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obviously unsafe. previously the pilot would be shot and a commander fired. now it's celebrated. there's a middle ground to find. acknowledge the mistake, correct it, and move on.

At least the Blue Angels Lead is willing to go on the record and call this unsafe/it’s going to be debriefed and corrected. Any professional aviator (military or civilian) knows the road this is going down. I honestly don’t understand why Hegseth sees the need to insert himself into these discussions, especially given all that’s happening in the world and that lately military aviation has had several crashes, to include the Growler airshow crash.

I seriously doubt this is another Bud Holland. The Blues take safety very seriously as many here already know. "I'll fix my safeties boss I'm glad to be here"

I was trying to be a bit funny. I bet that thought crossed a few peoples minds. People chasing that disibillity rating.

Big difference between a new guy making a mistake and someone who should know better.

Really wondered how you guys would assess and all I could think about is a few things: Using "Hooyah" un-ironically should be grounds for firing. The video of the B52 doing manoeuvers and crashing. Hoping it doesn't come to that before this admin is over.

A few more details as I live here and it has been the main topic of conversation in the news and social media. This was not even a demo flight, it was a fam flight in preparation for the airshow this weekend. The jet that did the flyover was #3, NOT the solo. Important because he was not running down the showline, just trying to do an impromptu flyby as part of the rejoin and he obviously overshot the crowd line. The Boss did a local interview where he stated (paraphrasing), "it was a mistake, it was debriefed, we are moving forward with the show." One of the troubling comments came from another local press interview with #4 who said (again paraphrasing), "we are not backing off, push it up for the show this weekend." A few friends I flew with (all Navs I will point out), told me I am talking like an old guy, it was cool. I simply replied - "there is a reasons I am old guy." I FULLY understand he made a mistake and long ago I adopted the leadership tactic of a senior leader I think a lot of..."we should not electrocute an Airman over a single mistake." This is a debreif item, not an FEB or some other punishment. HOWEVER, we should not celebrate breeches or mistakes and cheer the outcome. As folks like @disgruntledemployee, such actions will only fan the flames and encourage the next guy to go lower/fast/inverted.

Oh and how’s that new round of bombing coming along? Oh right not a single thing has materially improved from a strategic perspective lmk when we bomb Kharg island and it fixes everything

What do you mean it doesn’t match the headline.. it’s literally in the first paragraph: “Israeli nationalists chanted “death to the Arabs”, “may your villages burn” and “Gaza is a graveyard” in a state-sponsored march through Jerusalem to mark the anniversary of the city’s capture and annexation.” We’re not the ones that made up the idiotic standard that societies should be judged by what people chant at random protests.. that was you.. a week ago: “And in ~75 years I have yet to see an Israeli street rally calling for death to the Muslims.” Well now you have seen one. And since we’re playing your stupid game, this one matters just as much as when gazans do it if you care at all (we know you don’t) about logical consistency. But I look forward to learning how this is totally different, or fake news, or something..

First article: Garbage. The headline doesn't match any of the actual quotes in the article. The actual quotes are much more boring. The best you have is "a few Jews at a rally said evil things." Now, if the minister with the flag had said something like "we will kill any Palestinian that prevents us from retaking the Temple Mount" then you might have something. But to try to compare this to even the now-boring "from the river to the sea" is idiotic. Second article: “There’s no such thing as ‘means, intent and ability’ in Gaza,” Vilk says. “No soldier ever mentions ‘means, intent, and ability’. It’s just: a suspicion of walking where it’s not allowed. A man aged between 20 and 40.” Nonsense. The article pretends that there was no enemy at all. Just a bunch of refugees looking for food. There's tons of footage of Hamas fighters engaging the IDF. If their repeated, documented use of civilians and civilian disguises made the IDF paranoid and trigger happy, that's a bummer, but entirely predictable. The US soldiers killed a lot of unarmed Germans as we took Europe from the Nazis. Yet no one is stupid enough (except for Tucker Carlson) to claim the allies were the bad guys. Welcome to war. Maybe your military service was so blessedly uneventful that you never saw or heard these very human things happen. Your general philosophy does usually reek of ignorant utopianism. It still doesn't make it even remotely difficult to know who the bad guys are in this situation.

I know you hate when I show up - this is your space, I get it. Here’s some light reading that refutes your main claims that I’m sure you’d like to be aware of. Next time, you can use Google to find things like this yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/14/israel-nationalists-jerusalem-day-march-anniversary-protest https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/10/israeli-soldiers-breaking-ranks-gaza-civilians-human-shields Again, sorry to be a drag.

That’s until someone complains to Pete on X and the CoC gets fired. No commander is risking their career over that.

I'd imagine there being "no reprimands" does not mean there won't be some safety review and additional training for said bro involved? Commanders have previously been fired for WAY less....

Maybe… https://theaviationist.com/2026/07/16/first-customer-next-gen-catalina-flying-boat/

It’s very low. The VA gives me TRT. https://www.va.gov/formularyadvisor/DOC_PDF/CFU_Testosterone_Replacement_in_Males_Criteria_Update_Mar2025.pdf

At least two black GOs in the USAF’s latest 1-star and 2-star list. At least 1-female in the 1-star list. I know the fact that there are no women on the Navy’s 1-star list is causing a stir but there are definitely other minorities on the list. Me thinks he’s simply removing folks who were major advocates for DEI everything in the military (and as we all know many of those happen to be minorities). Several white males were also removed from the list. Look I’m not saying I agree with Pete here as it sets a dangerous precedent when it comes to civilian control of the military influenced by politicos but some understanding of nuance here is important.

Well you made two false claims and an extremely hyperbolic one. It’s out of character, so that’s why I ask.

Ultimate TMAAT vignette…

Nope....simply outlining Pete's latest policy decisions and the opportunity for this to run off the rails.

Sarcasm?

Called it!!

Civilian leadership is absolutely setting the conditions to make it nearly impossible to hold blatant and wanton lapses in airmanship accountable. All anyone will have to do is post on social media to garner attention from on high, say, "But the public loved it!" and "What about the Blue Angels", thereby garnering a public pardon of sorts. I would not want to be a commander right now if a true case of buffoonery occurred.

Not being forced to take anything....YET. No Black Generals or Admirals. No women Generals or Admirals No Air discipline for anyone, have at it boys. Give me an Fing break ladies...

And like clock work the acting clown gives them a blessing.