ViperMan Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, filthy_liar said: Rat - you type a whole lot of what we should do. A ten year old could do that. What you are not doing is describing how we go about it. How do I have a discussion with a liberal about why immigration control is important when they are more outraged that some parents don't want dicks in the girls locker room than the fact that they are paying a shitload more at the pump and the cash register? Are you not talking to liberals? That's the kind of stuff they will come at you with claws over nowadays. The stuff you typed about NPR...good grief you are out of touch. Yes, the fringe mess is all over the View, all over MSNBC, and all over social media. Some things just take time, and other things are completely beyond your control. The sooner you realize that, the less grief you'll feel over not being able to convert or connect with the crazies. Do you honestly think you're going to be able to "logic" your way into someone's feelings? What I'm saying is that there may be no "how," as you put it. If there was a "how," then by corollary, there would be a correspondent "how" to get you to think boys can be girls. Do you think there is a "how" that will accomplish that? Yeah I didn't think so. No. Sometimes, you just need to batten down the hatches, preach the truth to anyone who will listen, protect who you can, and let the shit collapse under its own weight - like seems to be happening right now in places like Oregon. To not be too cynical though, honestly, the best thing to do is probably approach all this indirectly - i.e. don't focus on "defeating" your opponent or converting people to your team. Create (or participate in) good institutions that reflect your values and be truly welcoming to other people who don't necessarily think like you. Put another way: show them, don't tell them. Edited November 2, 2022 by ViperMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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