HeloDude Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 The political left needing entertainers/the Hollywood elite to tell the common folk how great left wing politicians are…strange, I’ve never seen that done before.
ClearedHot Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 So in summary Uncle Joe has: 1. Screwed the Afghanistan Withdraw. 2. Torched the stock market (all gains since the election now erased). 3. Brought inflation home to America. 4. Failed to stop the virus as promised. 5. Opened the door for Russia to invade Ukraine. 6. Allowed China to rage in the South Pacific and now launch large force packages at Taiwan. 7. Tried bring us all back together by destroying the filibuster. He sure has re-established America on the world stage. Yes Trump is an ass, a horrible person, but this was worth all your hate? Simply unreal. 3 2 11
Guest nsplayr Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) On 1/25/2022 at 2:09 AM, ClearedHot said: ...Torched the stock market (all gains since the election now erased). Believe what you want on the other points, but this is not true. DJIA close 3 Nov 2020 (election day): 27,480 DJIA close 20 Jan 2021 (inauguration day): 31,188 DJIA close 26 Jan 2022 (today): 34,168 S&P 500 close 3 Nov 2020: 3,369 S&P 500 close 20 Jan 2021: 3,851 S&P 500 close 26 Jan 2022: 4,349 Stocks have indeed taken a dip off all-time highs in the last 3 weeks but...🤷♂️ Edited January 27, 2022 by nsplayr
Guest LumberjackAxe Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 Yeah, Biden hasn't actually done much except get me a 23% return on my investments last year, I really can't complain about that. Until I had to sell my crypto portfolio to pay for groceries, that is.
Guest LumberjackAxe Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 I really think Biden is going to be our sacrificial president and fall on his own sword so others with reputations at stake and with an actual future can benefit. - Afghanistan was going to fall to the Taliban no matter when we pulled out, so no president wanted that in their term... then Biden comes around and pulls out, sacrificing his reputation in the process, but ending that goddamn pointless war - Inflation... he's gonna have to pull a Paul Volcker to end it, which is also going tank his reputation AND the economy... but if the Democrats were smart, they'd stick Biden with all this shit to get it over with and run someone else in 2024
Sim Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 19 hours ago, nsplayr said: but this is not true. I've "lost" a year worth of gains just in this month. FJB!
Sua Sponte Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sim said: I've "lost" a year worth of gains just in this month. FJB! Don’t go long with Peloton.
bfargin Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 I might have missed it, but don't think I've seen this one here yet. 4
M2 Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said: ... then Biden comes around and pulls out... Seriously? I doubt the man has gotten into anything to pull out of in a very long time! 3 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said: ...if the Democrats were smart, they'd stick Biden with all this shit to get it over with and run someone else in 2024 First, that's a helluva assumption! There's no way they would not put forward an incumbent president unless it's for health issues. Otherwise it proves he hasn't done the job as well as they keep claiming he has. Also, they next logical choice would be the VP, and her ratings are falling even faster than his. If the Democrats were smart, they'd realize Biden was a one-and-done without mulligans; but in my opinion his "performance" has not only set them up for a huge hit during the mid-terms, but also in 2024. If they were smart, they'd have an exit plan better than the one they employed for Afghanistan. That would require not only taking Joe out of the picture, but Kamala as well. And despite what she thinks, it ain't gonna be Hilary either. The Democrats don't have a lot of time to get their shit together! All debates on voter fraud aside, they got lucky in 2020 and Biden's victory was more about people with hurt feelings over Trump more than a true belief that he would be a better president. Don't get me wrong, there was a lot wrong about Trump but in comparison Biden's performance can be summed up in a single graphic... 1
Guest nsplayr Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Sim said: I've "lost" a year worth of gains just in this month. FJB! As the old saying goes, “When the index is up and your portfolio is down, blame the President!” 😄 I know it sucks when your pixilated monkey JPEGs and virtual dog coins and 90s video game stonks plunge, but try to leave Uncle Joe out of it. I’ve been 💎🙌 into this obscure thing called VFIAX for about 15 years now, check it out 💰📈 HODL!
Lord Ratner Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Biden will announce that he's not going to run for reelection. That way the Democrats can run a legitimate primary, because they recognize if Kamala is the presumptive candidate, they're done. I expect the entire democratic machine to come out and work against her, just like the Republican machine will work against Trump if he decides to try again. Neither side is interested in running a deeply unpopular candidate right now. My fear is that the Republicans will run Ron DeSantis, who I like a great deal, but he has no hook. Just a boring white guy, and that's not gonna be enough. If he runs as Nikki Haley's vice president, that could do the trick. At least then he'll have name recognition after her second term. I think the Democrats are just as unsure as we are about who they're going to run. The war between the progressive wing and the liberal Wing has only gotten worse since 2020. Edited January 28, 2022 by Lord Ratner 1
FLEA Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 So an interesting play is to put Kamala on the supreme court. This allows Joe, or his handlers anyway, to anoint a new golden child while bypassing that sticky mess of democracy via a public election. Especially since Dems hold the house and Senate now and could get a replacement confirmed on their own terms. Then when Joe declines to run in '24 for "health reasons", they have an incumbent VP ready for the ballot. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
HeloDude Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, FLEA said: So an interesting play is to put Kamala on the supreme court. This allows Joe, or his handlers anyway, to anoint a new golden child while bypassing that sticky mess of democracy via a public election. Especially since Dems hold the house and Senate now and could get a replacement confirmed on their own terms. Then when Joe declines to run in '24 for "health reasons", they have an incumbent VP ready for the ballot. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. If Biden nominates Harris to SCOTUS and she is confirmed, then the VP position is vacant, and Biden’s nominee for a new VP needs to be confirmed by both the House and the Senate. But…the Senate would then be 50-50 split, with no tie breaker. So If the GOP wanted to, the VP position would go unfilled and no legislation could get through the Senate without at least 1 GOP Senator signing off. So without some major concessions to the GOP, they’d be back at gridlock (which I’m personally a fan of). BL: Harris is staying where she’s at for the time being
SurelySerious Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 I also don’t see how she could be confirmed to the SCOTUS. Surely she wouldn’t be allowed to break the tie in the Senate to appoint herself. 1
HeloDude Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: I also don’t see how she could be confirmed to the SCOTUS. Surely she wouldn’t be allowed to break the tie in the Senate to appoint herself. Why not?
Sua Sponte Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Trump has a better chance of being Speaker if the GOP flips the House than Harris being nominated to the SCOTUS. 1
Guest nsplayr Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, HeloDude said: Why not? Yea there doesn't seem to be any reason why she could not if the opportunity came up. This was asked when Trump was considering Sen. Mike Lee for SCOTUS and basically the conclusion was that during the vote, if he were the nominee, Lee could vote to confirm himself; Harris would be no different if required to cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate. All fun speculation, but it's not gonna happen. My money is on Ketanji Brown Jackson.
SurelySerious Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Why not?Conflict of interest a bit much.
M2 Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 12 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: My fear is that the Republicans will run Ron DeSantis, who I like a great deal, but he has no hook. Just a boring white guy, and that's not gonna be enough... I don't get this, how is that any different than Biden who adds old and senile to the equation?!? I would take DeSantis well over Trump in 2024! My only concern is he has fallen out of the public eye lately to care for his wife. Nikki Haley would be an excellent VP, and provide a future for the Republicans; but I don't trust them to make right decisions either!
Lord Ratner Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, M2 said: I don't get this, how is that any different than Biden who adds old and senile to the equation?!? I would take DeSantis well over Trump in 2024! My only concern is he has fallen out of the public eye lately to care for his wife. Nikki Haley would be an excellent VP, and provide a future for the Republicans; but I don't trust them to make right decisions either! First, Haley is more qualified than DeSantis. Not sure why he'd lead the ticket. Both would be excellent though. Like it or not, people vote with their eyes. The only reason Biden won, with the flaws you identified, is because Trump was a fucking moron. That's it. Biden loses this time around because of the economy. But he's not going to run, which means a clean slate for the voters. Put DeSantis, who's not a household name if you're not a solid liberal or conservative (with mostly predetermined votes) up against someone with pizzazz and melanin, he's toast. Unless of course you're anticipating a conservative wave at the ballot box, which I don't particularly see happening. Especially if Biden drops out. He's very smart, but he's also a bit of a robot. He's learned the lessons of Donald trump, namely that you don't take shit from the media, but he's still just doesn't have that wow factor. Nikki Haley has also learned the media lessons of Donald trump, but she's an attractive, minority, female, daughter of immigrants success story. If you can't see how she's a more powerful candidate, I'd say you're giving too much credit to the American voters for being issues, policy, philosophy based in their voting. Especially the "independent" vote which is largely people incapable of making up their minds. Maybe with 8 years of being a household name he'll have incumbency in his favor. But that's not the story of powerful way to get elected. I'd much rather see Nikki Haley run with Dan Crenshaw as her running mate. Crenshaw is not remotely qualified to be the president yet, but he certainly smart enough, is podcast is a testament to his conservative intellectualism, and he's got the best fucking hook I could imagine for a White Guy. Navy SEAL war hero disabled veteran who wears an eye patch. Can you imagine trying to debate that guy?
Sim Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 14 hours ago, nsplayr said: I’ve been 💎🙌 into this obscure thing called VFIAX for about 15 years now, check it out 💰📈 HODL! VFIAX is great, just piss poor dividends. VWUAX is great for dividends, but very high expense ration. Anyhow, if you think policy of senile man has nothing to do with market, you need hard look in the mirror.
Sim Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: Nikki Haley run with Dan Crenshaw Yes, RINOs is what this country needs.... 🤢 2
pawnman Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 It's a pipe dream...but I'd vote for a Tulsi Gabbard/Nikki Haley ticket (no matter which name was on top) in a heartbeat. And it would automatically short-circuit any "misogynist/racist/xenophobic" attacks. 1
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