5 hours ago5 hr 6 minutes ago, No One said:I can name at least 13 directly attributable to the current admin."Pallets of cash" conveniently ignoring that legally it was Iran's own money that had been previously locked up. And we're now looking at paying them 15x that amount immediately and 176x that amount later on. And not out of Iran's frozen funds this time but out of our own taxpayers pockets to boot.This thread is hilariously quiet while everyone waits to get their talking points on how what I outlined above is actually the checkmate move in trump's 4d chess game and not what it is at face value. Total capitulation and global embarrassment.Because you are not telling the truth...1. Unlike the deal with Obama we are not flying a plane full of cash to start things off, this is performance based deal. They get ZERO access to the funds until they comply with the nuclear details that have yet to be fully agreed upon.2. There are no taxpayer dollars, again ZERO U.S. dollars. .69 seconds of GoogleFu and your argument is displayed as nonsense.It cool if you don't like this deal but when you lie to try and make you points sound better...it turns out ungood.13 deaths...horrible, the outrage should go both ways like the other 13 you don't ever mention.Marine Corps Staff Sergeant Darin T. HooverMarine Corps Sergeant Johanny Rosario PichardoMarine Corps Sergeant Nicole L. GeeMarine Corps Corporal Hunter LopezMarine Corps Corporal Daegan W. PageMarine Corps Corporal Humberto A. SanchezMarine Corps Lance Corporal David L. EspinozaMarine Corps Lance Corporal Jared M. SchmitzMarine Corps Lance Corporal Rylee J. McCollumMarine Corps Lance Corporal Dylan R. MerolaMarine Corps Lance Corporal Kareem M. NikouiArmy Staff Sergeant Ryan C. KnaussNavy Hospital Corpsman Third Class Maxton W. Soviak
3 hours ago3 hr 1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:Because you are not telling the truth...1. Unlike the deal with Obama we are not flying a plane full of cash to start things off, this is performance based deal. They get ZERO access to the funds until they comply with the nuclear details that have yet to be fully agreed upon.2. There are no taxpayer dollars, again ZERO U.S. dollars. .69 seconds of GoogleFu and your argument is displayed as nonsense.It cool if you don't like this deal but when you lie to try and make you points sound better...it turns out ungood.13 deaths...horrible, the outrage should go both ways like the other 13 you don't ever mention.Marine Corps Staff Sergeant Darin T. HooverMarine Corps Sergeant Johanny Rosario PichardoMarine Corps Sergeant Nicole L. GeeMarine Corps Corporal Hunter LopezMarine Corps Corporal Daegan W. PageMarine Corps Corporal Humberto A. SanchezMarine Corps Lance Corporal David L. EspinozaMarine Corps Lance Corporal Jared M. SchmitzMarine Corps Lance Corporal Rylee J. McCollumMarine Corps Lance Corporal Dylan R. MerolaMarine Corps Lance Corporal Kareem M. NikouiArmy Staff Sergeant Ryan C. KnaussNavy Hospital Corpsman Third Class Maxton W. SoviakIronically those 13 are also attributable to the current admin's negotiating skills. Turns out cutting the Afghan gov out of negotiations and releasing a ton of taliban results in a cluster of a withdrawal.Does it really matter if it's literal plane fulls? Currently Iran is getting additional income via "tolls" and an alleged $25B of funds from negotiations that far exceeds the release of their own funds under Obama's deal.Tbd. The $300B figure which has been verified by our own VP is allegedly gulf state funded. It isn't released "unless they perform" which sounds a lot like the old deal we had... Just with a lot more cash. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a shell game to save face and a significant chunk of funds come from the US.The conflict itself has cost taxpayers an estimated $110B+ to date. The official figure is around $50B but that doesn't account for inflationary costs (primarily fuel) associated with the war.If you want to claim I'm lying feel free to provide some sources. But at the moment we've got:https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-says-draft-us-deal-includes-oil-sanctions-waiver-nuclear-limits-asset-2026-06-14/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/jd-vance-details-us-iran-agreement-scepticism-republicanshttps://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/27/politics/iran-war-spending-cancelled-trainings-delayed-maintenance
3 hours ago3 hr On 6/15/2026 at 4:38 AM, Negat0ry said:ah, he’s mad. What’s the bullshit again? What exactly do I not have knowledge of? Be specific.Not mad at all, just calling out frauds like yourself. Your entire “knowledge base” is built on whatever the media spews and a significant political bias. You do not have first hand knowledge and you demonstrate such a lack of understanding of classification and information ops, I doubt you’re even in the mil, or at least in a role that would actually understand these things. Specifics? The last post I replied to, and somewhere around 90%+ of your other posts in this thread alone.
3 hours ago3 hr 2 hours ago, No One said:I can name at least 13 directly attributable to the current admin."Pallets of cash" conveniently ignoring that legally it was Iran's own money that had been previously locked up. And we're now looking at paying them 15x that amount immediately and 176x that amount later on. And not out of Iran's frozen funds this time but out of our own taxpayers pockets to boot.This thread is hilariously quiet while everyone waits to get their talking points on how what I outlined above is actually the checkmate move in trump's 4d chess game and not what it is at face value. Total capitulation and global embarrassment.You mean 13 attributable to a mass murdering radical Islamic controlled government? We have been in conflict with Iran since 1979. More Americans have died from Iran directly or indirectly than from any other country. This escalation was bound to happen eventually.
2 hours ago2 hr What I don't get is, why anyone here supports/defends/thinks this deal is good (enough), let alone think that this deal satisfies the goal of all the military action/lose of life, etc. I don't get it.
1 hour ago1 hr 1 hour ago, dream big said:You mean 13 attributable to a mass murdering radical Islamic controlled government? We have been in conflict with Iran since 1979. More Americans have died from Iran directly or indirectly than from any other country. This escalation was bound to happen eventually.They don;t care...orange man bad, who give a flying F if thousands of Americans died from Iran's support of terror.
28 minutes ago28 min 2 hours ago, brabus said:Not mad at all, just calling out frauds like yourself. Your entire “knowledge base” is built on whatever the media spews and a significant political bias. You do not have first hand knowledge and you demonstrate such a lack of understanding of classification and information ops, I doubt you’re even in the mil, or at least in a role that would actually understand these things.Specifics? The last post I replied to, and somewhere around 90%+ of your other posts in this thread alone.Whatever makes you feel better buddy. You still didn’t answer the question (because you struggle with your arguments).Also, you’re so far off base it’s hilarious, but it does make me appreciate the internet. Remember how delusional you guys are that when a retired C-17 squadron commander came in a couple months ago with different views than the talk radio pumping into your assholes, you all literally said his account must have been compromised because you can’t COMPREHEND that you live in an echo chamber of delusion.
23 minutes ago23 min Iran is a unique lone actor in the world. As outlined by a few high iq intelligence experts they have 3 dangerous characteristics that most of the other current “bad actors” don’t have. They have 1) an ideologically extremist state leadership in place, they have 2) a decently effective war fighting machine with the ability to wreak havoc in their immediate area, and 3) they have the desire to force their ideology on other nations and people groups. A dangerous trifecta that historically (recently) included nazi Germany.In case disputes of my claim arise … I am fully aware that we could also include the communist and socialist countries of Vietnam, Cambodia, N Korea, Russia/USSR, and China (they all have or had at least portions of all 3 to varying degrees). I don’t think these nations are as dogmatic as the islamists are in their attempts to burn and/or conquer foreign lands.if the leaked agreement points are valid, I’m not too pleased and hoped for much more demand and way less (none) reward or compensation. I’ll reserve full judgement until all the details are fully known (actionable plans and oversight).
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