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Wait, was your last response to me? I don’t even know what the fuck a DCG is, solid NameDrop though. However, I do know that you and Bashi are never going to convert one another. I also know that very few Americans “want to give Putin Eastern Europe like it’s his” most notably because Eastern Europe is not America’s to give. I also know that many Americans are a lot less concerned about Ukraine’s borders than our own borders, which this administration clearly has no interest in defending. I also highly doubt Bashi or Gearhog are KGB, but you seem comfortable calling them Putin operatives quite frequently. So, could they start calling you a Maduro shill since you’re more interested in sending billions of $ to Ukraine instead of fighting a Venezuelan invasion right here in our own southern border? The point is, maybe a bunch of Americans feel that some of that fake gov cheese should be spent here instead of there. I know, I know, now I’m a Putin fanboy too. I best start shopping for this season’s ushanka hat.

“Historical Ties to Russia/USSR.” Well that’s an incredibly stupid point to stand on given the argument. Most of us are arguing the necessity of stopping Russia in this fight to avoid them invading the next 5 nations who are all in NATO and apparently have “historic ties to Russia.” And yes NATO kicks in… against an opponent who is as you described justifiably fearful we will simply destroy them and likely to retaliate early and immediately with Nukes or Chem to immediately force us to stop short of a full exchange. That’ll only cost Stuttgart or Antwerp or something… no big deal right? Earlier in this thread you were screaming about the dangers of escalating with nukes because of our political support, now you’re telling us to pick the best COA likely to lead to their employment. God damn 4D-Clyde’ian-strategery right there gentlemen. Make that man a flag officer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We should have a NSFW thread on crazy Ex-GF stories.

Actual phrasing I use regularly: ”…after spending five months as a guest of the city of [redacted], she immediately went on a week long bender…”

Penalty! logic error. 10 yards, replay the down.

I don't think anyone views you or Bashi as a fanboy (at least I hope not), more akin to the isolationists leading up to WWII. We've been dancing with Russia since the end of WW II with ups and downs on both sides. The collapse of the FSU gave hope for long-term peace. Even the proxy conflicts abated for many years. However, with the rise of Putin and his desire to rebuild the FSU we have seen him reaching beyond Russia's borders through both direct and indirect action. I certainly understand the view of taking care of our borders and feeding our people here at home, but I also see the long-term danger of leaving Putin's actions unchecked. As a person with a strategic view I think my side of the argument sees the dangers as far more pressing and concerning than just territory lost in Ukraine. The second and third order effects destabilize everything and yes I think it emboldens Putin to go further. Energy markets, the world's food supply and a land war in Europe are not trivial matters to be ignored. One of the biggest mistakes we make as Americans is we tend to think our adversaries will act rationally as we would. Of course Putin wouldn't invade invade Poland, that would be foolish, right? Putin is a dictator, a ruthless one and if you step back and look at the things he is willing to do (employing chemical and radioactive material ON NATO SOIL, genocide, taking territory by force), it is not a stretch to think he might make other actions that we would consider irrational. Bullies respond to force and the tougher we make the fight in Ukraine for Putin I believe the lower the chance Putin takes aggressive action elsewhere.

ive read all of them

absolute obliteration of your enemy.

In high school I lamented my lack of ability/weight in the cannonball contest against my classmates. Now, they sound the Tsunami Alarm in the shallow end. I'll show them at the reunion.😁

Meanwhile in the guard you can get $50k for 3 years…and not be on AD. The AD gave up on retention a long time ago. The bonus sways zero people to stay in; 100% of takers were going to stay in anyways and the money was just icing on the cake. Change my mind.

It’s refreshing to see that the average everyday working class NORK can take their family to a nice waterpark………

the time to use soft power was long past. expanding nato was a HUGE strategic mistake. putin didn't just wake up and decide to invade ukraine. we were fucking around in russia's backdoor for decades and guess what...we found out

I'm not israeli either for the record, while we're on this virtue signaling tour.

look at you name dropping DCG! you're so cool like i said let me know when a nato country is invaded then i'm in. ukraine ain't nato. and it's corrupt as fuck. so enjoy your globalist war you soldier of the world!

can't wait for you to call for us to fund all those eastern bloc governments to "defend democracy" ukraine and russia have historical ties that is undeniable. and not dumb. stop being a war hawk haven't you learned anything post wwii?

You are literally parroting what will be China’s excuse to invade Taiwan in a discussion about deterrence and wider foreign policy like it’s a good reason to reward annexation by force. Ukraine has “historic ties,” yeah so do the Czech’s. Maybe read a book some time on what the conditions of those historic ties and why they came running into NATO to avoid going back to them. “Eastern Bloc Governments,” wow. Those are NATO partners. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/12/ukraine-is-on-the-cusp-of-losing-this-war-were-screwed/ so whats the move playboy? you gonna put american troops in ukraine to stop them from losing? honest question. now that you've hitched your wagon to a losing side what's next? gonna have to continue escalating and you're gonna stumble us into WW3

you didn't answer my question. ukraine is losing. what next? oh i know...."trust the experts" like yourself huh? 🤪 FID isn't gonna win this war my son.

ukraine is losing. that is a fact. what is your plan to fix that besides throwing money at the problem? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/takeaways-volodymyr-zelensky-washington zelensky wouldn't be begging for money in DC if things were all good

Read my lips, if you’re on a Forum spouting off Russian talking points about how Ukraine belongs to them historically, or that NATO expansion justified them invading by force a sovereign nation, or insinuating the CIA ran a coup to overthrow Ukraine’s government (all points he’s tried to make) you’re a shill. Putin has expressed his interest in realigning the old Soviet satellites as vassal states. Pretending otherwise would ignore the last decade of action by him. So yeah Ukraine is as many have pointed out the stepping stone in a lone of stones already crossed leaving us with the next step having a 4/5 chance of being a NATO country. I’ve got no interest in trying to convert Bashi, I’m pointing out to the rest of the room that may think he has a point how incredibly stupid it is. Why are you suddenly trying to defend him? If he stuck to points about budget he’s fine, but he is repeating known Russian talking points advanced and stimulated across social media. And DCG would be deputy commanding general. We have one currently and he’s Polish. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk