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Of course their assassinations were horrible and wrong. As for not posting about it, I don’t think most people (nationally) even know who those people were, whereas Charlie Kirk was definitely well known. And if you did an unsuccessful search for their names, why didn’t you post about it when it occurred? The point is what I don’t recall is a big conservative push to say how it was a good thing those state reps were killed—unless I missed something?

1. charlie kirk is nationally known. some state senators not so much. 2. his assassination was captured up close in graphic detail. 3. this is clearly a political assassination. i don't even know who killed the hortmans. did they ever publish a motive or find the killer? i honestly don't know. kirk's death is a visual symbol of a direct attack on the first amendment.

I'll explain it. It's different because people on the right were calling for people to be doxxed for things that literally every sane person in the world agrees with - i.e. murdering people based on their beliefs is something that should not be tolerated. So yeah, let's dox those people in order to shame them and root out what is a sick and anti-social sect of people who for whatever reason seem to be gaining power in our country. On the other hand, people on the left were using doxxing as a means to impose a measure of social pressure and control on groups of people they would fear would speak out against their latest social fad / cause: all whites are racists, but Blacks cannot be racist; transgenderism is natural, etc, etc. In other words they're using doxxing to avoid having a conversation about what are controversial topics. In short, the right is using doxxing to preserve society and social norms. The left is using it to undermine society. See the difference? I will say fairly, that using doxxing to target bystanders (i.e. someone's family) is gross no matter what the circumstances. Sins of the father and all... And I'm not sure what your opinion is on nuclear weapons, but we wouldn't respond in-kind to NK with a bio or chem attack because we don't have those types of weapons anymore. But if NK used bio / chem in an appreciable way (not a couple shells here or there) that was going to turn the tide of battle in their favor, you better believe we'd pull out the nukes.

Lovely. Part of the sadness I feel about asinine comments like these, is that they are driven by the stereotype of Charlie Kirk, and not the facts. All you have to do is watch a few of the clips from his "encounters" and you discover he was none of the nasty things he's being called right now. The level of ignorance-fueled hate is, as always, unbelievable - but expected from the left.

So how many retired guys here have their 'Rank' (Ret.) as their titles at their new job? Absolutely zero chance you would ever catch me referring to my retired military rank. He's the president of a huge university, isn't that enough? I had to go to his speech one time on active duty and walked away thinking "How does everyone not see right through this guy? That was nothing but dumb pandering and anyone that was motivated by that is probably dumb enough that we don't need him."

The suspect in their killing had a list of pro-abortion figures, so yes, it was definitely political. I do not recall a single prominent conservative making excuses for or celebrating their murders.

Strongly oppose anything other than public disclosure of what they said out there for public consumption. Families should never be doxed (home info, relatives, etc). Make the owner of the words stand by them, but counter with more accurate and truthful words not violence (unless as someone outlined, self defense). I’m all for defending someone, if the perpetrator is intent on doing physical harm/death, with the use of copious amounts of deadly force.

Murder is bad...right? We are most definitely facing societal decline when murder is tolerated. People who condone murder should be labeled as terrorists.

From a Delta bro… It’s possible that there might actually be appropriate actions for one’s consequences. What a novel concept.

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/trump-says-with-a-high-degree-of-certainty-suspect-in-charlie-kirk-killing-caught

If this ends up being another trans shooter, then I have to disagree. We've tolerated and enabled the delusions of mentally ill people, both trans-identifying and the homeless, for years. Now we are reaping the bitter rewards of this feel-good bullshit. More people will die. You can't tell the most unhinged people in your society that anyone who doesn't participate in their fantasy is trying to "unalive" them. Just like you can't tell them that their democracy is dying, or a literal tyranny is being imposed upon the people. These tragically unstable citizens do not have the ability to detect hyperbole. They are taking the political rhetoric literally, and acting in a purely logical fashion if you accept their initial premise. If anyone on this forum believed that we truly were close to losing our democracy, we all would have a very different relationship with our personal firearms.

To foot stomp what Viper said, I didn’t intend for my use of “doxxing” to mean going after family, kids at school, etc. I should have been more clear earlier. What I mean is calling out the individual publicly to employers, neighbors, parents at schools (if said individual works at a school), local FB groups, etc. Screenshots of these POS humans SM posts are going viral on X, with their employers tagged (for example), which has resulted in multiple firings. That’s the kind of thing I want to see a lot more. There must be immediately impactful consequences for that kind of rhetoric, and losing income is one of those consequences.

I asked what the difference was, specifically. @Lord Ratner somewhat answered, though I disagree that providing information such as someone's home address will lead to a change in public discourse. It will more than likely lead to violence. If you're goal is to reduce ppl freely spouting hate on social media and risk it becoming publicly acceptable speech, maybe the companies allowing this stuff on their platform should be held accountable. @brabus If nK launches chem/bio weapons at Kunsan/Osan I don't expect us to lose our morals and respond in kind. If someone is stupid enough to post some disgusting shit with their real name attached, fine, fwd it to their boss. Posting their address, the name of their kids, and where they go to school is not going to shift a window developed by a policy analyst. If someone shows up to your kids school to harass them for being pro-life are you really going to change your views on pro-life? I'd argue most ppl are going to double down on their rhetoric, they're just going to be more discreet about it.

The rot is deep in our society Leftist Military Members Justify Charlie Kirk’s Assassination: ‘FAFO’ https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/11/leftist-military-members-justify-charlie-kirks-assassination-fafo/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because looking the other way, tolerating their behavior, “being the bigger person” has failed. They will stop at nothing to destroy anyone who is not part of their cult. Going too far would be burning cities/destroying property, inciting violence against them/killing them directly (unless in self defense). But, making sure their employers, neighbors, etc. know what POS they are, refusing them service, being direct with them that their evil bullshit is not wanted and will not be tolerated in our society any longer - that’s fair game and what needs to happen.

Yep, gloves off. Every one of these sick fucks (such as Mole’s vet example) should be doxxed, made to lose their jobs/unhireable, refused service at any business who knows about them, etc. They should not be assaulted or their property destroyed, but their easy lives should be made horribly difficult and intolerable. Fuck em.

The left is an unhinged cult. And to be clear, I’m not talking about the moderate dems who hold liberal beliefs on social services, health care, economics, etc. I’m talking about the large group on the left who cannot stand to hear someone doesn’t agree with them and subsequently wishes harm and ruin on them because of a differing opinion. That group is quite large. Time for people to wake up and actually hold these lunatics accountable for their rhetoric and actions.

Not being flippant or justifying it, but the answer is violence. Look at history. What do you see?

We went Sunday and it was intense. I certainly agree that Chapman should have been given a more complete display but given the totality of all the exhibits it was worth the trip. Our guide did say the sensor operator from Chapman's action visited not that long ago though the guide didn't say what discussions if any were had. One story about Cpl Rubin really hit me. Brass Balls the size of the moon if you ask me. Most MOH actions are an intense sprint where this guy ran the marathon. Medal of Honor Monday: Army Cpl. Tibor Rubin > U.S. Department of War > Story