What a idiot

Wait, you can be arrested for giving a speech on the steps of Congress, but breaking and entering gets you a Trump pardon?

I'm not defending dude's actions in uniform.

Homie about to be force shaped.

On 7/3/2026 at 11:15 AM, disgruntledemployee said:

Wait, you can be arrested for giving a speech on the steps of Congress, but breaking and entering gets you a Trump pardon?

I'm not defending dude's actions in uniform.

Pretty sure the reason the Jan-6ers needed a pardon in the first place is because…

…they were also arrested

13 hours ago, Pooter said:

Pretty sure the reason the Jan-6ers needed a pardon in the first place is because…

…they were also arrested

I skipped to the end regarding the Major. He won't get a pardon for... (let me look up the charges for this uber dangerous, Jason Bourne like, slicing and dicing, spittin' out the rhymes, speech making dude)... Oh yeah, Crowding, Obstructing and Incommoding, whatever that is. Crowd of one, guilty. Obstructing, guilty of holding 4 sq ft of the people's steps of the people's Capitol. Incommoding, man that's like piling on, what ever that is. Sure, guilty, sounds dangerous and had to be put down. So, compared to the 6er Rioters who did get a pardon... um, yeah. I'm so glad it took 4 LEOs to subdue the threat. Imagine if he just stood there for days on end? The destruction would have been bigly epical. Or he would have gone home after an hour and faced his potential UCMJ charges.

In the end, I think DC will drop the charges, lest they give the Maj another venue to pontificate. Its a misdemeanor. Same with AF. Probably go Art 15 at most, same reason.

I'm curious to see where the dude is a year from now. I'll set a reminder.

21 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I'm curious to see where the dude is a year from now. I'll set a reminder.

$3.50 says he runs for political office.

33 minutes ago, StoleIt said:

$3.50 says he runs for political office.

Sure seems like an attention-grabbing “stunt” to boost recognition for future political ambitions. Or he could just be that stupid… but likely both.

2 hours ago, brabus said:

Sure seems like an attention-grabbing “stunt” to boost recognition for future political ambitions. Or he could just be that stupid… but likely both.

So….. a democrat

8 hours ago, skybert said:

So….. a democrat

Sure wish there was a difference anymore.

Back to the thread topic: Listen to Mike Rowe interview JD Vance. Politics aside, I genuinely hope we get a man like Vance as our next president. A sincere, humble, honest, blue collar, military vet, entrepreneur of a man with a young family who actually represents the majority of America. It would be so refreshing to have a leader who's not putting on a narcissistic front, and is simply trying to do the best they can for the country and people they love.
https://mikerowe.com/podcast/

8 hours ago, FourFans said:

Back to the thread topic: Listen to Mike Rowe interview JD Vance. Politics aside, I genuinely hope we get a man like Vance as our next president. A sincere, humble, honest, blue collar, military vet, entrepreneur of a man with a young family who actually represents the majority of America. It would be so refreshing to have a leader who's not putting on a narcissistic front, and is simply trying to do the best they can for the country and people they love.
https://mikerowe.com/podcast/

Vance is deep into the pockets of billionaires.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/16/jd-vance-and-peter-thiel-what-to-know-about-the-relationship-between-trumps-vp-pick-and-the-billionaire/

Oh my God, he has donors who share similar beliefs and desires???!!!! Burn him!

Welcome to America dude, where politics is an extremely expensive endeavor and donors are the only way you’re getting anywhere beyond the school board. Did you listen to Rowe’s podcast? I haven’t, but I will.

7 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Vance is deep into the pockets of billionaires.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/16/jd-vance-and-peter-thiel-what-to-know-about-the-relationship-between-trumps-vp-pick-and-the-billionaire/

Always, someone whines…..

8 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Vance is deep into the pockets of billionaires.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/16/jd-vance-and-peter-thiel-what-to-know-about-the-relationship-between-trumps-vp-pick-and-the-billionaire/

Did you listen to the podcast? Who would you prefer be our next president?

Y'all wanna talk blue collar...fucker is in deep with a guy so rich, he isn't sure the human race should continue to exist. He's holding "discussions" on his view of Christianity. This isn't a Gates, Cuban, or even Ramsaway. While I believe there's few/no "good" billionaires, Thiel is extremely concerning to me.

I'm in politics, I know the money game. But the true "tech bros" involved in politics have some extreme beliefs.

Maybe it's because I deal with people like them everyday for work that I'm too deep in that environment. The tech bros are like finance bros squared.

Same with Tucker and his "blue collar" appeal. Dude is deep with a family fortune. Fuckers on both sides of the aisle being poverty/blue collar tourists for some reason pisses me off probably more than it should. Vance went to Yale.

No idea on next president. Shit, I might even support Rand Paul, at least he has values I can appreciate and isn't gonna steal from America. Same with Rubio depending on how Trump 2.0 stinks him up. Depends who the Dems put up. Am I likely to vote R? No, but I have in the past and likely will in the future, especially locally.

18 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

I'm in politics

Well this explains it…

17 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Y'all wanna talk blue collar...fucker is in deep with a guy so rich, he isn't sure the human race should continue to exist. He's holding "discussions" on his view of Christianity. This isn't a Gates, Cuban, or even Ramsaway. While I believe there's few/no "good" billionaires, Thiel is extremely concerning to me.

I'm in politics, I know the money game. But the true "tech bros" involved in politics have some extreme beliefs.

Maybe it's because I deal with people like them everyday for work that I'm too deep in that environment. The tech bros are like finance bros squared.

Same with Tucker and his "blue collar" appeal. Dude is deep with a family fortune. Fuckers on both sides of the aisle being poverty/blue collar tourists for some reason pisses me off probably more than it should. Vance went to Yale.

No idea on next president. Shit, I might even support Rand Paul, at least he has values I can appreciate and isn't gonna steal from America. Same with Rubio depending on how Trump 2.0 stinks him up. Depends who the Dems put up. Am I likely to vote R? No, but I have in the past and likely will in the future, especially locally.

I don't know any of the tech billionaires who believe the crazy stuff and believe in God. So while Peter Thiel has a couple screws loose, I don't believe Vance has the same pathology.

Also I don't want my politicians to be blue collar, I want them to have blue collar backgrounds. Vance fits that perfectly. He's for damn sure not a tourist 😂🤣. I find his foreign policy however to be mostly incoherent/irrational, far too close to Tucker Carlson. And since when is going to Yale bad? If he went because Daddy was an alumni, that would be one thing.

I've got my fingers crossed for Rubio. He's been the surprise hero of the administration.

On 7/8/2026 at 5:26 PM, Lord Ratner said:

I've got my fingers crossed for Rubio. He's been the surprise hero of the administration.

Absolutely agreed, but Vance will get Trump's full backing for whatever that's worth!

It just would nice not to have to consume a full bottle of Pepto Bismol when voting this next time!

But if the Dems put up Kamala, Gavin, Buttigieg, AOC or any of the other clowns they're considering; it looks like I'll be voting R again unless they totally screw up their nomination. Rubio/DeSantis would be my favorite ticket but as we all know, Vance is the heir apparent...

1 hour ago, M2 said:

Absolutely agreed, but Vance will get Trump's full backing for whatever that's worth!

It just would nice not to have to consume a full bottle of Pepto Bismol when voting this next time!

But if the Dems put up Kamala, Gavin, Buttigieg, AOC or any of the other clowns they're considering; it looks like I'll be voting R again unless they totally screw up their nomination. Rubio/DeSantis would be my favorite ticket but as we all know, Vance is the heir apparent...

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Vance is winning any favor with Trump over the Iran negotiations. That's not even necessarily a critique of Vance, but Trump believes himself to be the world's best negotiator, so if he sends Vance to Iran and Vance comes back with nothing but trash, especially when Vance is the voice of anti-interventionalism in the administration, I think he is going to get cross with Trump.

And to be clear, I think literally anybody, no matter how good, who ends up disagreeing with Trump on something will be in his bad graces. But Trump was never an isolationist, so it's just more likely that he and Rubio will be aligned more on foreign policy than he and Vance.

Also, as we learned with Obama, the power of the charismatic president does not transfer over well to their endorsements. So Vance may be the heir apparent, but Rubio is still going to be the more marketable politician.

On 7/3/2026 at 12:15 PM, disgruntledemployee said:

Wait, you can be arrested for giving a speech on the steps of Congress, but breaking and entering gets you a Trump pardon?

I'm not defending dude's actions in uniform.

You do realize that being in uniform is not the issue...right?

Under Article 88 commissioned officers are legally prohibited from using "contemptuous words" against the President, Vice President, Congress, and other key government officials, in uniform or out.

Sometimes I wonder if people realize what they signed up for and the rights they no longer have. This site will never out anyone and extreme to say, but those on active duty who are posting against the above on this forum are technically breaking the UCMJ.

2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

You do realize that being in uniform is not the issue...right?

Under Article 88 commissioned officers are legally prohibited from using "contemptuous words" against the President, Vice President, Congress, and other key government officials, in uniform or out.

Sometimes I wonder if people realize what they signed up for and the rights they no longer have. This site will never out anyone and extreme to say, but those on active duty who are posting against the above on this forum are technically breaking the UCMJ.

Good thing I’m enlisted 😎

F*** the president and the establishment!

Totally kidding, I mostly like the guy’s work and it’s been a HELL of a lot better in the military since Biden and that dipshit secretary of defense left. Pete isn’t perfect tho.

20 minutes ago, jonlbs said:

Good thing I’m enlisted 😎

F*** the president and the establishment!

Totally kidding, I mostly like the guy’s work and it’s been a HELL of a lot better in the military since Biden and that dipshit secretary of defense left. Pete isn’t perfect tho.

Article 88 - Officers

Article 134 - Enlisted

2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

You do realize that being in uniform is not the issue...right?

Under Article 88 commissioned officers are legally prohibited from using "contemptuous words" against the President, Vice President, Congress, and other key government officials, in uniform or out.

Sometimes I wonder if people realize what they signed up for and the rights they no longer have. This site will never out anyone and extreme to say, but those on active duty who are posting against the above on this forum are technically breaking the UCMJ.

And DC Police don't arrest for UCMJ violations. My point is not about the man, his military affiliation, or his uniform, its about what he did/said and the resulting arrest.

What did he do/say?