March 22Mar 22 I would love to hear the crew's side of this story. Seems crazy for the crew to behave that way.
March 23Mar 23 2 hours ago, StrikeOut312 said: I would love to hear the crew's side of this story. Seems crazy for the crew to behave that way. Most definitely, but I loved the headline, the entire article, really. Edited March 23Mar 23 by O Face .
March 23Mar 23 2 hours ago, O Face said: We aren’t putting up with your shit anymore!!! Must've been a bad shit
March 23Mar 23 Didn't see any link, but it very well could have been the first class bathroom next to the cockpit. Can't do a crew changeover with someone in that bathroom so if a dude was hanging out in there for an extended period of time, that can mess up the FAA required crew rest breaks for an augmented flight.
March 23Mar 23 8 hours ago, Smokin said: Didn't see any link, but it very well could have been the first class bathroom next to the cockpit. Can't do a crew changeover with someone in that bathroom so if a dude was hanging out in there for an extended period of time, that can mess up the FAA required crew rest breaks for an augmented flight. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.638777/gov.uscourts.nysd.638777.2.0.pdf Tulum to Houston. Not sure if in flight or on the ground. But definitely a narrowbody. “The pilot became visibly enraged, broke the lock on the door and forced the bathroom door open pulling the passenger out of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles…”
March 23Mar 23 Interesting. A pilot has no business being in the back of the plane interacting with passengers once boarding is complete. Can only lead to trouble. Obviously taking this with a huge grain of salt as the lock doesn't need to be broken for the door to be opened. Airplane bathroom door locks make home bathroom privacy locks look secure.
March 23Mar 23 48 minutes ago, Smokin said: A pilot has no business being in the back of the plane interacting with passengers once boarding is complete. Can only lead to trouble. I'd even strike "once boarding is complete." Lots of problems happen during boarding and we have people for that, too. Some CAs feel the need to make a PA directly to the passengers in pursuit of some nebulous passenger satisfaction metric. Nah. Best case you get some attaboys on X. Worst case you say "Ladies and Gentlemen" and you lose your job for a while. Edited March 23Mar 23 by nunya
April 20Apr 20 Daughter's on the way home from the Viet Nams. Korean Air all the way. Was curious about the heading change to the east over China. Edited April 20Apr 20 by arg Can't spell Korean
April 20Apr 20 That's the entry and exit between the two countries when you're going eastbound. There's a FIR handoff avenue east of Shanghai. Edited April 20Apr 20 by FourFans
April 20Apr 20 I’ve passed between China and Korea well north of that area over AGAVO on my way in and out of TAO/ZSQD. From what I can see, there are four very large SIGMETS from surface to FL400 for embedded thunderstorms just north of where they made that big turn to the east. My guess would be they were either preemptively avoiding or they just weren’t happy with their ride and what they were seeing on the radar. or it could be what FF said. It looks like historically, they do jink east (though not usually that big) in the vicinity of Shanghai, which is the normal corridor. Edited April 20Apr 20 by JeremiahWeed
April 20Apr 20 I've had some non-direct routing through there due to military exercises so that might be a possibility. Edited April 20Apr 20 by TreeA10
April 20Apr 20 When I was tracking the flight it looked like they were direct ICN, then they made that big course change. I thought maybe weather but it didn't show any right where they were. I looked at past flights and one did fly a similar flight path. Who knows. Funny thing, her itinerary shows KA all the way to LIT. Must be some sub. By the way, she had a great time there.
April 21Apr 21 Pretty much the entire west coast of Korea is a military training area surface to 50k if I recall correctly. Going direct would have flown through almost the entire thing.
April 22Apr 22 Probably an ATC routing thing like 4Fans mentioned. Direct (or close to it) would have avoided the entire western complex, so that’s not a factor.
May 7May 7 On 3/21/2025 at 6:15 PM, Standby said: You’ve never taken off on taxiway zulu at Bagram before? Or landed mistakenly on the taxiway at Balad on NVGs. I remember that tower call when we were about to land #2. Nice job guys, just taxi straight ahead to park. Doh!
July 22Jul 22 Just saw this incident in Sweden. A pilot tested above Swedish limit for blood alcohol and was detained which delayed the flight back to JFK. Hopefully nobody here involved/impacted. https://viewfromthewing.com/delta-pilot-arrested-just-before-takeoff-for-failing-breathalyzer-every-passenger-now-owed-705-cash/
July 23Jul 23 19 hours ago, bfargin said: Just saw this incident in Sweden. A pilot tested above Swedish limit for blood alcohol and was detained which delayed the flight back to JFK. Hopefully nobody here involved/impacted. https://viewfromthewing.com/delta-pilot-arrested-just-before-takeoff-for-failing-breathalyzer-every-passenger-now-owed-705-cash/ Must’ve been an old NorthWest crew dog.
July 23Jul 23 My personal bottle-to-throttle is about double the FOM standard. Just too much money in the pot to call that hand. That said, if I ever do get into widebody international again, I will go full Quaker from CONUS coast-out to clearing US customs. Happy to go hit Oktoberfest or a bottle of wine with dinner up the Italian coast...but only on vacation.
July 23Jul 23 The latest news is this was a false positive but flight already canx. If it really was false pos, I feel bad for the pilot put through all this crap.
July 23Jul 23 If you do international, layovers are long enough to still comply with your double bottle-to-throttle standard. I've stuck with 12 hours and the only problem I've had was when I was reassigned domestically after hitting an Irish Pub in NY and I told the scheduler I wouldn't accept the trip because it is inside my 12 hour rule. Scheduler goes nuts screaming its legal so a Chief pilot calls. He asks if my 12 hour apples to sign in or push. I tell him I'll accept push time and the flight gets slipped. You are right, money is too good to be stupid.
July 23Jul 23 43 minutes ago, bfargin said: The latest news is this was a false positive but flight already canx. If it really was false pos, I feel bad for the pilot put through all this crap. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, false positive, or BS "drug recognition expert" arrest that ultimately gets thrown out, still triggers certain Fed actions, including grounding and HIMS goat-rope (a valuable program, but if you're stone cold sober it gets devalued as a haze).
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