Inertia17 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, euser said: I've heard from one of my 38 buddies that getting faip'd to T-6s as a T-38 stud isn't good for the fighter career. From what I understand it's sort of a derail from fighters. Getting FAIP'd in general apparently closes a few doors (Weapons School for example, or at least makes it more difficult), but it seems most of the T-6 FAIP's who flew T-38s in UPT are heading to fighters now. As for T-38 vs T-6 FAIP, as with anything it is a bit of luck and timing as well. There could be a dude who would be a great FAIP, but there isn't a slot for T-38 PIT available to the Sq at the time, so they end up in the T-6 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Previous 2 posts are wrong. In my WIC class, there were at least 2 T-6 FAIPs going through fighter courses. Being a T-6 vs T-38 FAIP has no bearing on follow on assignments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia17 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Danger41 said: Previous 2 posts are wrong. In my WIC class, there were at least 2 T-6 FAIPs going through fighter courses. Being a T-6 vs T-38 FAIP has no bearing on follow on assignments. Definitely glad to hear that FAIP doesn't make it impossible to go to Weapons School. A number of people had mentioned it is much more difficult being 4 years 'behind' as far as time in your MWS goes, is this true? Edited August 9, 2017 by Inertia17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skosh Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, Danger41 said: Previous 2 posts are wrong. In my WIC class, there were at least 2 T-6 FAIPs going through fighter courses. Being a T-6 vs T-38 FAIP has no bearing on follow on assignments. There are also 3 FAIPs in my TPS class... F-16, B-1, and C-130 backgrounds. I think they were all T-6 FAIPs. Definitely didn't hurt their applications to have 1000+ instructor hours in a different airframe than their primary MWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runr6730 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 4:26 PM, Fish_burger said: KCBM 17-13 T38 F35, Luke T6 FAIP x2 F16, Luke A10, Davis-Monthon T1 C130H, Patrick (Reserve) C130H, Illinois ANG RC-135 C130J, Little Rock C130J, Yokota C17, Travis C17, Hickam C21, Ramstein HC130J, Moody E3, Tinker T1 FAIP C17, Dover C146, Duke No tankers dropped at any of those three bases? I don't think I've ever seen that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Inertia17 said: Definitely glad to hear that FAIP doesn't make it impossible to go to Weapons School. A number of people had mentioned it is much more difficult being 4 years 'behind' as far as time in your MWS goes, is this true? Significantly more difficult, but as danger pointed out, not impossible. For those who have a realstic chance, the general hurdle is not skill/potential, it's time line and getting to the required level before time runs out. Edited August 9, 2017 by brabus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Don't worry, the opportunity for these types of qualifications will increase greatly as the applicant pool shrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSky Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) XL 18-06 Track 7 T-38 (1 International) 1 TH-1 Remainder T-1s Edited August 13, 2017 by LiquidSky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBowl Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 XL 17-14 T-38s F-16 - Holloman F-15C - Klamath Falls T-6 FAIP B-52 - Barksdale F-35 - Luke F-16 - Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachtx Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 KEND 17-14 T-6 FAIP T-38 FAIP B-1 Dyess B-52 Barksdale A-10 Davis Monthan F-16 Luke F-15C (x2) Klamath Falls F-15E Seymour Johnson KC-10 Travis C-17 Elmendorf C-17 Charleston MC-130J Kadena C-146 Duke EC-130H Davis Monthan U-28 (x2) Cannon C-21 Scott C-130H (x2) ANG I think that's it...might have missed one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Vance T-38 x1 T-38 FAIP x1 F-15E x1 F-16 x2 F-15C x1 A-10 x1 B-1 x1 B-52 T-1's x1 T-6 FAIP x1 C-17 Elmo x1 MC-130 Kadena x2 U-28 x1 C-146 (Reservist) x1 C-130 Puerto Rico (Guard) x1 C-17 Charleston Can't remember the rest as I was fairly inebriated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Columbus T-38 x1 T-38 FAIP x1 F-15E x1 B-52 x2 F-16 x1 A-10 Columbus T-1 x2 U-28 x1 MC-130 x1 E-3 x1 E-8 x2 C-17 (maybe more) x2 C-130 (maybe more) x3 KC-135 x1 T-1 FAIP x1 T-6 FAIP x1 LC-130 I don't remember the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 EN 17-08 Active F-35A x 2 F-15E x 2 A-10C x 1 F-15C x 1 T-38C FAIP x 1 B-52 x 2 B-1B x 1 Guard/Reserve A-10C x 1 F-22A x 1 Foreign Danish F-16 x 3 Norwegian F-16 x 5 Italian Tornado x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trons513 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Apparently some of the T-1 studs who recently tracked were told that they should expect bombers in their drop. Has anyone else heard anything similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, 172 wannabe said: Apparently some of the T-1 studs who recently tracked were told that they should expect bombers in their drop. Has anyone else heard anything similar? That's been the rumor for as long as I've been a FAIP, seen it once and it was a joint spouse setup. Also a good rumor is that the KC-46 is gonna drop soon (been hearing that one since I was a stud). Edited September 10, 2017 by YoungnDumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Quick question, and please refrain from the " Jersey jokes". I notice that over the past few years there are very few McGuire C-17 assignments dropped. I know other bases have more airframes, but I'm just curious why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 18 hours ago, Vito said: Quick question, and please refrain from the " Jersey jokes". I notice that over the past few years there are very few McGuire C-17 assignments dropped. I know other bases have more airframes, but I'm just curious why. You've got to look into that Situation ASAP 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Solid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE36 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 CBM 17-15 Drop T-38 F22 T6 F16 NJ Guard 2x International F15 and Typhoon T-1 AD KC135 McConnell U28 Cannon Mc130 Cannon C130 Little Rock C130 Yokota C5 Travis 2x Kc10 McGuire & Travis C17 Charleston T6 UH-60 International T1 Guard and Reserve C130 Maxwell Kc135 Niagra Falls, Pittsburg, Topeka C17 Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachtx Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 KEND 17-15 L-159 Iraq T-6 Iraq Eurofighter Saudi Arabia F-16 Luke B-52 Barksdale MC-130J Kadena KC-10 McGuire KC-10 (x2) Travis C-130H (x2) ANG (Minneapolis-St. Paul) U-28 Cannon T-1 FAIP C-130J Little Rock F-15C Kingsley Field B-1B Dyess T-38 Aggressor Tyndall F-15E Seymour-Johnson KC-135 MacDill KC-135 Fairchild T-6 FAIP CV-22 Hurlburt Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Looks like the "everyone gets a fighter" thing is winding down...maybe the AF realized you can't just throw bodies at the pipeline and expect it to work smoothly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, YoungnDumb said: Looks like the "everyone gets a fighter" thing is winding down...maybe the AF realized you can't just throw bodies at the pipeline and expect it to work smoothly? Give it about 3 years and they will try it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Word on the street is that classes who just track selected (so within the last six weeks or so, give or take) are being told that they can expect the bomber drops from T-1s that were talked about so extensively a few months ago. Maybe that's just the rumor mill, or maybe it's taken this long to get the ball rolling on that idea. As for the reduced fighter drops, at least at CBM a lot of that lately is due to T-38 guys washing into the next class. That's been happening somewhat erratically as I understand it, so some classes' 38 drops look smaller since they might've lost some of their own guys but didn't gain any from the previous class. Edited September 17, 2017 by Ulysses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Ulysses said: Word on the street is that classes who just track selected (so within the last six weeks or so, give or take) are being told that they can expect the bomber drops from T-1s that were talked about so extensively a few months ago. Maybe that's just the rumor mill, or maybe it's taken this long to get the ball rolling on that idea. As for the reduced fighter drops, at least at CBM a lot of that lately is due to T-38 guys washing into the next class. That's been happening somewhat erratically as I understand it, so some classes' 38 drops look smaller since they might've lost some of their own guys but didn't gain any from the previous class. Reference my earlier post about T-1's and bombers. It's been a rumor since I was a student, hell we even had an O-5 type say it was happening a year ago. Fair enough on CBM bubbas, but if you look at Vance as well instead of 9 fighters its more like 4 or so with others going to bombers or other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) BL: if you hear a rumor that bombers are going to start dropping to Tones, believe it when you see it. If you hear a rumor that RPAs are going to start dropping again. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Edited September 17, 2017 by BFM this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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