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Except you're wrong. If that pilot had shut down both engines as soon as he saw someone running towards the plane, they would have spooled down dramatically, and while they probably would have hurt the guy, they wouldn't have chopped his fucking head off, and they absolutely, positively would not have been sucking him in towards the core. So instead of just getting close enough to let the vacuum pressure do the rest, he would have had to climb into the cowl, crawl forward, and shove his head into the (decelerating) spinning blade. Watch the video. You'll notice I didn't say "wait until he's sticking his head in the cowling before shutting down." And I have to ask again, exactly what fucking point are you making? You're just going to keep him running cuz "maybe we'll get to depart anyways?" I'll be explicit here, if you think that's a good idea, You have no business being an airline captain. Stick to the military where you don't have to worry about crazy shit like this. I swear some of you guys are so locked into the internet that you forget that being "technically right" is not the same thing as being right.

He's making the point that if the pilots had toggled the engines as soon as that guy approached the plane it would have made no difference given the time-span of this event. Those motors would still be spinning plenty fast enough to chop a skull. Hence him saying: "Engines don't exactly stop on a dime with shutdown." It has nothing to do with his attitude about the guy and more about recognition of physics. Stop trying blame pilots for things they can't control. They likely couldn't see anything until it was all over. If you've sat in a pilot's seat, you'd know that. You you this ignorant in real life, or are you just a Nav? Friggin' tourist

It always has been and will be the easy target to 'get after' instead of doing substantial reform.

Yeah, I was taken aback, said 2 star had been at a couple meetings, visited my boss to talk shop / bullshit a bit and seemed ok overall. I was surprised that a fighter guy would crap on it, LA posed and still poses no threat to the manned fighter mission. They operate in different roles now and really even during GWOT. When A-1s and AT-37s were introduced in Vietnam, they didn’t take missions from -105s, -4s, etc… same thing in GWOT and now.

My bad if that isn't AA specific. You all look the same if you're wearing a striped tie and taxiing at 8 knots. (I kid, I kid)

Haven't watched Capt Steve.

Possible stupid question, but is he wearing anything company-specific in those videos? Looked to me just like a generic captain outfit with white shirt, epaulettes, tie, and a fly safe lanyard, but I'm not smart on the details. And I would think AA would come down pretty hard on anyone wearing company-specific stuff postulating about random incidents, no?

That seems to be the consensus. Annoying if he's wearing company gear and talking about non-company stuff. SWA has its influencers, but they seem to keep it in their lane.

Not an AA guy but its interesting that his first flying-related video was only posted 9 months ago according to his youtube channel. Since then he's posted dozens and dozens of them and the India crash videos went particularly viral with views in the millions. Don't know his age but from the looks of it he is nearing mandatory retirement and is attempting a career pivot to old man internet aviation influencer/guru.

Is he they guy in the pilot uniform doing videos? If so, I don't watch just for that fact alone.

I've seen some pretty questionable "boots" in shoe clerk world. Some of these rules end up happening because we have asshats out there clearly abusing the intent of the regs in uggs or coyote brown air force ones. But I don't disagree with you that we are refocusing on stuff that absolutely doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and it has been a significant downward trend for quite a while.

What is the take from the AA bros on this Captain SteEveVe guy? He's taking some internets hate for his constant YouTube commentary on this Air India crash. Just retire already.

Pretty crazy. Lots of videos that confirm this view.

Not just enlisted… we seemed to finally be moving in the right direction away from queep, chiefiness, sock colors, and reflective belt police..now we are headed back in that direction but now under the guise of readiness and GPC. Boot height, really? Also in ranks inspections are an utter waste of time.

Just looked up the figures in Balkoski’s Omaha beach book. His research states, ”the invasion plan had assumed 600 Germans would initially resist the assault on Omaha Beach.” ”Instead of 600 defenders, the real number would be more like 1,100–and made up of troops the German high command rated in its highest combat category, meaning they were fully mobile and capable of launching large-scale attacks.” Intelligence had missed the redeployment in March of the 352nd Infantry Division to reinforce Omaha. Intel also declared only a single enemy battalion was posted in reserve behind Omaha, but with the redeployment of the 352nd, “that reinforcement number was increased to at least five.”

Such a wildly out of touch quote. Pretty sure the entire T-6 faip mafia would give their left nut to fly a weaponized version with 50% more horsepower

Thrust production (and the associated vacuum pressure in the intake) drops off very quickly without combustion, while inertia keeps the fans spinning for much longer. Besides, what point are you making? Fuck it, let him die? You think you're going to continue taxiing to the runway after they wipe his brains off the acoustic panels? Christ, are you this obnoxious in real life? 🤣😂 I know you're putting it out there with your user name, but still...

Engines don't exactly stop on a dime with shutdown.

Does this count as a kill?

A friendly reminder to any airline pilots here, if you look out the window and see someone approaching the plane when they shouldn't be, just shut the engines down. The passengers will survive the 30 seconds of darkness as you wait for the Apu to come online, and aside from saving a life, you may be saving a whole lot of people a whole lot of trauma from seeing something most people can't handle seeing.

Absolutely. I didn't see in the initial reports who was asking the question and who was denying touching the switches, I just assumed it was the fo denying it. But if it was the other way around, I have no difficulty imagining your scenario. Like I said, High context societies... It was always 99% that this was going to be pilot error

Either scenario plausible. Ego is an enemy and we should only fly rested. I can't believe the dumb risks I took flying tired. Without Gods grace I would be CFIT too.

Reverse your roles. FO was pilot flying and he queried the CA about the motors, who denied taking any action, despite the recorded events on the box saying each switch was cycled off then on. Having encountered enough Indian aircrews, I can readily imagine a senior CA denying any error. I can imagine a few senior CA I've flown with in the USA doing the same. Ego gets strong with some.

Here's my guess. First officer was a moron, or completely inexperienced. For whatever inexplicable reason, he moves the engine cutoff switches to cut off instead of whatever he was supposed to be doing. Recognizes it instantly and puts them back, but at that point the engines have already started to shut down. Captain asks him why he did that, he does the FNG thing/High-context-society thing and denies the fuck up.

I never would have guessed 550. When he asked what I guessed I did a wild out of A$$ number of 3000 at Omaha. I think in hindsight he may have been referring to only those on duty in the actual strong points. I just looked and I found a list of 37 strong points for Omaha Beach so I could see 550 as not beyond the realm of possibility. I guess it would all depend on what area was defined for the duty area by Ambrose or anyone else. I think the weather had most in Normandy thinking not happening today. From the German perspective they picked a helluva time to minimum man. I'm sure Eisenhower knew the Germans were blissfully unaware thanks to the codebreakers at Bletchley Park and the fact if they suspected anything was afoot the airways would have been burning up with radio traffic. I did pose the hypothetical question to our guide of what would have happened had Hitler not invaded Russia and he saw no-way we could have breached the Atlantic Wall given how deep they could have stacked their forces. The Russian Front certainly sucked up a whole lot of resources to say the least. From a practical perspective it takes a bit to get to Normandy. We took a train from Paris to Bayeux where our guide met us early in the morning and he dropped us off at Carentan in the evening to catch the train back to Paris. As mentioned most tours shut down in winter so summer has its advantages. It was 28 degrees and the wind off the channel was brisk so if you go in the winter plan accordingly. Any questions message me and I'll do my best to answer. P.S. to Uhhello you are spot on about Pointe Du Hoc.