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PROPORTIONALITY is key here. While civilian casualties are an unfortunate reality of war, it is still not ok to commit murder. Have a look at the multitude of evidence of Russians executing civilians

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Here are some interesting things I've picked up working heavily in NATO/Europe. Really opened my aperture for how I see the world.  1.) Europeans do not see the US as the winners of WW2. They bel

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“Environmentally unsound” is definitely built for the European audience. Think they’re talking about the fuel dumping or the resultant littering and… littering and… smoking the Reaper?

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On 2/19/2024 at 8:42 AM, brabus said:

We’ve already checked the persecution and imprisonment containers, just have death in prison left to go. 

Yeah that’s horseshit. 
 

did ya get some gold shoes?

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Eh, it was a bit tongue in cheek, but there is plenty of political persecution going on in our country. Not saying it’s of comparison to many terrible examples throughout world history, but it is pretty damn bad relative to our own post-revolutionary war history.

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Post Revolution we more or less exiled any Loyalists, the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts criminalized being critical of the government, Lincoln threw critics of the Federal government into military jails without trial and/or banished them to the Confederacy and Canada, Woodrow Wilson jailed political opponents, McCarthy era, etc., etc. We are not at any new peak in terms of political persecution.

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Anyone who thinks the USA is overly racist or that our government is a big offender for persecuting people due to political views or political speech…I highly encourage you to visit ::waives hands around wildly:: almost any other country.

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On 2/19/2024 at 6:49 PM, ecugringo said:

Russian pilot that defected murdered in spain

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-pilot-defected-ukraine-mi-225126196.html

If you defect from Mother Russia, go to Argentina, there are still Nazi's down there. 

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@Stoker great points and good historical refresher. Perhaps we’re just in a cycle that currently is somewhat like the red scare…emotionally biased to hate others that we suspect to not be carbon copies of ourselves. 
 

@nsplayr Yes, but the old “well it could be worse” argument is not a very good one. Never has been…despite the fact I say it to my kids!

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2 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Anyone who thinks the USA is overly racist or that our government is a big offender for persecuting people due to political views or political speech…I highly encourage you to visit ::waives hands around wildly:: almost any other country.

I was vacationing in Australia last week and the taxi driver from the airport asked if the “the black monkey Americans were causing all the crimes in the U.S.?”

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2 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

I was vacationing in Australia last week and the taxi driver from the airport asked if the “the black monkey Americans were causing all the crimes in the U.S.?”

Here’s the clip from that interaction.

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6 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Anyone who thinks the USA is overly racist or that our government is a big offender for persecuting people due to political views or political speech…I highly encourage you to visit ::waives hands around wildly:: almost any other country.

What we were and what we have become is worse by almost every objective measure I can think of.

  • Crime
  • Social cohesion
  • Life-span
  • Cost of living
  • Marriage rates
  • Physical and mental health

and so on and so on...we're not improving, we're getting worse. So the answer to the question "is the glass half full or half empty" depends on whether or not it's leaking or being filled up. We're half-empty. And yeah, to address your point, yes, our government is more racist now than at anytime in my entire life -  more than 40 years.

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Great reference

If you’re looking for ~36 hours of road-trip material, it’s available on YouTube and Spotify.


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10 hours ago, Lawman said:


If you’re looking for ~36 hours of road-trip material, it’s available on YouTube and Spotify.


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I've got it on 'tape'.  Read the paperback a few times way back in 92 and then a few times since then.  Have since transitioned to 'tape' and have listened to the classics a few more times. 

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10 hours ago, uhhello said:

I've got it on 'tape'.  Read the paperback a few times way back in 92 and then a few times since then.  Have since transitioned to 'tape' and have listened to the classics a few more times. 

We talkin Red Storm Rising?

Phenomenal book. 

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We talkin Red Storm Rising?
Phenomenal book. 

There is a guy on YouTube taking the audio book and making videos out of DCS with it.

All it does is further build my rabid demand to make a miniseries out of that book.


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