nunya Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Maybe, maybe not. I think Amazon signing the checks and negotiating the contracts would be even worse for labor than ABX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, nunya said: Maybe, maybe not. I think Amazon signing the checks and negotiating the contracts would be even worse for labor than ABX. Considering their recent pullout from New York when they got taken to task about their anti-labor pre-reqs, I'd wager to guess you're right about and airline pilots labor groups' fate under their rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 hours ago, torqued said: Andrew Yang made some great points Can't wait for my monthly $1000 check because I've been replaced by a robot. Yang’s plan is dead in the water being funded by a 10% VAT, without removing any other tax burdens. Think about your monthly discretionary spending and how close to $1000 a 10% cut of that would be. Even worse he admits that $12,000/year wouldn’t actually fix anyone’s financial woes, but it might make them “feel better”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Hacker said: Yang’s plan is dead in the water being funded by a 10% VAT, without removing any other tax burdens. Think about your monthly discretionary spending and how close to $1000 a 10% cut of that would be. Even worse he admits that $12,000/year wouldn’t actually fix anyone’s financial woes, but it might make them “feel better”. “Feel better” and get hooked on being paid for doing nothing, beholden to the government. Great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, Hacker said: Yang’s plan is dead in the water being funded by a 10% VAT, without removing any other tax burdens. Think about your monthly discretionary spending and how close to $1000 a 10% cut of that would be. Even worse he admits that $12,000/year wouldn’t actually fix anyone’s financial woes, but it might make them “feel better”. Yeah, Joe tried twice to press him on that but didn't follow through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Hacker said: Yang’s plan is dead in the water being funded by a 10% VAT, without removing any other tax burdens. Think about your monthly discretionary spending and how close to $1000 a 10% cut of that would be. Even worse he admits that $12,000/year wouldn’t actually fix anyone’s financial woes, but it might make them “feel better”. Yeah, I think his solution sort of sucks, but I'll give him credit for attempting to address an impending major issue when no one else wants to talk about it. Living in a country 10-20 years from now where tens of millions of people have lost their careers due to automation and have become poor, desperate, and angry because we didn't get in front of it would also suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, torqued said: Yeah, I think his solution sort of sucks, but I'll give him credit for attempting to address an impending major issue when no one else wants to talk about it. Living in a country 10-20 years from now where tens of millions of people have lost their careers due to automation and have become poor, desperate, and angry because we didn't get in front of it would also suck. Unless the autonomy is developing itself, there will be jobs; the real question is will people be willing to adapt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SurelySerious said: Unless the autonomy is developing itself, there will be jobs; the real question is will people be willing to adapt? Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers: Edited February 17, 2019 by torqued 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, torqued said: Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers: You can sink or swim. Your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzdude Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers: Uhoh...https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603381/ai-software-learns-to-make-ai-software/Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 hours ago, SurelySerious said: You can sink or swim. Your choice. You should run for office with that campaign slogan. 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, SurelySerious said: Unless the autonomy is developing itself, there will be jobs; the real question is will people be willing to adapt? That's hilarious. 1 job for every 50 lost at best case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, torqued said: Living in a country 10-20 years from now where tens of millions of people have lost their careers due to automation and have become poor, desperate, and angry because we didn't get in front of it would also suck. Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Hacker said: Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover. There were operators at the controls of both of those industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire4effect Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 13 hours ago, M2 said: Speaking of robots, anyone else notice this? A Navy Ship Sailed to Hawaii and Back With No One on Board Actually saw another article on the same subject recently. When a lot of these things start getting fielded by different countries (depending on cost) I see the sea based leg of the triad in for a tougher time. Though I hope they don't overly rely on GPS for navigation as that's a whole lot of systems weak link. Persistent dwell will be their strength, just like RPAs are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, torqued said: You should run for office with that campaign slogan. 😆 Grounded in reality, not political feel goodism. I’ve had two siblings make major career changes as adults so far. Let politicians spew BS. 1 hour ago, uhhello said: That's hilarious. 1 job for every 50 lost at best case. That’s just apocalyptic speculation at best, like a Malthusian catastrophe for the workforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Hacker said: Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover. Those poor poor horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 hours ago, SurelySerious said: Grounded in reality, not political feel goodism. I’ve had two siblings make major career changes as adults so far. Let politicians spew BS. That’s great and I wish it worked like that, but the realism of “Your job is going away. Deal with it.” likely will not get people elected who set policy and create tomorrow’s reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, torqued said: That’s great and I wish it worked like that, but the realism of “Your job is going away. Deal with it.” likely will not get people elected who set policy and create tomorrow’s reality. We have another thread for that. Not this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, matmacwc said: We have another thread for that. Not this one. Please move the above comments to the other thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 21 hours ago, Hacker said: Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover. One of my favorite quotes... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so.it.goes Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 One of my favorite quotes... Yes... Yes, THE would have. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelexecute Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) UAL vs SWA? Haven’t had one of these measuring contests in awhile. Are the recent SWA problems anything to consider for those of us hoping to go there? Edited February 22, 2019 by pelexecute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, pelexecute said: UAL vs SWA? Haven’t had one of these measuring contests in awhile. Are the recent SWA problems anything to consider for those of us hoping to go there? https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-worlds-largest-airline-companies/ What problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I have friends happy at both, SWA would be a bit like Groundhog Day but I’m just guessing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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