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I suppose that includes me...T-41/T-37, and T-38 at Moody, 1967. Leaving aside the issue of airframe age, would not this type of pilot training meet the needs of today's aircraft and mission types?

Otherwise known as Grandpa's UPT.

General UPT, regular T-6 then advanced trainer phase Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What is GUPT?

Yeah, I see a snowball having a better chance in hell than the AF doing anything other than more insanity but you gotta hope / post on BO for something better than what they are planning on A resurrection of GUPT I see as possible with the right leadership & Congressional support but don’t see anyone picking up that cause Google AI says there’s 2 USAF pilots in the House, none in the Senate, need them to pick this as a pet project IPT via ESAs at private schools is the crux of this, it’s the outsourcing of arguably the most critical training in the AF, how this has not been noticed and really examined in a harsh light by interested parties I don’t get IPT taught at a military institution via mil / contract instructors under direct mil supervision could work to deliver a consistent product and one capable of a slightly abbreviated primary T-6 or like aircraft phase but that’s not in the plans right now. Fantasy IPT: 85 hours in Cirrus SR20, 25 hours Piper Seminole, 25 hours Gamebird GB1. Gamebird tail dragger would be the first taste of high performance and last hurdle to clear to set the tone for the next phases. Then FUPT for T-6 / T-7. I would still sport bitch for a ME mil trainer but with all that flying with mil and specific mil training contract instructors I think you would get a pretty strong graduate.

pretty sure they do, but the better question is did the seat have the TCTO done to replace the legacy digital sequencer with MASS?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOR7QnxgQLq/?igsh=MTB3YmMwZ2t0cDNkMg== Basically what I sent to every Gator fan I know. As dumb as it’s gotten for them, I still have more respect for them than the Bama people trying to take a victory lap off last nights pee wee football team they played against. I especially like the ones calling for targeting or unnecessary roughness on a kicker making a tackle but ignoring their guys going lights out against a guy when they were up by 60 pts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Gatornation is melting down...

Just let Napier stay through the season please.

The Air Force is trying to divest whole airframes. There wont be another trainer. The best to be hoped for is congress stops the t-6 divestment, forces a full ARP, and we go back to GUPT.

Just my two cents but joke is kinda a strong term for the T-1, concur with breadth and experience / MC-12 program AMC could fill that gap sts with a Project Liberty like new MDS, a super liaison aircraft program. All new graduates of FUPT would go there first before reporting to their FTU for their assignment awarded out of FUPT. Finishing school for Mobility pilots. Lotta reps while executing valid mission requests. Small regional airliner for routine air land support, all civilian training before their tour begins. Buy the jet with the capability to operate in low threat environments if required. Liaison, medevac, ROBE, stand off launch platform, etc.. hard points for pods for those missions, nothing deeply integrated into the existing systems, try to keep it low risk, expense to develop. E-175 E2 Freighter be an example, probably 40-60 tails. Get each pilot 75 sorties then on your way. 0.001% chance

Is it a provocative tweet...absolutely, and intentionally so. It forces the Democrats to continue defending the wrong side of an 80-20 issue to most people on the streets in big cities run by Democrats over the last century. It's curious how the last 2x times the Trump 2.0 sent in troops, in Los Angeles and D.C., Karen Bass and the LA City Council, Gavin Newsom and the CA Congress, and Muriel Bowser and the D.C. City Council, all remained in power and continue to this day in D.C. to exercise their rights and responsibilities as the duly and freely elected civilian government. I mean, if Trump wanted a takeover, he would physically remove the government and install a puppet local government, ala Iraq in 2004 under G. W. Bush in the immediate post-OIF op. I think Johnson and the fat billionaire Pritzker will be physically ok as their lie of "what else could we do?" is exposed against crime. Emotionally, they'll be slaughtered, but physically, they and their families will be fine. This experiment in freedom didn't turn to shit just because G. H. W. Bush, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Eisenhower, Woodrow Wilson, Grover Cleveland, Hayes, Grant, Lincoln, or Jackson sent in federal troops to local municipalities since 1807...lots of precedence in support of it. Until there's a direct and actual threat against elected governments, I'm less than concerned about troops moving in.

The one positive is if a T-6 only FAIP fails PIT it’s an automatic FEB waiver and they get send to the MAF

The T-1 was a joke to fly, but it still gave you breadth and additional stick-and-rudder experience. And I was further improved as a FAIP by my time in the MC-12. You already have to overcome the myopia of being a FAIP to excel in the job, and this just seems like it'll make it nearly impossible. If there's no T-1 replacement then either all FAIPs should come from T38 training or send them off to get a couple civilian type ratings. I remember some pretty disheartening decisions when I was in AETC, but I truly feel bad for the students and instructors who will have to dig us out of this mess.

Only MAF allocated T-6 FAIPs are T-6 only. CAF T-6 FAIPs are still T-38 trained. (Read better pilots) The last AETC/A3/6 signed a memo authorizing it countersigned by the HAF/A3T.

I hope Trump added Ride of the Valkyries to that as background music.

Just wanted to point out something everyone seems to gloss over with the reduced T-6 syllabi/IPT nonsense -> FTU T-6 FAIPs are now T-6 only and instructing at every base besides KSPS. Good luck everybody else!

I like the Huey five ship.

All the pilots forced to be in this video were the last to say NOT IT. The ghost of Rainman lingers...never talk to the media!

Still doesn't know how to act in public...shocking.

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They certainly do. I saw a snippet somewhere that there was a $2.1 billion contract to upgrade our T-6s over the next 10 years. Maybe we'll have T-7s showing up by then? I am obviously not read into what the contracts with the various 141 schools are, but using their locations per diem, average cost for PPL/Instrument/Multi as they have listed, the overall program cost could be north of $130 million per year. This isn't reallocated money from T-6s. It is my understanding that the truncation of the T-6 syllabus was done to reallocate hours to getting more students through. The planes are still expected to be used at the same rate, which ebbs and flows, but isn't going great.

Let’s be honest, democrats don’t care about Chicago and other once great cities that have become shitteholes because it’s mostly black Americans killing other black Americans. If the murder rate significantly increases in white and areas where politicians live, it’ll be more important. They’ll still yell “racism”, but they’ll start to care when their lives are in imminent danger.