23 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Jonathan Taylor Thomas?

This one. Zero stars. Do not recommend. IYKYK

Definitely not the child. You're a little weird bro.

22 hours ago, brabus said:

@No One You're not wrong. However, my distaste for this article is far more general - the fact an American company is happy to put out propaganda for the enemy. That is morally corrupt and wrong, even if not illegal in the law’s eyes. In closing, those Wapo douche bags.

Someone writing something you don’t like doesn’t make it propaganda. Someone writing something anti administration doesn’t make it propaganda. Nor does it make it morally wrong.

As Teddy Roosevelt said, Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country.

You probably are also initially upset that the NYT has correctly ID’d Chinese perceptions that the US are making poor strategic choices. Like expending half of our cruise missile inventory.

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I’d reassess. It is a fact that the American people - who live in a democratic republic - deserve to know what their country is doing and have a right to impact that course.

As a reminder, the Iran war is at a -20 point net favorability in this country. It is not the duty of the media to propagandize every state action and return favorability. That’s what happens in North Korea and Iran.

I’d also reflect and realize that you have no counters at all to the factuality of the articles. You just attack that they exist - precisely because you can’t point out how they are wrong. It is the mark of someone who does not have a valid counter argument to devolve to calling something they don’t like propaganda.

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, eh?

10 minutes ago, Negat0ry said:

Someone writing something you don’t like doesn’t make it propaganda. Someone writing something anti administration doesn’t make it propaganda. Nor does it make it morally wrong.

Let’s start with the definition of propaganda: “ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause.”

Whose cause are they furthering and whose cause are they attempting to damage? There are easy, obvious answers to those questions.

Additionally, it is written and curated to push a narrative that Iran has dealt significant blows to the US, the US has been decently hurt/licking its wounds, etc. That implied narrative is not accurate at all. There is also some 100% false stuff in it - but obviously nobody is confirming that publicly due to classification/opsec. Overall, the narrative is very misleading at best, and actually full up false in some instances (but, I won’t say the false parts are purposeful, as a journalist/think tank talking out their ass is nothing new).

There’s the right, patriotic thing to do, and then there’s this bullshit. The fact you can’t see the difference is not surprising, but still disappointing.

Would the WaPo reporting be any different with a Democrat administration? Was there outage at the Afghanistan withdrawal with 13 killed by a VBIED? The killing of an ambassador in Libya? I don't recall the published moral outage or pronouncements of national failure for those or any other Democrat admin led military action.

20 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

Would the WaPo reporting be any different with a Democrat administration? Was there outage at the Afghanistan withdrawal with 13 killed by a VBIED? The killing of an ambassador in Libya? I don't recall the published moral outage or pronouncements of national failure for those or any other Democrat admin led military action.

Probably.. but also other than bickering about partisanship why does it matter? Facts are facts. Those assets were struck by Iran and now we don't have them anymore. Trying to tease out the argument here.. is it: "wapo was soft on hillary/benghazi/biden, therefore current factual reporting is invalid?" Or is it: "other things were clown shows too so that makes this one fine?"

Anyways.. just doing my occasional check in to see how our victory lap is going

strait: still closed

regime: still in power

iranian people: still oppressed

tbm capability: still intact

nuclear material: still at large

deal with iran: still nonexistent despite claims they're desperate for one

ceasefire: continual rolex on the deadline, also not even really a ceasefire

gas prices: worse than last time I was here

Just so tired of all the winning guys, but please by all means tell me how my TDS invalidates all these basic facts

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