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Anyone on the left want to address this? I read @17D_guy saying in the Iran thread that the Democratic party isn't going violently left...but most of us on ALL sides see it different and tend to agree with Mahar here. If your response is going to be ad hominin again Mahar, save it, we've heard that when y'all rejected Rogan. I'm a legit independent and I want a healthy system. Letting actual communists gain any power over one half of our political system is absolutely not allowable. Seriously, what is the plan for a healthy Democratic party? Where are your open mic debates on campuses? Where is the pride in being American? Where is the recognition that communism is, in fact, a horrible idea?

Sure. But I think it's more likely that we're in an environment where the American people want everything for nothing and there is no shortage of politicians willing to offer it. The failure to provide the impossible will keep ping ponging the party in power. Terrible execution, no argument there. But I think the DSA surge has more to do with what I said above. We're in the bad part of the cycle, and the politics are going to reflect that Sure, but I listed a lot of very good policy from the conservative perspective. Trump pairs it with unhinged social media posting and rampant lying. And familial corruption now. That'll drive voters away for sure, but again, not more than the unrealistic voter expectations. The flaw in the logic is that: @No One is trying to say Kamala would have been better. Trump may drive voters to the Democrats, but the response to that isn't to give crazy Democrats power earlier. Just like I wish the Republicans picked a better candidate (DeSantis), I wish the Democrats did too. But they didn't. We got two idiots, but with very different policy. And Trump's policy is overwhelmingly good. Everything else about him sucks. I don't care about hypothetical candidates. There wasn't a Clinton Democrat to vote for.

@Lord Ratner I get it that you think trump is the lesser of two evils but has it entered your calculus at any point that he's driving people TO the left, and the very people you're so worried about are gaining momentum precisely because of trump? He's prosecuting the least popular war in American history and has lower approval ratings than post-Katrina Bush. I'm not usually a big polls guy so I only bring it up to point out that when you torpedo your own side in historic fashion you drive popularity on the other side. Or is it just a wild coincidence that DSA candidates are suddenly gaining popularity and winning right as we go on the biggest neocon bender in a generation while also not addressing any of the kitchen table issues he was elected on? Seems like we're all really good at identifying the inevitable knee jerk reaction of the voting populace when the dems act crazy and hand republicans the win.. like that time they did insane woke race shaming, shoved trans down everyone's throats, subbed in Kamala at the last second, and tried to astroturf that she was "Brat" and "Joy." But can we be honest with ourselves and admit when the republicans are doing the same exact thing? I get it, you can hold your nose and look past the mean tweets, the AI jesus slop, the pornstars, the hundreds of pics with epstein, the personal enrichment from shilling shitcoins to your own voters, the sexual assault allegations, and the incoherent foreign policy merry-go-round because somehow to you it's better than the alternative. Thats your prerogative. But aren't those things exactly what's going to drive people to vote for the alternative?

I think the delay is literally people being lazy. My friend in another squadron in the OG told me his squadron set a deadline. Heard back from the DS today and this is what he said: "It'll most likely be a last minute tasker (within 2 weeks) so I would get all the needed documents and items knocked out now"

The irony of you calling me out for “tribalism” from a post where I was calling people out for that very thing is hilarious. Not to turn this into another political bitch fest thread on Baseops, but the only one being blinded by tribalism between us two is you. Yes, I am thankful every single day that Kamala Harris is not President. The Democrat party of today is an absolute disaster that is hell bent on destroying this country. Trump is a side show. A cluster fuck of a side show at times, I’ll give you that, and frankly it’s a show I’ve criticized many many times on this very website. It’s also one that the democrats are successfully weaponizing to elect and then enact their own disastrous candidates/policies. That I very much believe is a problem and a huge drawback to Trumpism. But to lecture on about who is bigger threat to this country when the democrats continue to trot out absolute batshit candidates and policies; yeah, sorry, it’s weak and it’s boring. I mean hell, Bill Maher came out and said his vote is in play this next cycle. That’s how far off in La La land the current Democrat party is. I’ll also add, my vote is always in play too. I’m a registered independent and thanks to the military I’ve lived in both deep blue and deep red states, and now willingly live in a purple to slightly blue state. In fact, the two senators from my state were both once legit centrist democrats that I also once voted for as a younger man. They of course are no longer that and trot out the same batshit party line as everyone else from the Democrat party these days. Frankly I don’t give two craps about what party you’re from if you actually have solid centrist to center right policy ideas that might actually make this country better. Both parties struggle at that in many ways, but the democrats are putting nobody forward that even comes close. Anyway, pointless and worthless internet rant is now over, but spare me the holier than though lecturing and crocodile tears of “BUT TRUMP!” I’ve stepped outside the political tribal bubble plenty of times in my life when I’ve gone to the ballot box. Back to regularly scheduled Iran cluster fuck, version 4.0 or later whatever we’re on.

States need to admin hold cops who are under investigation and not let them resign until the investigation is complete. They’ll resign, investigation stops, then they’ll get hired by a new department in the state.

This happened before in FL Not the BeeFish & Wildlife officer tases man pumping gas, sets him o...Far be it from me to second guess an officer of the law ... but I feel like this may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Apparently, if you're in the Admin, if a reporter asks a question, its probably best to refer the question to the White House twitter account for comment, lest you get fired for having an opinion or stand on a topic, especially if the topic involves a vanity project.

On the first point, both parties are in a civil war of sorts against the nuts. Progressives on the left, populists on the right. And the right is catching up to the left in the game of "defend your side no matter what." That's almost certainly because of Trump smashing all the old conservative value norms. But the crazy policies of the populists are nowhere near as damaging (by my political calculus) as the crazy policies of the progressives. One is very much worse. As far as institutions go, which ones do you believe the right/Trump is destroying? I can tell you which ones I disagree with or agree with. On the left, it's packing the Supreme Court, eliminating the electoral college, using federal law to trump states' rights, attacking the 2A, etc etc. you know... All that minor constitutional stuff. I find it funny how many people on the left love the TACO meme. It's really Trump-Always-Choses-The-Stock-Market. Personally I'd love to see a 50-75% market crash, but there's not much difference between my friends and family on the right and left as far as their reliance on the stock market for their personal wealth. Everyone with a 401k with an S&P or bond fund should be kissing his feet for "chickening out."

The fact these 2 sentences are right next to each other is hilarious. You think the DNC, who's actively campaigning against the progressive/left half of their candidates is being run by progressives? As a guy in the actual political shit right now, this is a ludicrous statement. Vilifying intuitions and norms that made our society possible and prosperous...Jesus Christ. The last 2 years have been a wrecking ball to that, but I guess you didn't mind those institutions and norms getting torched? Any way, we win this war yet? Oh nope, TACO TRUMP again.

Until the "thin blue line" bullshit stops none of this will. These cops just go to some other dept and get hired.

Indeed....even if they lose qualified immunity the govt steps in to pay. These people settled for $275K...I think the city got lucky.

I bet you're lots of fun at parties.

Back to Iran with Jim Mattis. Recorded in March but this is the first I've seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yrs7aMUi5A

Policy I like: Closing the border Attempting to end birthright citizenship Many, many pro-2A actions by the administration Tariffs (hate how he tried it, love that it's back on the table) H1B and other visa fees Maduro All anti-trans-normalization policy Deregulation Energy production, pipeline approval, drilling expansion Massive shift in nuclear energy policy Attacking racist admission policies at public colleges Judicial appointments (any conservative would have done this) Welfare work requirements Moving federal agencies out of DC Schedule F reform Reducing funding for planned parenthood Dismantling "climate-change" policy Waters of the US reform Support for Israel Abraham accords Fucking up Iran Even more That doesn't mean he's succeeded on these, but I don't think even you would claim Kamala would have been better for these policies, other than maybe nuclear energy. Obviously you don't agree with these policy preferences, so you don't agree with the vote. But you have to be literally retarded to be confused as to why someone who is conservative wouldn't prefer Kamala who is the enemy of conservative policy, simply because she lies, cheats, and steals in a more dignified manner. It used to be that the Democrats made excuses for the politicians they knew were lying to them and Republicans believed they had the honorable representatives. Now that seems to completely have flipped, and the liberals actually think their politicians are good people, and the conservatives are making the deals with the devil. Funny times

@17D_guy You just don't get it. None of what you say matters, because they did something everyone else liked by putting the bad Spanish speaking people in the funny camps down in Florida. You will never understand because we are men of integrity and honor. (If you can’t come in her…)

Well, isn't this the most corrupt shite - https://www.npr.org/2026/08/01/nx-s1-5912219/trump-truth-social-access-insider-trading "Starting Saturday, for a fee of up to $100,000 a month, trading firms can access "Truth API" to get a glimpse of the president's often market-moving announcements about economic policy and global affairs before the rest of the world." Won't even get into his crypto bullshit, literally stealing from his followers. "Kamala woulda been worse." lel

Actually got a chance to listen to his speech. I don't think it's as big a deal as I did before, however share @ClearedHot concerns.

Policy. lol You mean like….. -No new wars. -Consumer prices are going to come way down. -Energy costs will be cut by 50% in the first year. -The Russia-Ukraine War ended before taking office. -The national debt will be eliminated. -The Epstein files will be released. -You’ll get beautiful tremendous healthcare. -You”ll get a tariff check and a doge check. -Birthright citizenship will be ended via EO. The list goes on and on. All total BS. His “policy” is stupid vanity projects. That’s his primary focus. It’s what he likes and what he thinks will serve as his legacy. Dumb shit like his Qatari Force One, ballroom, botched reflecting pool, gilded Oval Office, UFC fights, etc. His “policy” is posting batshit memes into the wee hours of the morning, and then falling asleep at meetings. He’s alienated and betrayed our closest allies. He’s entangled us in yet another idiotic war in the Middle East and settled into a weekly routine of threatening war crimes and then TACO’ing. He’s ballooned the national debt, and calls “affordability” a made up Democrat hoax. Meanwhile, below is a highlight from today. His typical day spent golfing ….bragging about his unparalleled talent in a tournament at his own course. This is what’s important to him. Again, his give-a-shit meter is zero’d out. It’s as if he were testing just how ridiculous he can possibly get and still get away with it. And sure enough, you’re over here still like “….well, I really like his policies.” lol. Don the Con.

True on both accounts.

You mean the taxpayer pays millions

Qualified immunity needs to end in the other 48 states.

These clowns shoot the WRONG car...figure out they shot the wrong care and STILL keep the innocent people handcuffed and in custody. I hope they pay millions!

As an old guy who flew C-141’s and -17’s from 1987-2014, We used Mars Radio a lot. It was also entertaining listening to some of the other conversations as we flew endless hours during Desert Storm….