stract Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 You'd think there'd be some sort of failure indication in the cockpit (aural/light) in the case of engine failure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I feel bad for whoever gets fragged for this SIB. Not only do they lose a month+ of flying, but they have to listen to Raptor dudes refer to their jet in the 3rd person. ("And then, Raptor did....") 3 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Door drag? Seriously?Well I’m trying to get something out better than “f-22 pilot made a UPT student on the road to washout” mistake. Climbing away before gear up is something I learned in a prop retractable and every plane since.And if a combat loaded hog can lose an engine on takeoff and keep flying, a F-22 is really out of excuses on how this happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, di1630 said: Well I’m trying to get something out better than “f-22 pilot made a UPT student on the road to washout mistake. You have noticed the bar being slowly lowered over the last decade or so .... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 14 hours ago, M2 said: UPDATE from sources: "Info on the Raptor mishap at Fallon: The slide happened on takeoff. Appears to have been a left engine flameout when the pilot throttled up to take off. By the time he realized the engine was dead, he had already been airborne for a few seconds and raised the gear. The jet bounced for around 1500 feet, and then slide for about 5000 feet. They got it off the ground and on its landing gear last night, so the runway is clear. Chain is wanting it to be quiet still. It's very fresh obviously. But it's looking like the second engine failure on Elmo jets in a 7 day period." This would be consistent with what everyone who saw it thought was a low transition gone wrong. Still hard to believe it couldn’t fly away on one, it was a cool day and DA shouldn’t have been a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Ram said: I feel bad for whoever gets fragged for this SIB. Not only do they lose a month+ of flying, but they have to listen to Raptor dudes refer to their jet in the 3rd person. ("And then, Raptor did....") Hilarious, because it's true! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Sources make sense, again, flaps tied to gear and/or he didn’t have/use enough grunt to get it airborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Or you could say nothing and wait for the SIB. Rule #1...anyone...anyone?Here’s a real question: in a case like this where non-fatal, non-injury, no direct ties on this board, everything based on open source speculation and internet photos, I’ll bite....what’s the harm of discussing probable scenarios and causes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, di1630 said: Here’s a real question: in a case like this where non-fatal, non-injury, no direct ties on this board, everything based on open source speculation and internet photos, I’ll bite....what’s the harm of discussing probable scenarios and causes? Because Raptor will become self aware, travel back in time and try to kill your mom. 3 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahWeed Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, matmacwc said: ......or he didn’t have/use enough grunt to get it airborne. use enough? - I'll grant you that. If Mr. Left hand wasn't locked in the forward-most position, that may be a contributing factor. have enough? From what I've been told, if just one of those dino-burning monsters was full up, that lad had as many thrusties available as I used to start out every takeoff roll with in the might-mighty. Whether he opted to use them in a time appropriate manner may be the question 'o the day. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I was going to save the mil vs AB takeoff discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 hours ago, di1630 said: Here’s a real question: in a case like this where non-fatal, non-injury, no direct ties on this board, everything based on open source speculation and internet photos, I’ll bite....what’s the harm of discussing probable scenarios and causes? Let’s cut to the chase then. If he wasn’t Green Dot current, look no further. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, BFM this said: Let’s cut to the chase then. If he wasn’t Green Dot current, look no further. Nope. His cyber awareness training expired and the jet locked his account at a very inopportune moment. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, FourFans130 said: Nope. His cyber awareness training expired and the jet locked his account at a very inopportune moment. Then how’d he even sign for the jet?! I suspect the lack of use of his hand was the fear installed from SAPR training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Then how’d he even sign for the jet?! I suspect the lack of use of his hand was the fear installed from SAPR training. "Raptor, may I touch you on the throttle?" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 4:11 PM, Danger41 said: Because Raptor will become self aware, travel back in time and try to kill your mom. Sarah Connor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Because Raptor will become self aware, travel back in time and try to kill BQZips mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 His mom doesn’t let him come here anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Heard from a reliable source it went down as advertised, failed low transition. Jet may be a strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAg03 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Heard from a reliable source it went down as advertised, failed low transition. Jet may be a strike. Failed as in pilot failure, or did it have engine trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Supposed known problem child trying to show off, settled onto the deck attempting a low tranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Navy speak, must of tried a low approach and settled on the runway, or as a lot of us surmised, what happened. My favorite Navy speak briefing with Hornets, "We are going to bring our section to the break and bounce." WTF are you talking about? Edited May 20, 2018 by matmacwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, BolterKing said: Supposed known problem child trying to show off, settled onto the deck attempting a low tranny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Low tranny ..... giggety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Okay, so young guy question (check user name). What' the likely course of action for this? Like FEB, slap on the wrist, Q3, nothing? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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