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CK didn't become persona non grata when he took a knee; he did it when he wore socks depicting cops as pigs and a shirt idolizing Castro - even a high school education should have prevented him from that level of hypocrisy. Even at that: plenty of asshat players have still found employment when they can play serious ball: TO, Pacman Jones and Vick were a few. What sealed the deal with CK was when it became obvious that his only good season in SF was a result of a strong Harbaugh team hitting on all cylinders. He sucks, plain and simple. Maybe, if he weren't such an asshole, he could get hired as a backup. So could Johnny Football. It's not about race; it's about how much benefit you offer and at how much cost (both monetary and in terms of associated drama). His risk/reward just doesn't make sense to any team right now. That's what you get for being an a$$hole.

And the Sq/CC said, "Sir, you will have to do that because I am removing mine." Did he? And Big Blue wonders why people are bailing...

1111, Let me ask you one question. I'm an airline pilot. Let's suppose I show up to fly... in my uniform... for my company... and we take off. At level off, the seatbelt sign goes off and I begin to talk on the microphone: "Ladies and gentlemen... from the flight deck... welcome to yada, yada,... seat belt sign is off... yada, yada.... And by the way, folks, I want to tell you what I think about the current political climate in the USA, and discuss my views on the whole LGBTQ scene going on..." What do you think my airline should do to me if I decided to do that? Assuming they didn't ground me or fire me, what if I did that every flight? When Kaepernick puts on the uniform, he is there the perform for his team and represent the NFL. That's it. Play your silly game to the highest level you can. You're an employee,. Execute your job. CK's actions... on the job, and in his company uniform... are disgraceful to the company (NFL) and he should be disciplined. However, Goodell was too weak to do anything, and his "company" let him run amok. If CK wants to run his mouth and give his views when he isn't working, he has that right like anyone else. I'm not sure he really can, since he comes across as not too articulate, and not very well read. While he probably has a diploma, I seriously doubt he really developed his intellect during his college years. But while his is in the uniform of an NFL team, he represents that business. He isn't there to make "statements". Play your silly game, go home, takeoff the uniform, and then call your press conference. Yet another reason I'm glad I gave up watching NFL football in 1992.

Every time you guys post in this thread it gets people's hopes up that the AF is actually approving Palace Chase applications only to come to this thread and find nothing about Palace Chase is actually being discussed...

Lots of guys get into the military aviation business because it seems like its probably the coolest job in the military (it is), they think a flight suit will get them laid (not so much these days), or it is expected of them by a parent/sibling/etc. These are typically the people who walk away from the career, never to take the stick again. Plenty of others truly have the flying bug. These people have never imagined themselves doing anything else. For just about anyone, a flying career can be monotonous, exhausting, and a lot of hard work. But aviation is wide and varied and there is always new, cool shit to do. Learn to fly a helo, get a tailwheel endorsement, learn how to fly floats, go to Oshkosh, get in with the warbird crowd, fly gliders, and the list goes on and on. If you have the bug, you will not get tired of aviation (at least not for long). Sure, there are days when I have stepped out of the airplane feeling tired and weary and not wanting to think about flying at all. But I'm still looking at Citabrias on barnstormers the next day.

Everything I can afford is too goddamned slow and lacks radar/guns

Have you seen ops in Africa? What you're referring to is how we used to roll...specifically in A-stan and in hi-vis theaters. That's not how we roll in conflicts that the US media doesn't see or care about. If it makes it to CNN, there will be an F-16, F-22, or F-35 (heaven help us) dropping ordinance. Iraq, Syria, and A-stan are catalysts, not the intended theaters. At least that's how I hope the LAAR concept is being developed. Ok...so it's all REALLY a program to get rid of the A-10, but hopefully there is also a sincere purpose and mission for the airframe we're pursuing. ...or perhaps I'm just an idealist who refuses to quit...

The palace chase process? Hint: Its sarcasm for you to leave this thread and use the search function, not for an answer.

Don't be obtuse; the article in question was about a Kaepernick exhibit, and the objection was made about him versus what they should have in an exhibit about Thomas.

Yep, sorry - I'll PM that next time.

Do tell... This! Although, we pretty much have zero dudes staying past 20. The few that do are either leadership or only have 20 due to their enlisted time...I would look for the latter to bail at first sign of the above happening.

Oh wow. This will end well, I'm sure. Guys who are topped out at O-5 with over 20, with an outside airline gig, who are just staying around (losing money!) to fly the mission and teach the young guys, are going to bail in droves. Probably 20% of my squadron fits this demographic, and I promise you none of us will do a 6 month deployment.

WTF did I just read?

I've only talked to a couple people who knew him, but it seems like everyone who was there gets real stiff when his name is brought up. Phrasing.

I am from the Seattle area and was hired at Travis AFB in NorCal. I had some contacts in the squadron there (My dad was a C-17 pilot and he had friends from UPT at Travis flying in the reserves) so that got my foot in the door once I asked my dad if he knew anybody flying the KC-10. To prep for my interview, I found lots of questions from here in the forums, and some from airline interviews, and made a big "interview script" on google docs and just sat for an hour a few nights a week doing some "creative writing" in response to those questions. For the "tell me about yourself question" I got to the point where I knew it so well that I could add pauses and expressions into my response to make it casual and natural - I think it's the one question they expect you to have a sort of canned answer to - but want it to be from the heart. For the other questions I came up with some bullet points/trigger words so that I could make answers come quick depending on how they framed the question and stay on my toes. I think I ended up making it 6-7 pages long, I definitely over-prepared but it really paid off. If you want to PM me I'm happy to share. Another tip I have is to practice answering your questions sitting in a chair at a table, in your suit jacket or something. This helped me control my body language and fidget less, and get used to wearing a suit jacket - lots of buttons and pockets to learn to ignore. Even things like how to unbutton/button your suit jacket will make you feel like the guy in Wolf of Wall Street going in to the interview room. I'm no expert but it worked for me - I got hired at C--5s and KC-10s Friday and Saturday back to back and ended up backing out of a C-17 gig. I know I'll get shit for that - but honestly the KC-10 tugs at my heart a ton and I know that the C-17 will be around for longer than the KC-10 and that opportunity will still be there in the future. I couldn't see myself flying the C-5, the crews on trips are really big and you end up logging lots of "other" time instead of PIC/SIC. KC-10 also goes more places. Plus, it's a DC-10. However, I owe a lot to the C-5 interview for helping me go in the next day confidently - also they are super top notch guys, just not what I saw myself committing to in the end. They stood me and two other interviewees up at the end and hired all three of us on the spot - it was actually really special. Made the decision I had the next few days really tough, but I felt really lucky to get hired two places in one go.

Yes, you can apply for ANG/Reserves and AD simultaneously. My AD recruiter told me it would be a "conflict of interest," but that's a load of BS. From my understanding, you can continue to apply to guard units all the way up until OTS. You've made no commitment to anyone thus far.

That's awesome! Your score will go up quick the more you fly, if you continue your flight training to 50-60 hours I bet you'd be even more attractive to a lot of ANG/Reserve units in addition to the AD board than you already are. You should definitely keep putting apps in different places - I had my heart set on a C-17 unit and ended up seeing a KC-10 do a touch n go while I was eating lunch after a doctor appt - I called the Travis KC-10 reserves and ended up loving the people and the base and have since been hired. You never know what will sell you on a unit without visiting them or just sending in an app or email and starting a conversation.

Yes but explaining bullcrap they are trying to pull is not easy.