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Just to clarify, contrary to my roadside gameplan, I would enthusiastically submit to breathalyzer offered on a jetbridge. Fun story: Pilot is on his way home from a trip, gets a call from a CP asking why he refused his random test. Fast forward several years, and lots of litigation, turns out that the minimum wage, non-English speaker with a clipboard didn’t get the job done that day. I’m guessing that the award didn’t make up for the lost income, and stress of having to litigate the case. Unfortunately he was over 65 when the case finally finished.

Out of curiosity, I looked into the FAA side - as Arg mentioned, refusing any test is going to fuck you out of your medical for a while (length of time seems nebulous based on unpredictable speed of bureaucracy). I completely understand the perspectives above, just know your airline job is on hold for probably 6+ months if you refuse any test. No idea how the company would handle this (treated as disability, med leave, leave of absence without pay, double secret probation, etc?) That’s a real gut check in the moment.

Just got to PIT, but this seems like its a foregone conclusion at this point. AETC/19AF aren't running FUPT as an experiment. This is the new reality, so deal with it. Sent from my SM-S936U using Tapatalk

It's a tough call. The FAA takes your medical(?) for a year.

OA-1K drops are to OKANG studs so they know what they’re getting! Not available to AD yet.

Guess he should’ve just taken the breathalyzer.

As the saying goes Boulder is 26 square miles surrounded by reality.

If wanted high capacity magazines and to buy an AR-15, I’d go back home to Cheyenne, WY to do it where I can since it’s legal and cheaper. Show me a CO law where a minor can dictate the healthcare of themselves without parental consent? What I meant was Douglas County is still clean, people still get arrested and go to jail/prison for committing crimes, and the migrants wanting to wash your windshield at intersections and harass people doesn’t exist…unlike Denver. Douglas County is also one of the wealthiest counties in the U.S., so all the pronoun-obsessed younger Millennials and Gen Z progressives can’t afford to live there, which is a great thing.

Yeah they're making the heavy guys find out their ops unit after the FTU now. Recent change.

If the Lt only wants to fly and doesn’t care about promotion, it's a good gig. Flying a hands-on aircraft for a few years then switching to another MWS (assuming they cancel the mission) doesn't sound too bad (once again if the Lt doesn't care about making rank).

"Listen man, we're just going to run a few tests so that I can establish that you're safe to drive. It won't take too long, and you'll be on your way." Enter, the Drug Recognition Expert. Blow zero? Yeah, doesn't matter. For further Google fun, look up the 600+ sober DUI arrests in Tennessee. BREAK BREAK: Just to pull this discussion back on subject. On the side of the road, about the time when the cop starts with the small-talk questions (which are not small talk), I'm limiting my answers, and I will quickly establish that I don't consent to searches or roadside tests. On the jetbridge is another story. The rules of evidence are different, and I'm more concerned at that moment with my fitness to fly and further employment, in that proximal priority.

I could understand the -135 since who wants to go to McConnnell? In the C-17 world Altus is the worst base for that community, flying wise. They have Hickman, Charleston, McChord, Travis, Elmendorf, McGuire, Dover, etc.

If a cop is asking you to do FST, he already thinks you’re going to fail. He’s just looking for more proof.

Because you are already committed to a ton of ass pain/time lost once a cop asks you to perform FST/breathalizer. Ever hear of them letting someone off when they pass? They already think you’re under an influence so any engagement at all will only serve to increase their SA collection from which they will subjectively select more items to justify the conclusion they’ve already reached. So you now have several hours of dick pain in front of you. Accept that, and position yourself for maximum advantage by demanding blood draw. You cannot win FST or Breathalizer. Cops are trained to tell you lies and it’s legal: “hey just blow in this for me and we’ll have you on your way” or “you seem fine to me but our new policy is everyone does a few FST items just to be sure we’re all safe, it’s just policy & it’ll be quick.” Nope, fights on, maneuver accordingly. Speak the absolute minimum required, stay in your circle, tell them blood draw if detained on suspicion of DUI. Regardless of your sobriety, you are in danger.

Serious question - why if you know you’re sober (zero drinks that day)? Aren’t you going to buy yourself a ton of asspain/time lost for no reason?

And that right there is always the best answer in those kinds of scenarios. We are no longer a functional crew. It's either him/her/xe or me.

My girlfriends parents in 77 saying Boulder is hipster but not worried about it. They're harmless.

Refuse the FST and the breath, even if your'e stone cold sober. Every lawyer will tell you that.

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One more from Roger Alan Wade

Never volunteer for anything like that. If you're not absolutely required to take the breathalyzer, don't do it. If a cop tells you it'll go better for you if you step out of the car and do a quick sobriety test, don't do it. Way to many chances for a bad instrument in the breathalyzer and if a cop ask you do to a field sobriety test, it's because he already thinks you're drunk. Then he's going to be the judge of if you are drunk while giving you tests that the vast majority of the population will fail every time. And if I take a required breathalyzer and it fails, I'm going to instantly, constantly, and loudly demand a blood draw.

So you can still buy high capacity magazines, an AR-15 without the 'safety course', and prevent your kid from 'transitioning' in Douglas County?

Willing to bet they’ll find their ops unit after they finish initial qual. We started doing the same thing at Kirtland. We did it because practically nobody wants to go to Cannon, so students were shying away from those drops. No idea if it’s a similar thought process, or it some staff Bob decided it would somehow promote synergistic effects in a perfect world.