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The kid is going to lose his shit if the 35's, Hornets and Vipers get the kills and he left holding a balloon (marking).

There's always at least two sides to every story. What I see is the product of someone who wasn't raise right nor trained in concealed carry correctly meeting what appear to be either poorly trained or poorly disciplined law enforcement agents. One of the things that was hammered into me in the multiple carry trainings I've done is that the first interaction you have with a law enforcement officer in the wild is stating "I'm concealed carrying" with a full description of where the weapon is while making no threatening movements. In short order I'd fully expecting to be disarmed and possibly restrained depending on the situation. I'm perfectly ok with being disarmed as it's for everyone's safety. We're on the same team: defending public safety. This guy was carrying, while recording, and then actively stepped between the police and someone they were interacting with. Wrong on so many levels. On the opposite side, 7 v 1 with one guy disarming the individual while not effectively communicating that he's done so all in the span of seconds with heated words and actions is a hell of a chaotic situation. It did not look like a well led and organized response to what had been a non-lethal event. But non-lethal goes lethal real fast. That's the end of my speculation with one caveat. I had the opportunity to do shoot/don't shoot live role playing training with sims. I failed all 5 scenarios, which is, according to the instructor, absolutely normal for a normal dude off the street. I came away knowing I needed more training. Use of force events are messy, complicated, confusing events with split-second decision making bearing life-long consequences for all involved. It convinced me that I have no place critiquing cops in shooting events. I am, however, fully convinced this is exactly the kind of event the extreme left agitators have been wanting out of all this so they can beat the drum of tyranny, get a political win by twisting the media narrative, then press their advantage once political leadership caves. It's all straight out of "Rules for Radicals: A Practical Primer for Realistic Radicals" by Saul Alinsky, which is the baseline organizers/agitator playbook. It's a disgusting abuse of ignorant, but largely innocent, protestors in the streets. The article from the marine highlighting that this is well organized and more of an insurgency than activism seems to fit the more I learn.

Lol. Of course if was it was an accidental discharge. It was a P320!

If we can only be so lucky.

Very much so... National Asset.

If the legalities of the use of force justify this shooting, then copy. However, I judge in the "totality of the situation" that the feds shit the bed here. You all have your own opinions already, but hear me out, and don't compare me with the cuck-o-saurus also posting counter points. Why the officer pushed the woman the way he did, I don't know or understand. There very well could be a previous part of the video that justifies that and I just haven't seen it. To me it looks like an over-aggressive and unnecessary escalation. Pretti trying to help her up seems like the actions of a dude who had parents that raised him right. If I was walking on the sidewalk there I may have tried to help her up myself. I don't disagree with points regarding conduct whilst one is CC. Maybe there's something I'm missing in the video here as well but that same officer had a second chance to de-escalate by letting the woman be helped up and moved off the curb. Then the rugby scrum of trying to tackle Pretti...This many dudes not being able to subdue this guy without shooting him blows me away. Trust me, I actually understand it is difficult to do this when a grown man doesn't want to be subdued, but that's their ffing job. I respect the training some of you have to analyze the appropriate employment of restraint techniques in this situation. I lack that training, so does the rest of America, so forgive me if I think these guys look like monkeys ffing a football here. I read a report that the first shot might have been an accidental discharge. Accidental discharge or on purpose, idk which one makes them look more incompetent. I agree with all of the previous points regarding outside forces pushing for this, the state not working with the feds, and Biden being retarded. The government and these agencies probably couldn't play more into the hands of the insurgent planners unless they started doing the Nazi salute.

Maybe we are over thinking about this. Maybe Xi is looking for a General that will tell him amphibious warfare is easy and he can get it done.

29s or J-10s?

Bummer

Iran now flying DCA caps...Raptor likely chomping at their bits...

Judges will probably worry about the nuanced difference. As for the average juror, they'll still have their own biases as to what they consider more relevant and will probably vote accordingly.

Doh! NASA Canberra gear up landing today.

In short - judges must now use the test of "totality of the situation" rather than what happened in a split second decision.

Cliffs notes? I can't stand that guy's videos. He always interprets rulings as way, way, way more consequential than they really are. I can't tell if he's a moron or just click baiting for more views.

Having trained police cadets as a "hobby" (volunteer work), nothing that ICE is doing isn't SOP for dealing with a mob. Note I didn't say "peaceful protest,' which IS protected by the First Amendment (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”). This is a mob and traditional escalation of force is "ask, tell, make." The use‑of‑force continuum is a framework that guides officers in selecting the appropriate level of force based on a subject’s behavior and the threat posed. It emphasizes using the least amount of force necessary to safely gain control. Step 4, Hard (Physical) Control, is used when a subject is actively resisting and includes strikes (open‑hand or closed‑fist), take‑down and pain‑compliance techniques which is what we saw here. Step 6, Deadly Force, is only allowed when an officer reasonably believes a subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious harm to the officer or others, which includes the presence of a firearm, vehicle ramming (in extreme cases) or other lethal techniques. All require Necessity, Proportionality, Reasonableness and, if possible, De‑escalation. The underlying principle is to use the least force necessary and increase only as the threat increases! As for the criticism that the officers did not immediately apply lifesaving measures on Pretti, their first priority is ensuring all threats are neutralized before doing so. So, as far as I can determine, these shootings--while tragic--are good shoots! A use‑of‑force justification is normally evaluated using the Graham v. Connor “objective reasonableness” standard, Agency‑specific policies, deadly‑force criteria and the following factors: imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm, weapon presence, subject behavior, officer perception based on training and totality of circumstances.

I think most in the country agree with this. They should be removed ASAP. I suspect somebody in the administration is briefing a daily PowerPoint slide with a removal number and the bigger the number the happier the administration. We've all been tasked in the military to brief a metric that frankly means nothing in the infinite scheme of things, but we do it because that's what the boss wants. I will say catching the bad guys is hard. ICE can probably roll up 10 illegals with just an immigration violation just trying to scratch out a living in the time it takes to track down a one really bad guy. Truthfully the bad guys know ICE has come to town and beat feet right away to Vegas while waiting for ICE to move on to another city. The locals are usually in a position to give good intelligence on the bad guys but if you make them afraid to come forward things tend to dry up. This sounds so much like a movie I lived before in faraway places. If they are criminals convicted of anything serious, they're probably already serving their sentence in prison.

Grasp at straws much? So addicted to your ideology you can't admit your prophet screwed up. New 9-0 SCOTUS ruling will impact many cases including what is currently happening in MN.

A LOT more assets have moved into place.

Looks like everything is ramping back up for the ability to strike Iran again. I wonder what the plan/outcome is.

90% of these issues would be prevented if these state/local govts would just cooperate with DHS and hand over the convicted criminals with deatiners already. It's all planned.

@Lord Ratner and @brabus already nailed it earlier. What we are seeing is useful idiots being useful. Yes, people have a right to protest and to have their voices heard, but in active law enforcement operations, law enforcement has the authority - which is something that people on the left just do not accept or comprehend. I'm not sure which. People have chat-grouped, reddited, or otherwise brained themselves into thinking that they can do whatever the hell they want and label it protesting and hence somehow legally insert themselves into some sort of "referee?" position that gets to be there calling balls and strikes, but then who also get to lightly skirmish at will when the play isn't going according to their own rule set? People have mistaken rights with license, which is a distinction that you're supposed to learn while writing civics essays in junior high school. Both Renee Good and Pretti appear to be people who never matured past their teenage rebellion years. Should either be dead? No. Do they deserve to have been killed? No. Did they engage in actions that led directly to their tragic, but justified deaths? Unfortunately, yes. I understand and accept that law enforcement is made up of people. People are imperfect. I see frat all the time in the sim. Thus, if I were to engage in such a protest, if things started to go sideways, I would immediately be completely compliant and non-threatening. You wouldn't see me struggling on the ground with 4 other officers while I was armed with a handgun. But this is also instructive as to the actual tactic and strategy being employed by the Left. Push things just far enough into the grey zone, that you provoke a violent or emotional response. Thus, Good and Pretti have done well, and served their purpose for the Left. Unfortunately, just like in 2020, this is part of a larger, coordinated operation meant to destabilize and delegitimize the government. The Federal government is helping somewhat, but then again, so is the Minnesota government. @Negat0ry is not worth responding to directly. The false equivalence between what Kyle Rittenhouse did along with whatever happened in Charlottesville is null and void right out the gate. No such struggles with law-enforcement took place. Even the terrorist MFer who ran over people at that protest in VA (useful idiot) surrendered peacefully. The difference is stark and could not be more clear. On the right, you have a true, grassroots, non-violent, response to the state abdicating its law-enforcement responsibility; the other is communist agitation which is apparently being sanctioned and coordinated by members within our government.

I'm not defending pulling a gun after the guy was on the ground and apparently disarmed. I'm also not accusing, as it all happened very quickly. Just like some of the anti-police people back in the late 90's and early 2000's that were run through police training simulators and all ended up shooting unarmed people in the sim. Easy to hit pause on a video and say 'at this exact point, the individual is no longer a threat, so the shooting that took place 1/2 second later is unjustified'. Pretti approached law enforcement in the situation where a hostile mob was developing. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that's a terrible idea. If you want to protest and film, stand on the other side of the street and use the zoom function on your phone. I'm a big 2A guy, but I also keep in mind when I'm armed and am in proximity to law enforcement and that affects my actions. If possible, I avoid being in any situation where I'm armed and within 20 feet, let alone walk up to them with a hostile attitude or insert myself into what they're doing. If the situation gets out of control and I find myself in a bad situation with law enforcement (armed or not) and they are yelling commands at me, that is not the time to show how tough I am. You comply as deliberately and calmly as possible and wait for vindication in court. To do anything else, especially while armed, is stupid and you are putting your own life at risk. Not saying that it is entirely his fault, but Pretti apparently made a series of poor decisions that put his life at the mercy of another person's single decision. A person that was likely very stressed after being constantly targeted by hostile mobs and was probably minimally trained. Or if MN as a state would cooperate with the Feds like most states are, the Feds wouldn't feel the need to do a surge like this.

Eric Shawlm is exactly right. I read a good op ed in the Washington Post that talked about where this began. The author pointed to bipartisan legislation around 2010 dealing with climate change. The groups looking for policy changes related to the issue gave up on the democratic process after the bipartisan legislation fell apart. They intentionally changed their tactics and began setting up non profits and other organizations to fund and organize radical activism to achieve their goals. Those goals aren’t limited to climate change. They intentionally use issues like racial equality (BLM riots), COVID, anti Israel/free Palestine, anti capitalism/pro socialism, anti police/defund movements, no kings, etc as excuses to cause chaos and mayhem in an effort to destabilize our system. They are very well funded and organized. There’s a second part going on beyond the riots and that is elections. Zoran in NYC is a product of this movement so is the mayor in Seattle. I think they got exactly what they wanted with these 2 shootings in Minneapolis. They know if you blow whistles, honk horns, spit on, scream through bullhorns, park your car blocking the roads, dox, threaten officers and their families and constantly interfere with law enforcement operations for days on end that you’ll eventually get an officer to make a bad split second decision. Neither of those activists had any business being there other than to be a part of the chaos. I think the Alex Pretti situation was a bad shoot. But, the chaos was designed to get that exact outcome.

Interestingly, they would ALL not have been killed if the founding fathers had never formed America. The more you think 🤔