn't shove that complete idiot Kamala Harris up against him in 2024, we might be in a different boat! Now, who exactly do you plan to run in 2028? Gavin Newsome? Pete Buttigieg? Harris again? Gretchen Whitmer? Alexandria Ocasio‑Cortez?!? 🤣🤣🤣 Don't blame us, blame yourselves for not taking the opportunity to present a viable candidate instead of complete nutbags that make our nutbags look half-sane! Chirp all you want about Trump, and he is a moron; but deep down you know damn well your side had nothing better!

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Again, where do you see anyone “supporting” any of the things you have previously highlighted (irrational plans, idiotic statements). I don’t support about 50% of the things he stands for (classic NY liberal with serious visions of grandeur - and no apparent real belief in anything except self) and about 75% of what he says (blasphemous at times, contradictory at times, repetitive usually, and narcissistic at times). That just shows you how evil and misguided the democratic platform is currently (in my opinion). Not every self proclaimed Christian (and def not atheists) will agree with me on my take on Trump as the significantly less smelly of two turds, as evidenced by hundreds of discussions on various topics here in BOs.

Seize any tanker and sell to Cuba (or other struggling Western hemisphere economies not currently US friendly) with conditions (disavow communism (e.g. Russia, China), free and open elections, US assistance in setting up new constitutional governance structure, etc …). Admittedly a bit quixotic, but give cash proceeds from oil to third world countries in need (food, humanitarian aid, etc). Bangladesh is still almost as poor, desperate, and underdeveloped as it was in the late 1960s.

Concur The offense defense tango continues, offense is throwing mass cheap systems and the challenge to defense is how to answer that. Probably an all of the above is the best feasible option Defensive systems, decoys, mobile low footprint systems, etc… It seems you need a force that is composed of opposite ends of a value spectrum, some high end exquisite systems to kick things off, medium systems level and a shit ton of cheap attrition tolerant mass to constantly throw at your opponent

I think air defense really shined. Now the question is how do you get a good mix of capabilities and cost. Patriot/THAAD are nice, but you can't afford to smack every shahed with one. Hardening critical infrastructure and capabilities to prevent easy kills by cheap systems is looking wise, as well.