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[Lord Ratner]

22 hours ago, kaputt said:

Regardless of how one feels on abortion itself, this will likely strategically backfire on Republicans/Conservatives. 
 

Roe v Wade to the left is like the second amendment to the right, and all the stops are going to come out to spin this against conservatives. Also many moderates in this country were fine with the status quo. Look at the polling, 60% of Americans did not want to see Roe v Wade overturned, despite what their personal views on abortion were. 
 

All the shit going wrong in this country right now and reversing Roe v Wade is what conservatives are going to hang their hat on as a midterm approaches. Absolutely moronic; thank you Bible Belt southern states (and I live in one), for bringing this to the forefront at such a crucial time. 

I'm actually skeptical. A lot of the people who give a shit about this issue live in states that are absolutely not going to change abortion access.

 

There's also a 0% chance that abortion takes a meaningful position on the list of Americans concerns when the economy is doing poorly. Again, they didn't make abortion illegal, though some states certainly will, and the people in those states are already used to living in an abortion-hostile environment.

 

While it may have been politically risky, it was absolutely the right thing to do legally. If you haven't taken the time to read the draft ruling, it's only about 40 to 50 pages of actual text, and Scalia did an excellent job laying out the sheer lunacy of both the Roe and Casey rulings.

 

We need a greater return to states rights. The ideological differences in this country are growing, and you don't solve ideological differences by forcing one side to do what the other wants. That goes for both the left and the right.

[Lord Ratner]

15 hours ago, nsplayr said:

I’m assuming you feel similarly about the Bundy Standoff in 2016

I'm not sure what your point here is, but the Bundy standoff in 2014 is one of the best examples of why the second amendment matters in modern history (the second being Waco).

In the Bundy standoffs, BLM nonsense and executive rulemaking were challenged with the threat of violence. Had there been no guns everyone knows the Bundy's would have been rounded up in one day and the issue would have never made the spotlight. Instead. the constitutional right to have weapons offset the power of the government and introduced a limiting principal to the random rulemaking power of the BLM: are we willing to hurt people to enforce this rule. The government should always have to perform this calculus before making a rule or law. This was a case of the 2nd Amendment limiting the government without bloodshed.

 

In the case of Waco, government overreach and zeal resulted in a horrifying loss of life. But the aftermath changed the way the government operates. This was a case of the 2nd Amendment limiting the government with bloodshed.

In both cases, only the 2nd Amendment allowed for important limitations on government intervention.

 

As far as Bundy, in 2016 he was arrested and charged, which curiously ended with this little nugget:

 

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On December 21, 2017, a mistrial was declared by Judge Navarro, citing a "willful" failure by federal prosecutors to turn over FBI and BLM documents that would potentially aid the defense.^[64] Soon thereafter on January 8, 2018, Navarro dismissed with prejudice all charges against Cliven Bundy and his sons, thus forbidding any retrial of the defendants. In her decision, Navarro further criticized prosecutors for willful violations of defendants' due process rights, as well as the aforementioned failure to properly turn over evidence to their lawyers.^[4] The government appealed the dismissal.

 

So I'm not sure you're making the point you wish to make about Bundy.

 

Jan 6th, however, was a mess. Inspired (though not legally incited) by Trump. If you're wondering why Republicans are so reluctant to care about it, you'd have to appreciate the years of double-standard-outrage the left has imposed on the right. A year earlier the left was literally cheering on rioters. 

[Guardian]

Don’t forget the Buddy incident is why we in the Guard (country wide) can’t call ourselves militia anymore.

It was direction from Federal and NGB to remove that from the official titles of each states NGB.

[ClearedHot]

On 1/26/2022 at 11:48 PM, nsplayr said:

Believe what you want on the other points, but this is not true.

• DJIA close 3 Nov 2020 (election day): 27,480
• DJIA close 20 Jan 2021 (inauguration day): 31,188
• DJIA close 26 Jan 2022 (today): 34,168

 

• S&P 500 close 3 Nov 2020: 3,369
• S&P 500 close 20 Jan 2021: 3,851
• S&P 500 close 26 Jan 2022: 4,349

Stocks have indeed taken a dip off all-time highs in the last 3 weeks but...🤷‍♂️

How about now?

DJIA 32,432 = today - 8.5% inflation = 29586

S&P500 = 4108 today - 8.5% inflation = 3759

You didn't include the NASDAQ before:

NASDAQ close 20 Jan 2021 = 13,197.18

NASDAQ today = 11,700.66 - 8.5% inflation = 10706

Your boy is knocking it out of the park, it just gets better and better, we are all so much better off.

[Guest nsplayr]

You don’t just deduct an inflation % off of stock indeces closing prices lol 😅

[ClearedHot]

10 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

You don’t just deduct an inflation % off of stock indeces closing prices lol 😅

When it comes to purchasing power it most certainly does.

Even without the loss of purchasing power from inflation his DOW and S&P gain are almost a wash and his "pure" loss on the NASDAQ is 11%...building back better!

[tac airlifter]

I enjoy watching liberals argue how the economy isn’t actually bad.  Everything is more expensive.  Costs have gone up, purchasing power is down.  It’s obvious.  But keep trying this Jedi mind trick, it might work!

[slc]

How 'bout that $5 gas too!!!  I'm ridin' with Biden!!

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, nsplayr said:

You don’t just deduct an inflation % off of stock indeces closing prices lol 😅

Progressives:  You need to adjust the minimum wage for inflation.

Also progressives:  When the market is up, you don’t adjust for inflation.

[ClearedHot]

14 minutes ago, slc said:

How 'bout that $5 gas too!!!  I'm ridin' with Biden!!

You mean riding the bus!

[JimNtexas]

On 5/4/2022 at 2:26 PM, ClearedHot said:

I believe the draft was dated April 3rd...but ok it was released on May 3rd and now we have threats and endorsement from a sitting Governor to fight and burn it down...

So to be clear its cool when BLM and Antifa actually do storm and burn down government buildings or do you condemn them?  Also, you can threaten violence or say fight like hell and it is cool if it come from a liberal.

Thanks, it all makes sense now.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/07/8-times-left-wing-protesters-broke-into-government-buildings-and-assaulted-democracy/

[dream big]

1 hour ago, JimNtexas said:

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/07/8-times-left-wing-protesters-broke-into-government-buildings-and-assaulted-democracy/

Shhhh, enough with that.  It’s only news worthy when it’s the right.  Not that you can legitimately associate the larpsters and mr Viking hat with any respectable spectrum of republicans. 

[Guest nsplayr]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

When it comes to purchasing power it most certainly does.

Even without the loss of purchasing power from inflation his DOW and S&P gain are almost a wash and his "pure" loss on the NASDAQ is 11%...building back better!

If you want to compare real returns over several periods of time that’s great, inflation plays a part in that calculation. But there’s more information needed: when did you you buy, when did you sell, etc.

But what you can’t do is say, “The S&P 500 was at 6,900 under Trump, and today under Biden it’s 7,069 but minus 8.5% inflation so it’s really 6,468 ergo it’s lower ergo Libs suck!!!!1”

If you would like to have a conversation about stock gains under different administrations, if that is even a good measure of success or failure, how real returns have faired over time, if real wages are growing over time, what measure of inflation best represents the average person’s experience vs what measure can government policy affect in the short term, etc., I’m potentially open to that.

If you just want to say, “Stocks down, Biden sucks, LGB” feel free to do that without tagging me 🍺 You will not find me currently arguing stock performance is amazing or that inflation is not a problem - neither are true anymore!

[FLEA]

1 hour ago, dream big said:

Shhhh, enough with that.  It’s only news worthy when it’s the right.  Not that you can legitimately associate the larpsters and mr Viking hat with any respectable spectrum of republicans. 

I would argue that you could add the current protest at SCOTUS justice homes onto that list since I recently learned it is actually against federal law to protest outside the home of a justice deciding a case. (Considered judicial intimidation, same as jury intimidation)

I said I wouldn't wade into a Roe v Wade discussion but I am baffled by the tolerance and even encouragement of this behavior. 

[Guest nsplayr]

^^ I for one am someone who does not agree with what seems to be the forthcoming decision to overturn Roe and Casey, but I do not condone protesting outside Kavanaugh’s house. Folks should have a reasonable right to privacy in their own homes and I also think it’s counterproductive in almost all cases.

If I were to protest, it would be outside the Court itself.

I agree with the following: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/09/stop-protesting-outside-supreme-court-justice-houses/

[busdriver]

15 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

If I were to protest, it would be outside the Court itself.

Agree, with you and the opinion article. 

Fundamentally, if the public is successful with swaying a SCOTUS ruling, it reduces the legitimacy of the court itself.

[HeloDude]

I can’t wait for the left to call for her resignation and indictment for attempting to incite an insurrection…

[slc]

Beetlejuice back at it!!!!  Love it

[brickhistory]

Hillary's campaign manager admitted under oath that she, personally, gave the go ahead for a false Trump-Russian bank story (Alfa Bank).

Her lawyer admitted that the campaign paid for the false information.

The former FBI chief of staff testified that the other lawyer on trial, Sussman, specifically represented that he wasn't representing a client, i.e., lied to the FBI.

 

Also, 100+ days since the vegetable in chief held a press conference.  Sure seems like some pressing topics to discuss - Ukraine war, inflation, gas prices, baby formula shortage, overwhelming illegal immigration, leaked Supreme Court draft ruling, etc.

I dunno, you'd think he'd have some thoughts...

[Day Man]

33 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

Also, 100+ days since the vegetable in chief held a press conference.

source?

[Guest nsplayr]

Found one from March 24th 2022 after about 6.9 seconds of googling 🤷‍♂️
 

 

[uhhello]

17 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

Found one from March 24th 2022 after about 6.9 seconds of googling 🤷‍♂️
 

 

 

I think he meant to say sit down interview 🙂

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/triple-digits-biden-hits-100-days-without-a-media-interview

[dream big]

8 hours ago, brickhistory said:

Hillary's campaign manager admitted under oath that she, personally, gave the go ahead for a false Trump-Russian bank story (Alfa Bank).

Her lawyer admitted that the campaign paid for the false information.

The former FBI chief of staff testified that the other lawyer on trial, Sussman, specifically represented that he wasn't representing a client, i.e., lied to the FBI.

 

Also, 100+ days since the vegetable in chief held a press conference.  Sure seems like some pressing topics to discuss - Ukraine war, inflation, gas prices, baby formula shortage, overwhelming illegal immigration, leaked Supreme Court draft ruling, etc.

I dunno, you'd think he'd have some thoughts...

It’s getting close to the midterms and his handlers are probably nervous..probably keeping a tight leash on him before he continues embarrassing himself in public. 

[brickhistory]

11 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Found one from March 24th 2022 after about 6.9 seconds of googling 🤷‍♂️
 

 

Yep, that's on me.  I was unaware of the NATO press conference.

So it's only been two months.  

That's much better since not much has occurred.

 

 

But it's interesting that the timeframe for a Biden press conference, or lack thereof, was the takeaway from my post and not the court-admitted fact that Hillary herself is responsible for the Trump-Russia collusion fiasco that took up several years of our nation's time.

Different priorities, one supposes.

[Prozac]

Remind me, what office is Hillary running for?