BashiChuni 1,057 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryder1587 6 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Not a good week for aviation. This these crashes it makes me wonder what the AIB was for the rash of crashes last year. Anyone remember them all ? I remember a C model overseas. And maybe a 35 for the Marines ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brickhistory 998 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Time to retire the F-35. Amiright? 3 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuggyU2 2,077 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Should definitely look at putting a stop to night landings on training sorties. Too much risk. Edited May 20, 2020 by HuggyU2 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PitchTrimmer 5 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said: Should definitely look at putting a stop to night landings on training sorties. Too much risk. You jest but I was surprised to see night landings in the new T-6 syllabus... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mp5g 45 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Let’s hope the Chinese only attack during day, vmc conditions. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimNtexas 103 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 hours ago, HuggyU2 said: Should definitely look at putting a stop to night landings on training sorties. Too much risk. Is there something about the F-35 that makes night landings more risky than other airplanes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SurelySerious 988 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, JimNtexas said: Is there something about the F-35 that makes night landings more risky than other airplanes? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeHoler 814 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Is there something about the F-35 that makes night landings more risky than other airplanes?Yes. It is very susceptible to sarcasm. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danger41 1,191 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 22 hours ago, SurelySerious said: Are you kidding? This baby is off the charts! 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bender 251 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 You jest but I was surprised to see night landings in the new T-6 syllabus...Which syllabus do you mean, and why would you be surprised night landings are in it?~Bendy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hopefulflyer389 162 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 2:53 PM, mp5g said: Let’s hope the Chinese only attack during day, vmc conditions. #COVID-19 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brickhistory 998 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hopefulflyer389 said: #COVID-19 Man, it is going to be tough as hell for the Aggressors to employ this inside 6' while maintaining their block(s). Edited May 22, 2020 by brickhistory 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fox two 36 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) On 5/20/2020 at 4:14 AM, Ryder1587 said: Not a good week for aviation. This these crashes it makes me wonder what the AIB was for the rash of crashes last year. Anyone remember them all ? I remember a C model overseas. And maybe a 35 for the Marines ? You mean an SII that says "stop f*cking up" doesn't actually do shit? Edited May 23, 2020 by fox two 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sprkt69 205 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, fox two said: You mean an SII that says "stop f*cking up" doesn't actually do shit? I can almost hear the Generals claims of “But I told them to stop messing up!” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08Dawg 189 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sprkt69 said: I can almost hear the Generals claims of “But I told them to stop messing up!” Standing by for another “aircrew discipline” video... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ch33s3 1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2020/10/05/eglin-f-35-crash-resulted-from-tired-distracted-pilot-and-unresponsive-tail-glitch-investigators-find/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=Socialflow+AIR&utm_medium=social So he "experienced cognitive degradation" but also "a previously unknown flight control logic glitch" that left him without pitch control? Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim 121 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Looks like someone leaked something-something to this "journalist". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Checksix 3 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The AIB has also been released for this event, so I guess they could have read that? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ViperMan 269 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 "The pilot noticed something was wrong with his helmet-mounted display, suggesting it was misaligned in relation to the horizon. The pilot cross-checked his virtual heads-up display and instrument landing system data, and visually adjusted his aim point and glide slope toward the runway’s threshold." Root cause: F-35 doesn't have a HUD. " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HuggyU2 2,077 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ViperMan said: Root cause: F-35 doesn't have a HUD." Say again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1:1:1 6 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, ViperMan said: "The pilot noticed something was wrong with his helmet-mounted display, suggesting it was misaligned in relation to the horizon. The pilot cross-checked his virtual heads-up display and instrument landing system data, and visually adjusted his aim point and glide slope toward the runway’s threshold." Root cause: F-35 doesn't have a HUD. " Valid for pointing out the stupidity of not mounting a gunsight on a.... gun, but I'm pretty sure a no-hud ILS capability exists. I'd say root cause is touching down at > 200 knots. https://www.afjag.af.mil/Portals/77/AIB-Reports/2020/May/Eglin AFB F35A AIB Report_Signed.pdf "The AIB President found, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the mishap was caused first, by the MA touching down at 202 KCAS, and second, by the MA flight control surfaces, namely the tail of the aircraft, conflicting with the MP inputs upon landing, resulting in the MP’s inability to recover from the aircraft oscillation." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TreeA10 545 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The most basic aviation skill after takeoff is landing the jet. I guess the $400,000+ helmet just isn't adequate to make that happen. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RyanRC187 2 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 10 hours ago, ViperMan said: "The pilot noticed something was wrong with his helmet-mounted display, suggesting it was misaligned in relation to the horizon. The pilot cross-checked his virtual heads-up display and instrument landing system data, and visually adjusted his aim point and glide slope toward the runway’s threshold." Root cause: F-35 doesn't have a HUD. " It has a vHUD which is displayed on the glass. So it does have a "virtual HUD." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BashiChuni 1,057 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) so he landed via a prohibited maneuver? (speed hold enabled) "The pilot pulled back on the stick and hit full afterburners to try to abort the landing. But with the stabilizers pointing down, his effort to take off again was unsuccessful and he was forced to bail out." that's terrifying to me that the computer could overrule the pilot trying to go around!\ "And he had several things on his mind, the report said, including a positive COVID-19 test of a contact of a contact that might require him to quarantine, which contributed to his task over-saturation." - really? Edited October 6, 2020 by BashiChuni 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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