Russian Ukraine shenanigans

[DirkDiggler]

6 hours ago, Prozac said:

Looks like a possible setup/PR trap by the Russians. Standing by for Russian state media headline: ‘Ukrainian Nazi Regiment Slaughters Civilians in Mariupol’ with associated photos/video of burning civilian vehicles. 

Possible, but I doubt it.  If you look close at the end there’s about 6-9 Russian pigs with Russian uniforms/weapons getting snuffed out.  Seems lately like the Russians are barely trying to justify their actions; I don’t think the “de-Nazify” horseshit is getting traction with anyone.

[Prozac]

54 minutes ago, DirkDiggler said:

Possible, but I doubt it.  If you look close at the end there’s about 6-9 Russian pigs with Russian uniforms/weapons getting snuffed out.  Seems lately like the Russians are barely trying to justify their actions; I don’t think the “de-Nazify” horseshit is getting traction with anyone.

They’ll pick and choose the footage & stills they decide to show. Probably won’t fool many in the west, but the domestic audience is an important one for Putin and a good portion of them seem to be willing to choke down whatever story the state serves them. Hopefully things will change as Russian soldiers fail to return home, store shelves continue to get barer, and upper middle class & rich Russian citizens continue to have their travel privileges curtailed. Even domestic travel will eventually become difficult as Russian airlines struggle to maintain the hundreds of aircraft they have essentially stolen from western leasing companies. 

[DirkDiggler]

Ukrainians bagged a couple more Russian helos today.

[ClearedHot]

The casualties continue to mount and the numbers are staggering. 

In 60 days Russian has suffered 30,000 casualties, 10,000 of which are KIA.  For context that is four time what the U.S. lost in Afghanistan in 20 YEARS.

I read a report yesterday that said Russia has lost 25% of its combat power.

 

[dream big]

30 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

The casualties continue to mount and the numbers are staggering. 

In 60 days Russian has suffered 30,000 casualties, 10,000 of which are KIA.  For context that is four what the U.S. lost in Afghanistan in 20 YEARS.

I read a report yesterday that said Russia has lost 25% of its combat power.

 

How much longer until Putin’s generals pull a Julius Caesar on him? Most Russians don’t want this war. 

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, dream big said:

How much longer until Putin’s generals pull a Julius Caesar on him? Most Russians don’t want this war. 

He has already purged some military folks, I have to imagine his circle is shrinking.

[Sua Sponte]

Really interesting podcast interview with financier Bill Browder on Putin.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stay-tuned-with-preet/id1265845136?i=1000558237592

[fire4effect]

18 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

He has already purged some military folks, I have to imagine his circle is shrinking.

I have no idea what kind of system they have in place to control their nukes but I hope the people in that chain aren't insane enough to launch no matter what the inner circle decides.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Seems there's been some massive industrial fires at key infrastructure sites over the past few days.  The kind that grinds Russia's ability to make missile propellants, chemicals, solvents, etc to a halt.  That they can't now import due to sanctions.

Real shame.

[StoleIt]

Looks like the Ukrainian's get to claim another SU-33.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1600799/Russian-aircraft-hitting-ground-Ukrainian-strike-Kharkiv-explosion-video-vn?fbclid=IwAR3rNASU7J1ZpFFb-MsGS4sWdcNVtBLj3EMMr9Fv3LjWQmaVhMtTnW9Er2k

[ClearedHot]

 

[ecugringo]

Explosions in Moldova

 

Attacks Begin in New Country as Russia Warns Nuclear Threat Is ‘Real’ (yahoo.com)

[fire4effect]

Documents reveal bin Laden's bid for American support - 60 Minutes - CBS News

This was a good piece on what came out of the SSE of Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan. I could have put this in the Afghanistan thread but I think its relevant to how another megalomaniac completely misjudged a country and world reaction to his attack. 

[ClearedHot]

U.S. intel helped Ukraine protect air defenses, shoot down Russian plane carrying hundreds of troops

[fire4effect]

14 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

U.S. intel helped Ukraine protect air defenses, shoot down Russian plane carrying hundreds of troops

Damn. Interesting how this plays is Mother Russia.

[BashiChuni]

none of this shit is good or in our interests to continue escalating this war

[pawnman]

21 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

none of this shit is good or in our interests to continue escalating this war

I don't think it's in our interests to sit back while large countries invade smaller ones.

[BrightNeptune]

21 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

none of this shit is good or in our interests to continue escalating this war

It is good and in the interest of a whole lot of people to continue escalating this war.

Imagine how much more money Lockheed, L3, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Boeing, Northrop, and others could make if this carried on forever! It's great for them and the politicians they pay!

[BashiChuni]

15 minutes ago, pawnman said:

I don't think it's in our interests to sit back while large countries invade smaller ones.

such a poor argument. countries invade other countries all the time. it's not our interest to be involved in policing these actions. fuck man our track record post WWII has been a disaster

[DirkDiggler]

  Good video of Russians burning courtesy of Her Majesty.

[BashiChuni]

18 minutes ago, pawnman said:

I don't think it's in our interests to sit back while large countries invade smaller ones.

and if you think that way you better be prepared to go all the way with a full blown US/Russia war. are you down for that mr. tough talk guy? cause one miscalculation and it's on. you ready for it? willing to trade a few nukes back and forth for Ukraine?

a country NONE of you bozos cared about jan 1st?

 

such reckless thinking from you.

Edited April 26, 2022 by BashiChuni

[pawnman]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

and if you think that way you better be prepared to go all the way with a full blown US/Russia war. are you down for that mr. tough talk guy? cause one miscalculation and it's on. you ready for it? willing to trade a few nukes back and forth for Ukraine?

a country NONE of you bozos cared about jan 1st?

 

such reckless thinking from you.

After watching Russias conventional military, I'm not convinced they can get their nukes airborne.

[Blue]

1 hour ago, pawnman said:

nukes

Yup, that there is the rub, isn't it.

They don't need to get all their nukes airborne to cause a big ruckus.  Or even some of their nukes.

They just need one.

[Hunter Rose]

The fear of nuclear escalation will ALWAYS be there. However, at some point we'll have to face Russia and China and demonstrate where the line is. To me, Russia did us the favor by invading Ukraine. Now is the time to teach them a lesson.  One that hopefully China pays attention to and learns at the same time.  The West and the free world seem to be waking up to the fact that Russia and China are not our friends, and welcoming them into and allowing them to reap the benefits of the free world will do nothing to assuage them.

Put simpler: F@&k Russia, and F@&k China.

Edited April 27, 2022 by Hunter Rose

[Pooter]

Considering they just tested an ICBM.. pretty sure they can get some nukes airborne. Obviously we are all happy to see Russia display massive incompetence, but that doesn't mean we can write off all of their nuclear capes because they can't effectively coordinate the ground invasion of a whole country. 
 

While it sucks for Ukraine, the status quo (without escalation) is actually pretty good for us right now. Keep funneling weapons, chipping away at russias military/reputation/world standing all while milking this absolute intel goldmine.