26 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Like a real attack, or will it be similar to whatever that was a few months ago?

If they wanted to do real damage they wouldn't have waited.  Now they've given time for 'allies' to prep.  Hard to believe it'll be anything different than previous.  Maybe more to possibly get some hits but who knows.  

 

22 minutes ago, Sim said:

 

A bunch of the more legit twitter trackers are saying the reports of deaths are false.  Not that it matters, it's only a matter of time until they do cause deaths.  

Edited August 6, 20241 yr by uhhello

12 hours ago, uhhello said:

A bunch of the more legit twitter trackers are saying the reports of deaths are false.  Not that it matters, it's only a matter of time until they do cause deaths.  

False, wounded only. 
 

Edit: Reports still coming in and all conflicting. I’m hoping I’m only right and not wrong. 

Edited August 6, 20241 yr by dream big

False, wounded only. 
 
Edit: Reports still coming in and all conflicting. I’m hoping I’m only right and not wrong. 

One evacuated to Baghdad for a femoral injury.


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ADMIN NOTE:  The posts concerning drones over the Northeast have been moved to their own thread...
 

 

10 hours ago, M2 said:

ADMIN NOTE:  The posts concerning drones over the Northeast have been moved to their own thread...
 

 

Could my post on “WB-57F and Drone Swarms” over on the General Discussion be move over or combined as well? 
There’s three pages so maybe just the last few threads. 

12 hours ago, HeyEng said:

Could my post on “WB-57F and Drone Swarms” over on the General Discussion be move over or combined as well? 
There’s three pages so maybe just the last few threads. 

Give me some time, but I will take move it into that thread as well...

11 hours ago, M2 said:

Give me some time, but I will take move it into that thread as well...

Thanks!

Not widely reported but Iran ordered approximately 100 J-10C's from China, the first 40 of which have been delivered and they were equipped PL-15.  Given how this combination did in the skirmish between Pak and India this is a big change in the balance of power in the region.

On 9/16/2025 at 3:13 PM, ClearedHot said:

Not widely reported but Iran ordered approximately 100 J-10C's from China, the first 40 of which have been delivered and they were equipped PL-15.  Given how this combination did in the skirmish between Pak and India this is a big chance in the balance of power in the region.

That did happen quietly 

Few more articles I found after reading your post

https://www.newarab.com/analysis/will-china-help-iran-build-new-air-force

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/chinas-j-10c-fighters-sitting-ducks-for-israel/?amp

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5440797-iran-china-fighter-jets/
 

While the news has been covering Venezuela Iran is in the middle of a revolution regime change.

Reports indicate Khamenei plans exit to Moscow.

Wake me up when they actually pull it off. This has happened how many times now? If Khomeini hasn't had plans ready for decades I'd be very surprised.

would be fantastic if true!

I saw a really nice throw of a Molotov Cocktail. Maybe bring him over on a football or baseball scholarship.

I think I'll wait to see who follows before getting interested. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan... It's not an easy region to reform.

The Iranian threat is what made the Abraham accords possible. I wonder if the Middle East can unify without a central bad guy to align against.

4 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

I think I'll wait to see who follows before getting interested. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan... It's not an easy region to reform.

The Iranian threat is what made the Abraham accords possible. I wonder if the Middle East can unify without a central bad guy to align against.

Appears to be all internal and organic at this point (I am not naive to think CIA and Mossad haven't been helping), but Israeli leadership just approved an attack on the IRGC...would prefer they stay out of it.

11 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

I think I'll wait to see who follows before getting interested. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan... It's not an easy region to reform.

The Iranian threat is what made the Abraham accords possible. I wonder if the Middle East can unify without a central bad guy to align against.

Iran is not Afghanistan, when Khomeini came to power, he had overwhelming support of Iranian college educated young women who believed him. Sound familiar? Back in the 70s I had a discussion with my cousin who was a young female at the time who supported Khomeini who just dismissed me. Sound familiar again. Before this under the Shah it was progressive secular society. The Shah's secret police were heavy handed with the Islamists who wanted a theocracy and our own CIA didn't make many friends due to us wanting to keep our listening stations along the shared border with USSR. Maybe this time we can get it right.

I’d love to see Iran get back to being a more free society where human rights are recognized and respected.

I was a kid in early 1971 when my family (father worked for a relief NGO) was evacuated from East Pakistan (Bangladesh); we stayed in Tehran with a USAF SMsgt’s family who hosted us for 2 weeks waiting for my older brothers to get out of West Pakistan (they were in boarding school). My parents have pictures from our time there and it was modern, clean and open. I remember the stark contrast of 3rd world where we lived in Dhaka to a modern and clean Tehran.

It’s sad that the people have been so controlled for so long. I wish them the best, but it’s going to be a rough ride for them regardless if they topple the mullahs or not. 45 years plus of essentially no say in their leadership or what form of governance they have.

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1 hour ago, Prosuper said:

Iran is not Afghanistan, when Khomeini came to power, he had overwhelming support of Iranian college educated young women who believed him. Sound familiar? Back in the 70s I had a discussion with my cousin who was a young female at the time who supported Khomeini who just dismissed me. Sound familiar again. Before this under the Shah it was progressive secular society. The Shah's secret police were heavy handed with the Islamists who wanted a theocracy and our own CIA didn't make many friends due to us wanting to keep our listening stations along the shared border with USSR. Maybe this time we can get it right.

Yes, well, just like in the '70s and '80s, the problem is going to be Islamic fundamentalists.

I don't think Egypt is that bad of a comparison. Mubarak was definitely better than Khomeini, but regardless it was the Muslim brotherhood that the population supported before Al Sisi came in and shut it down.

A much more extreme version of this problem exists in Palestine. The Palestinians in Gaza are no fan of Hamas, but that doesn't mean we are going to like who they end up supporting.

Fingers crossed.

Senior IRGC and Iran leaders families have fled Iran...to France of all places.

This might really happen.

52 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Senior IRGC and Iran leaders families have fled Iran...to France of all places.

This might really happen.

Very interesting. Short drive to the Hague as well. Given the trouble they've caused over the years all over the world it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they ended up in Federal Court over here. I'm sure we'd have to waive the death penalty but I'm ok with that.

Step on the gas. I'm hoping we have some inside people ready to throw a molitov at the right target at the right time, fire up the mob with the right chant, but don't go as far as streaking in the quad. That's when you lose em and they go back home.

It’s certainly heating up. Internet shut down now.

Trump tells Iranian protesters 'help is on its way' | AP News

I can't see any way Trump can back down now.

I wonder how fast we ramp up cruise missile etc. production because sustainability of a large-scale operation is looking for a lot more than a theoretical/academic discussion at this point.

Remember when Ukraine was THE headline?