The Next President is...

[ClearedHot]

13 hours ago, Negatory said:

I want to echo ClearedHot here and say “Orange Man not my favorite.” But with that being said, I’d also like to say that his TS/SCI/SAP documents he stored at his house and lied about are NOTHING COMPARED TO HILLARY OR BIDEN. Have you seen the DNC lately? They recently tried to make me have gay sex with a transvestite immigrant. Fuck democrats.

Thats the forum, buddy.

I want to echo Negatory here and say "Harris is not my favorite" But with that being said, I'd also like to say Orange Man is a fascist Hitler.  Have you seen the GOP lately?  They want closed borders, they object to us paying education, housing and well EVERYTHING for illegals. They think biological men shouldn't play women's sports, they object to lawfare waged against political opponents, they are against removing the genitals of minors without telling parents, they are against forced gun buy backs, they are against taxpayers paying for sex change operations for prison inmates,  they hate inflation, and incredulously, they want to keep the 1st amendment in place.  Fuck Republicans.

That's what you want to forum to be....buddy.

[Lawman]

I went to a very liberal college and I’m usually not that petty with some old friends over how these things go, but the condescending attitudes they’ve had on why it happened…. So I sat down and fired this off into the room like a flash bang.


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[disgruntledemployee]

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

[tac airlifter]

6 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

But they couldn't secure the nomination.  He did.  So your point is irrelevant.

[kaputt]

1 hour ago, disgruntledemployee said:

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

Edited November 10, 2024 by kaputt

[Lawman]

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

That’s kind of the weird half factual argument I’ve seen.

Like the guy primary’d… what he didn’t do was go debate. Those aren’t the same thing, but some people want to use it as a qualifier for whether a candidates name can appear on a ballot, but if that’s the way then change the rules for next time.

As much as I didn’t want to do 4 more years of nuclear level chaos energy in everything political, dude is elected.


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[arg]

On 11/8/2024 at 9:23 PM, Pooter said:

I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with how the dems have taken this absolute ass whooping. Lots of hysterics online and on the talk shows, but the people that mattered respected the process, conceded in a timely fashion, and honestly did a lot to de-escalate and re-instill trust in our election process right now. Honestly I’m really thankful for this outcome because I’m positive a trump loss would not have garnered the same reaction from republicans, and it would have gotten very bad.  

The left has shown a shocking amount of maturity and done something I think most of the maga crowd is incapable of right now: accepting election results that didn’t go their way.

Having said that.. I’m fully prepared to be proven wrong by the dems as soon as they regroup enough to concoct the next grand conspiracy about the right, probably involving them all somehow being nazis. 

[HeloDude]

What the left doesn’t seem to understand, is that Trump won on the majority of the issues, Kamala was a bad candidate, and also that Trump came across as more likely to be the one who could act on those issues.  But yet the left is doubling down on more illegal immigration, men playing on girls sports teams, mutilating young children, higher taxes/more government spending in the name of fighting climate change, etc.  

If you’re going to go against the majority of Americans when it comes to issues that matter most, then you better have a super smooth candidate and/or be up against a candidate that even the opposing party dislikes.  

[M2]

2 hours ago, kaputt said:

Should they have forced him to step aside after he won the primary and replaced him with someone who no one voted for? 

Shack!

[ClearedHot]

[skybert]

9 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

I want to echo Negatory here and say "Harris is not my favorite" But with that being said, I'd also like to say Orange Man is a fascist Hitler.  Have you seen the GOP lately?  They want closed borders, they object to us paying education, housing and well EVERYTHING for illegals. They think biological men shouldn't play women's sports, they object to lawfare waged against political opponents, they are against removing the genitals of minors without telling parents, they are against forced gun buy backs, they are against taxpayers paying for sex change operations for prison inmates,  they hate inflation, and incredulously, they want to keep the 1st amendment in place.  Republicans.

That's what you want to forum to be....buddy.

They’re against infanticide and sexual perversion in general.  Animals

[skybert]

7 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

There are a way whole lot of better people than Trump that can/would do pretty much anything he has promised.  That's been my entire point for this election cycle.

And where are they? Id’a voted for them, democrat or republican, or any other label if they showed up.

[skybert]

[BashiChuni]

Complete ass beating and mandate. Cannot wait. The tears and wailing will be so enjoyable

[TreeA10]

And as I type this, CA District 13 has only counted 57% of the vote according to the Real Clear Politics page. And there are 8 CA districts total that haven't finished counting!  WTF California???  Yeah, we really need to spread those California values across the nation

Edited November 11, 2024 by TreeA10

[disgruntledemployee]

I read something that said Biden felt dissed so when he withdrew, he named Kamala as a fuck you.  I don't think he has enough brain left to do that, but the spin is fascinating.

[ClearedHot]

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I read something that said Biden felt dissed so when he withdrew, he named Kamala as a fuck you.  I don't think he has enough brain left to do that, but the spin is fascinating.

The DNC is self-immolating with the blame game, I hope they come to some self-reflection about just how extreme they became.  Fareed does a good job of breaking down three major mistakes, even if he does pat himself on the back for calling these errors in advance.

1.  "The collapse of the immigration system and the chaos at the border"

2.  "The overzealous misuse of the law to punish Trump"  "Overeducated urban liberals were hypocrites, happy to bend rules and norms when it suited their purpose."

3.  "The dominance of identity politics that came from the urban academic bubble."

He wraps with liberals using "speech codes and cancel culture that censors or restricts that most cherished of liberal ideas....free speech"

The GOP was got reflect and corrected after the beatdown that was supposed to be a red wave in 2022, I wonder how long it will take the DNC to cull the heard.  California and Massachusetts are poised to fight to the death for the failed policies...the shit show will continue.

[TreeA10]

Few on the Dem side had the testicular fortitude to call BS on this but a week later, everybody saw it coming and thought it was a losing path.  Maybe they were also in China with Tampon Tim when Tianamen Square want down.  The scary part is none of this would come out if Harris had won and then the past policies are good to go for another 4 years.

[guineapigfury]

4 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I read something that said Biden felt dissed so when he withdrew, he named Kamala as a fuck you.  I don't think he has enough brain left to do that, but the spin is fascinating.

The timeline forced the Democrats to go with Kamala.  Since she was on the ticket with Biden she still got to access the campaign funds they'd raised prior to his withdrawal.  That would not be the case for anyone else and those funds would have to be returned to the donors or given to the DNC if neither her nor Biden were the nominee.  The DNC could spend that money, about $100 million, on ads but not on directly running the campaign as that would violate campaign finance laws.  If the Democrats had speedrun a second primary or picked literally anyone else at an open convention, that candidate would have to build a campaign apparatus from scratch and start fundraising from a base of $0 all less than 4 months from the election.  The Democrats really just did not have any other option than to go with Kamala since she was the only candidate with existing campaign funds and equally important an already existing campaign apparatus in place.  You go to the election with the campaign you have if I can paraphrase an F-tier SECDEF.

[di1630]

The timeline forced the Democrats to go with Kamala. 

Not true, $ stuff is accurate but Donors flocked once Biden was out. There would have been plenty.

Rumor has it the Obamas were readying Mark Kelly to take the ticket and Biden endorsed Kamala with no support from the DNC high ups as a F-U for being ousted in the manner he was.

Really sour relations reported between Obamas and Bidens.

Mark Kelly v Trump even with a smaller war chest = Trump loss and we’d have a different outcome.



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[ViperMan]

12 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I read something that said Biden felt dissed so when he withdrew, he named Kamala as a fuck you.  I don't think he has enough brain left to do that, but the spin is fascinating.

I want this to be true so badly. The irony of her calling him a racist in the 2020 election cycle and then him, an ornery old man, sinking her future political career with this kiss of death would be absolutely delicious, but I don't think he was that adept.

The whole thing went exactly according to their plan...problem is, it didn't work.

8 hours ago, guineapigfury said:

The timeline forced the Democrats to go with Kamala.  Since she was on the ticket with Biden she still got to access the campaign funds they'd raised prior to his withdrawal.  That would not be the case for anyone else and those funds would have to be returned to the donors or given to the DNC if neither her nor Biden were the nominee.  The DNC could spend that money, about $100 million, on ads but not on directly running the campaign as that would violate campaign finance laws.  If the Democrats had speedrun a second primary or picked literally anyone else at an open convention, that candidate would have to build a campaign apparatus from scratch and start fundraising from a base of $0 all less than 4 months from the election.  The Democrats really just did not have any other option than to go with Kamala since she was the only candidate with existing campaign funds and equally important an already existing campaign apparatus in place.  You go to the election with the campaign you have if I can paraphrase an F-tier SECDEF.

That was their plan. They didn't want Biden. They didn't want a primary. Dems waited until the time was right so they could jettison Biden, but were also close enough to the general election that they couldn't "afford" to hold a run-off or primary. Don't kid yourself. Pelosi and Obama wanted nothing to do with a damaging free-for-all primary that was going to be anybody's game with all the attendant uncertainty, all the while Trump was dodging bullets and chucking spears in the background.

No. The plan was to prop up Kamala and pray. It didn't work.

[M2]

On 11/10/2024 at 6:37 PM, ClearedHot said:

As I don't trust any media, even that which I agree with; and as I have been playing around with AI a lot lately (STS), I decided to ask this question of it.  While it couldn't give me a map for some reason, here are the results...

Here is a list of every state, indicating who won in the 2024 Presidential Election and whether the state requires a photo ID to vote:

States with Strict Photo ID Requirements

1. Alabama - Donald Trump
2. Georgia - Donald Trump
3. Indiana - Donald Trump
4. Kansas - Donald Trump
5. Mississippi - Donald Trump
6. Tennessee - Donald Trump
7. Wisconsin - Donald Trump

States with Non-Strict Photo ID Requirements

1. Arizona - Kamala Harris
2. Arkansas - Donald Trump
3. Colorado - Kamala Harris
4. Florida - Donald Trump
5. Idaho - Donald Trump
6. Louisiana - Donald Trump
7. Michigan - Kamala Harris
8. Missouri - Donald Trump
9. North Dakota - Donald Trump
10. Ohio - Donald Trump
11. Rhode Island - Kamala Harris
12. South Carolina - Donald Trump
13. South Dakota - Donald Trump
14. Texas - Donald Trump
15. Utah - Donald Trump
16. Virginia - Kamala Harris

States without Photo ID Requirements

1. Alaska - Donald Trump
2. California - Kamala Harris
3. Connecticut - Kamala Harris
4. Delaware - Kamala Harris
5. Hawaii - Kamala Harris
6. Illinois - Kamala Harris
7. Iowa - Donald Trump
8. Kentucky - Donald Trump
9. Maine - Kamala Harris
10. Maryland - Kamala Harris
11. Massachusetts - Kamala Harris
12. Minnesota - Kamala Harris
13. Montana - Donald Trump
14. Nebraska - Donald Trump
15. Nevada - Kamala Harris
16. New Hampshire - Kamala Harris
17. New Jersey - Kamala Harris
18. New Mexico - Kamala Harris
19. New York - Kamala Harris
20. North Carolina - Donald Trump
21. Oklahoma - Donald Trump
22. Oregon - Kamala Harris
23. Pennsylvania - Kamala Harris
24. Vermont - Kamala Harris
25. Washington - Kamala Harris
26. West Virginia - Donald Trump
27. Wyoming - Donald Trump

Here are the definitions for strict, non-strict, and no ID required voter identification laws:

Strict Photo ID Requirements

• Strict Photo ID: Voters must present a government-issued photo ID to vote. If they do not have an acceptable ID, they can vote on a provisional ballot but must take additional steps after Election Day for their vote to be counted. 

Non-Strict Photo ID Requirements

• Non-Strict Photo ID: Voters are asked to present a photo ID, but if they do not have one, they can still vote by signing an affidavit, having a poll worker vouch for them, or using another method to verify their identity. 

No ID Required

• No ID Required: Voters are not required to present any form of identification to vote. These states use other methods to verify the identity of voters, such as matching voter registration information with other records. 

[M2]

And since I was already messing around with Copilot, I decided to ask it the predicted results of the 17 outstanding House seats.  The GOP currently has 214 seats and the Democrats 205, with 218 needed for a majority)...

Here are the predicted winners for the outstanding House election results in key states:

Arizona

• 1st District: Leaning Republican
• 6th District: Leaning Democrat

California

• 13th District: Leaning Democrat
• 22nd District: Leaning Republican
• 27th District: Leaning Republican
• 41st District: Leaning Republican
• 45th District: Leaning Democrat
• 47th District: Leaning Democrat
• 49th District: Leaning Democrat

Colorado

• 3rd District: Leaning Republican
• 8th District: Leaning Democrat

New York

• 4th District: Leaning Democrat
• 19th District: Leaning Democrat
• 22nd District: Leaning Democrat

Oregon

• 5th District: Leaning Democrat
• 6th District: Leaning Democrat

Texas

• 34th District: Leaning Republican

These predictions are based on the latest vote counts and trends¹²³. The final results will depend on the remaining ballots being counted and any potential recounts or legal challenges.

[nunya]

You need 218 for a majority. 270towin has called several of those, putting Rs at 219. The only ones they've not called are AK and 5 in CA.

[M2]

17 minutes ago, nunya said:

You need 218 for a majority. 270towin has called several of those, putting Rs at 219. The only ones they've not called are AK and 5 in CA.

Yeah, I fat-fingered 214.  Thanks, I've corrected my post to read 218! 🫡

And I can't access 270towin at work! 🤬🤬