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http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/donald-trump-james-mattis-defense-secretary

Christmas came early this year. Mattis is the next SECDEF (assuming he gets a waiver... but he has the blessing from McCain, so it's pretty much a done deal).

FWIW, I think a lot more prospective pilots will start eyeing AD with a guy like this at the helm. Not saying we'll see a surge in recruiting, but this guy makes people want to serve, and if he can clean up some of the queep, who knows.

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Happy to have Mattis taking the helm.  I hope he can inspire both our military and civilian leadership to return us to our warfighting roots.  One of my favorite Mattis-ism's below.

http://www.strifeblog.org/2013/05/07/with-rifle-and-bibliography-general-mattis-on-professional-reading/

"Going into Kuwait 12 years ago, I read (and reread) Rommel’s Papers (remember “Kampstaffel”?), Montgomery’s book (“Eyes Officers”…), “Grant Takes Command” (need for commanders to get along, “commanders’ relationships” being more important than “command relationships”), and some others. As a result, the enemy has paid when I had the opportunity to go against them, and I believe that many of my young guys lived because I didn’t waste their lives because I didn’t have the vision in my mind of how to destroy the enemy at least cost to our guys and to the innocents on the battlefields."

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My favorite Mattis quote speaks heavily to his philosophy:

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Mattis would be a really good choice.  However, I don't think you'll see a yuge (Trumpism) growth spurt in defense.  From my time in the same organization and others that worked around him, he's not much for red tape, inefficiency, and large staffs.  A lot of DCers could be looking elsewhere for a job.  And talk about someone that knows the world and the inhabitants.  In a way, making him Secretary of War (I kinda like the old name) sends the world a great message, and one of my favorite quotes of his, " I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all."

I mean think of it, when was the last time the persona of a SecDef sent chills down the spine of our adversaries?

Great choice, can't wait for the annoucement

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I'm actually unsure of the message we are sending the world.  Lemmie drop some info about the Korean perspective, courtesy DLI and a year doing ROKAF ACSC:

Obviously, the Koreans aren't thrilled about a Trump presidency.  They're certainly nervous, as most of their news about the US is translated almost directly from what CNN and the AP pump out (watching the news cycle hit here about 6.9-36 hours after it breaks in the US is interesting).  It's no surprise they think Trump a crass madman...that's what CNN told them.  Thanks, CNN.

So, after the Mattis announcement, I perused Korean media online.  The majority of the copy does indeed focus on Mattis' experience leading troops in the middle east.  However, this isn't necessarily seen as a positive here on the ROK, as local media generally view the Iraq war (and to a small degree, Afghanistan too) as a costly failure and huge strategic mistake.  (I'm not here to argue this point...I'm just telling you about the Korean perspective.)

The rest of the copy I've read describes Mattis as a general that's really respected by the US Military and by US Conservatives.  Again...this fact also carries positive and negative baggage.

I'd like to say that he's quoted well in Korean media, but that's not the case yet.  The only time I've seen him quoted was a direct translation of his "it's fun to shoot people" soundbite about killing terrorists that deserve to die.  But only the "fun to shoot people" part of the quote was printed...what was NOT included was his discussion about how the people he likes to shoot are all dickwads that rape women, kill kids, rape little boys, and are generally assholes.

Also (and partially thanks to Mr. Trump), he's now "Mad Dog Mattis" to Korean media.  Not "Chaos Mattis," which the general has been rumored to prefer.

 

So, to readers of Korean papers and online media, you have a USMC former general who commanded in long, bloody Asian land wars, who has said "shooting people is fun," and everyone is calling him "mad dog Mattis."  

 

Koreans are, understandably (albeit incorrectly) scratching their heads and thinking "what the fvck-mida?"

 

I'm certain that Gen Mattis will impress as soon as he starts giving speeches as our SECDEF, but he's got an uphill battle over here in Asia.  What we view as a smart, seasoned, and cautious general (who really brings the pain when it's appropriate), Asia views very differently.  It doesn't change MY mind about Mattis (I think he's Mr. Trump's best pick yet), but just FYSA.

 

I just typed too fvcking much....and I just remembered that no one cares what the ROK thinks.  Thanks for reading anyway.  Maybe someone finds it interesting.

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1 hour ago, Ram said:

I'm actually unsure of the message we are sending the world.  Lemmie drop some info about the Korean perspective, courtesy DLI and a year doing ROKAF ACSC:

Obviously, the Koreans aren't thrilled about a Trump presidency.  They're certainly nervous, as most of their news about the US is translated almost directly from what CNN and the AP pump out (watching the news cycle hit here about 6.9-36 hours after it breaks in the US is interesting).  It's no surprise they think Trump a crass madman...that's what CNN told them.  Thanks, CNN.

So, after the Mattis announcement, I perused Korean media online.  The majority of the copy does indeed focus on Mattis' experience leading troops in the middle east.  However, this isn't necessarily seen as a positive here on the ROK, as local media generally view the Iraq war (and to a small degree, Afghanistan too) as a costly failure and huge strategic mistake.  (I'm not here to argue this point...I'm just telling you about the Korean perspective.)

The rest of the copy I've read describes Mattis as a general that's really respected by the US Military and by US Conservatives.  Again...this fact also carries positive and negative baggage.

I'd like to say that he's quoted well in Korean media, but that's not the case yet.  The only time I've seen him quoted was a direct translation of his "it's fun to shoot people" soundbite about killing terrorists that deserve to die.  But only the "fun to shoot people" part of the quote was printed...what was NOT included was his discussion about how the people he likes to shoot are all dickwads that rape women, kill kids, rape little boys, and are generally assholes.

Also (and partially thanks to Mr. Trump), he's now "Mad Dog Mattis" to Korean media.  Not "Chaos Mattis," which the general has been rumored to prefer.

 

So, to readers of Korean papers and online media, you have a USMC former general who commanded in long, bloody Asian land wars, who has said "shooting people is fun," and everyone is calling him "mad dog Mattis."  

 

Koreans are, understandably (albeit incorrectly) scratching their heads and thinking "what the fvck-mida?"

 

I'm certain that Gen Mattis will impress as soon as he starts giving speeches as our SECDEF, but he's got an uphill battle over here in Asia.  What we view as a smart, seasoned, and cautious general (who really brings the pain when it's appropriate), Asia views very differently.  It doesn't change MY mind about Mattis (I think he's Mr. Trump's best pick yet), but just FYSA.

 

I just typed too fvcking much....and I just remembered that no one cares what the ROK thinks.  Thanks for reading anyway.  Maybe someone finds it interesting.

It's always cool to hear an "outsider" perspective when it comes to US politics. Thanks for the insight Ram.

The situation in the ROK has been interesting. I've received updates from friends at Osan and elsewhere throughout the election and they've touched on some of the points you mentioned (US interventionism being bad in the eyes of the ROK, etc.). Probably the funniest thing I had heard is the absolute chaos that was created when Trump said something along the lines of "the Koreans can start defending themselves if they don't contribute more" as a kind of off-hand comment at a rally or something. A Korean childhood friend even told me that his family overseas were in a panic at the prospect of the US pulling out.

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Election day in the States went late into the wee hours of the morning, which put the most exciting parts at about mid-day in Korea.

The atmosphere was that of a funeral.  I speak often with the ROK Chief of Joint Strategic Planning at school over lunch, and he literally said to me "what the hell did you people DO?"

I chuckled a little bit.  The ROK is new to the whole democracy game, so don't expect them to always have a grasp on how it works.  (Hell, their president is going bonkers over here if you've been keeping up with the news.)

This picture also came to mind:

 

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@Kiloalpha, when I attended the ROKAF Staff College, not one ROK officer I asked about us leaving the Peninsula mentioned the alliance, US-ROK friendship, our sacrifices for them, etc.  They ONLY mentioned that it would be too costly for them to replace our capabilities. They only care about the money. Even the pro-US ROKAF guys were like this.  As an aside, the most pro-US ROKAF officer I've met in my RAS duties is Lee Chol-sul, the ex-NKAF MiG-19 pilot who defected in 1996 and was a ROKAF Lt Col (since promoted to colonel) when I was at the Staff College.

 

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@Kiloalpha, when I attended the ROKAF Staff College, not one ROK officer I asked about us leaving the Peninsula mentioned the alliance, US-ROK friendship, our sacrifices for them, etc.  They ONLY mentioned that it would be too costly for them to replace our capabilities. They only care about the money. Even the pro-US ROKAF guys were like this.  As an aside, the most pro-US ROKAF officer I've met in my RAS duties is Lee Chol-sul, the ex-NKAF MiG-19 pilot who defected in 1996 and was a ROKAF Lt Col (since promoted to colonel) when I was at the Staff College.
 

I like the stability we bring to the region by being there. I also can get cheap billeting when I pick up my tailored suits from Mr moon.

I know, we're under appreciated but we should be used to that by now.



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Maybe he will run for President in 4 years. I can see the slogans/Tshirts now "Mad Dog 2020".
Question; Does anyone know the real story about this particular incident that happened at the Rhino LZ (2001/Afghanistan)? Did the USAF bail out General Mattis/USMC by taking the initiative and rescuing the wounded SF troops?

https://m.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/24spkh/mattis_veterans_are_not_victims/

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2 hours ago, pbar said:

@Kiloalpha, when I attended the ROKAF Staff College, not one ROK officer I asked about us leaving the Peninsula mentioned the alliance, US-ROK friendship, our sacrifices for them, etc.  They ONLY mentioned that it would be too costly for them to replace our capabilities. They only care about the money. Even the pro-US ROKAF guys were like this.  As an aside, the most pro-US ROKAF officer I've met in my RAS duties is Lee Chol-sul, the ex-NKAF MiG-19 pilot who defected in 1996 and was a ROKAF Lt Col (since promoted to colonel) when I was at the Staff College.

 

My experience echoes yours.

 

I don't think we should move out of NE Asia like the isolationists like to suggest, but this region has been on the gravy train for too long.  Mr. Lim is getting old, and Songtan ain't what it used to be.

 

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2 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

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Tidbit; General Mattis will be our first Secretary of Defense "ever" that's single. General Mattis A.K.A. "The Warrior Monk" is a life-long bachelor, who has never been married and has no children.

My recommendation; The first order of business for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on day one, should be to get this dude hooked up/laid.

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1 hour ago, waveshaper said:

My recommendation; The first order of business for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on day one, should be to get this dude hooked up/laid.

Classy. 

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2 hours ago, waveshaper said:

My recommendation; The first order of business for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on day one, should be to get this dude hooked up/laid.

It'll be like an old-school green bean tour of Son-Tong/A-Town, take him downtown get em' drunk, find him an acceptable female accompaniment and let nature take it's course.... Ahhhh amore'

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3 hours ago, waveshaper said:

Tidbit; General Mattis will be our first Secretary of Defense "ever" that's single. General Mattis A.K.A. "The Warrior Monk" is a life-long bachelor, who has never been married and has no children.

My recommendation; The first order of business for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on day one, should be to get this dude hooked up/laid.

Since when does "single = not getting laid?"

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All the married guys want to be single; all the single guys want to be married....

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Married/Single is no factor.  He's joining the Trump administration.....just grab 'em by the pu$$y.

Nice try OSI
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On 11/27/2016 at 0:37 PM, Ram said:

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The last 2 sources on this Facebook copy/paste don't work, and the first source is a link to a short and irrelevant biography of John Bonifaz.

That said, is it not extremely obvious that the recount attempt was made because Jill Stein doesn't like Donald Trump? She's the green party candidate for crying out loud. There might... might be some legitimate arguments in favor a recount, but the political bias in the attempt is fairly obvious.

Regardless, Obama, himself, has said the election results should stand. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/audit-the-vote-recount-jill-stein-election-hillary-clinton-trump-2016-11

In other words, this is a non-story. The real story is Trump's bombastic approach to foreign policy, deeply concerning choices for his cabinet (with the except of Mattis), and unpresidential/unprofessional use of Twitter (among all of the other things wrong with him as a person).

This post of yours is just another shout in the echo-chamber. 

 

 

 

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It's obvious that the Stein recount was a money grab by the Green Party. As far as how she managed to raise more money in a week than she did during her WHOLE CAMPAIGN, I guess we can just speculate.


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Trump is now taking aim at the F-35. Not going so far as to say it's cancelled (like Air Force One), but he's making it clear that it needs to be cleaned up.

Source (for people of the Republican persuasion):http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/12/f-35-program-cost-is-out-control-trump-says.html

Source (for @nsplayr): https://www.rt.com/usa/370014-trump-f35-save-billions/

Source (for everyone else): https://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/10/29/trump-wants-fire-f-35/74800906/

 

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1 hour ago, Kiloalpha said:

Trump is now taking aim at the F-35. Not going so far as to say it's cancelled (like Air Force One), but he's making it clear that it needs to be cleaned up.

Source (for people of the Republican persuasion):http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/12/f-35-program-cost-is-out-control-trump-says.html

Source (for @nsplayr): https://www.rt.com/usa/370014-trump-f35-save-billions/

Source (for everyone else): https://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/10/29/trump-wants-fire-f-35/74800906/

 

I knew I'd have to deal with the consequences of picking the wildcard eventually... One week he's appointing Mattis, and the next he's acting like a 17-year-old girl on Twitter. Maybe I'm a broken record, but regardless of your stance on the F-35, Trump needs to leave the military stuff to the guys who didn't defer the draft due to 'heel spurs' (no matter how accurate a diagnosis that was) and/or call out McCain because he likes "people who weren't captured." Get off of Twitter and deal with our economy - that's why I chose you instead of the butcher of Benghazi.

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