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Miles was an awesome dude, mentor, and aviator. We lost contact over the years but I happened to see him at a fellow crewdog's wedding and it was great to catch up with him for a few hours that night. While I kept wanting to know about all the cool test stuff he got to do, he would mostly talk about what his family was doing and how proud he was of his kids. Tragic loss for his family, the Air Force, and the world in general.

Iran is a unique lone actor in the world. As outlined by a few high iq intelligence experts they have 3 dangerous characteristics that most of the other current “bad actors” don’t have. They have 1) an ideologically extremist state leadership in place, they have 2) a decently effective war fighting machine with the ability to wreak havoc in their immediate area, and 3) they have the desire to force their ideology on other nations and people groups. A dangerous trifecta that historically (recently) included nazi Germany. In case disputes of my claim arise … I am fully aware that we could also include the communist and socialist countries of Vietnam, Cambodia, N Korea, Russia/USSR, and China (they all have or had at least portions of all 3 to varying degrees). I don’t think these nations are as dogmatic as the islamists are in their attempts to burn and/or conquer foreign lands. if the leaked agreement points are valid, I’m not too pleased and hoped for much more demand and way less (none) reward or compensation. I’ll reserve full judgement until all the details are fully known (actionable plans and oversight).

Whatever makes you feel better buddy. You still didn’t answer the question (because you struggle with your arguments). Also, you’re so far off base it’s hilarious, but it does make me appreciate the internet. Remember how delusional you guys are that when a retired C-17 squadron commander came in a couple months ago with different views than the talk radio pumping into your assholes, you all literally said his account must have been compromised because you can’t COMPREHEND that you live in an echo chamber of delusion.

They don;t care...orange man bad, who give a flying F if thousands of Americans died from Iran's support of terror.

https://nypost.com/2026/06/16/us-news/first-victim-of-b-52-crash-at-edwards-air-force-base-identified/

What I don't get is, why anyone here supports/defends/thinks this deal is good (enough), let alone think that this deal satisfies the goal of all the military action/lose of life, etc. I don't get it.

You mean 13 attributable to a mass murdering radical Islamic controlled government? We have been in conflict with Iran since 1979. More Americans have died from Iran directly or indirectly than from any other country. This escalation was bound to happen eventually.

Not mad at all, just calling out frauds like yourself. Your entire “knowledge base” is built on whatever the media spews and a significant political bias. You do not have first hand knowledge and you demonstrate such a lack of understanding of classification and information ops, I doubt you’re even in the mil, or at least in a role that would actually understand these things. Specifics? The last post I replied to, and somewhere around 90%+ of your other posts in this thread alone.

Ironically those 13 are also attributable to the current admin's negotiating skills. Turns out cutting the Afghan gov out of negotiations and releasing a ton of taliban results in a cluster of a withdrawal. Does it really matter if it's literal plane fulls? Currently Iran is getting additional income via "tolls" and an alleged $25B of funds from negotiations that far exceeds the release of their own funds under Obama's deal. Tbd. The $300B figure which has been verified by our own VP is allegedly gulf state funded. It isn't released "unless they perform" which sounds a lot like the old deal we had... Just with a lot more cash. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a shell game to save face and a significant chunk of funds come from the US. The conflict itself has cost taxpayers an estimated $110B+ to date. The official figure is around $50B but that doesn't account for inflationary costs (primarily fuel) associated with the war. If you want to claim I'm lying feel free to provide some sources. But at the moment we've got: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-says-draft-us-deal-includes-oil-sanctions-waiver-nuclear-limits-asset-2026-06-14/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/jd-vance-details-us-iran-agreement-scepticism-republicans https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/27/politics/iran-war-spending-cancelled-trainings-delayed-maintenance

Because you are not telling the truth... 1. Unlike the deal with Obama we are not flying a plane full of cash to start things off, this is performance based deal. They get ZERO access to the funds until they comply with the nuclear details that have yet to be fully agreed upon. 2. There are no taxpayer dollars, again ZERO U.S. dollars. .69 seconds of GoogleFu and your argument is displayed as nonsense. It cool if you don't like this deal but when you lie to try and make you points sound better...it turns out ungood. 13 deaths...horrible, the outrage should go both ways like the other 13 you don't ever mention. Marine Corps Staff Sergeant Darin T. Hoover Marine Corps Sergeant Johanny Rosario Pichardo Marine Corps Sergeant Nicole L. Gee Marine Corps Corporal Hunter Lopez Marine Corps Corporal Daegan W. Page Marine Corps Corporal Humberto A. Sanchez Marine Corps Lance Corporal David L. Espinoza Marine Corps Lance Corporal Jared M. Schmitz Marine Corps Lance Corporal Rylee J. McCollum Marine Corps Lance Corporal Dylan R. Merola Marine Corps Lance Corporal Kareem M. Nikoui Army Staff Sergeant Ryan C. Knauss Navy Hospital Corpsman Third Class Maxton W. Soviak

I can name at least 13 directly attributable to the current admin. "Pallets of cash" conveniently ignoring that legally it was Iran's own money that had been previously locked up. And we're now looking at paying them 15x that amount immediately and 176x that amount later on. And not out of Iran's frozen funds this time but out of our own taxpayers pockets to boot. This thread is hilariously quiet while everyone waits to get their talking points on how what I outlined above is actually the checkmate move in trump's 4d chess game and not what it is at face value. Total capitulation and global embarrassment.

Okay sure, let’s go back to one a few years ago where they loaded a C-17 full of cash for Iran and called it good. How many Americans have died at the hands of Iran since?

Unfortunately, Checks. "...B-52 had a mixed crew of military service members, government civilians, and contractors supporting the test mission", said Col. James Hayes, deputy commander of the 412th Test Wing at Edwards. Air & Space Forces MagazineEight Dead in B-52 Crash at EdwardsEight people who were aboard a B-52 bomber died in a fiery crash shortly after takeoff June 15 at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif.

20 years ago, PBD-720 announced the retirement of the U-2. I was interviewed in the press and said "the last U-2 pilot isn't out of elementary school yet". I should have said "the last U-2 pilot isn't out of kindergarten yet". https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2006/01/04/Pentagon-to-retire-U-2-spy-plane/88231136416087/

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Guessing they had some test engineers...terrible loss.

Eight confirmed dead. Him Him 🥃

8 on board

Don't think so, that is the bird that has been testing the new AESA.

Testing the new engines? Supposed to start this year.

Fire truck slowly rolls around, chooses what to spray, then let's her water rip.

Fingers crossed they punched but those photos and videos don’t look good.

Fuck...looks like right on the runway too? Overhead footage shows there's nothing left. Low airspeed and low altitude are not good at all for the upstairs guys getting out. I don't even want to imagine about the N/RN.

Prayers to the crew. https://www.fox13now.com/us-news/military/b-52-crashes-at-edwards-air-force-base-in-california

I wish we'd be alive 150+ years from now to (hopefully) get a look at this period with (again, hopefully) clearer eyes on the totality of the last decade in relief. I think the Biden pardons now make sense given the multi-failed indictments from the DoJ. I thought it was shitty at the time, and while I still don't agree (bad policy, worse precedent) I understand. I'm expecting tons of pardons and an attempt at a self pardon out of the current admin. Always appreciate your comments even if we disagree.