March 18Mar 18 Author 22 hours ago, bfargin said: Mayorkas should rot in a federal hard-core pound-in-the-butt prison (in gen pop) with the murderers and rapist for what he did to our nation. That’s not weaponizing the DoJ, that’s being just and punishing him for his treason. I could use your whole post and replace the name with D. Trump. Or a Biden. Don't pretent the rest are angels. The D. stands for dishonorable.
March 18Mar 18 So, the administration is ignoring judges orders now. Guess we all cool with that too since they're not orders we agree with?
March 18Mar 18 17 minutes ago, 17D_guy said: So, the administration is ignoring judges orders now. Guess we all cool with that too since they're not orders we agree with? It's not as simple as you make it seem
March 19Mar 19 3 hours ago, 17D_guy said: So, the administration is ignoring judges orders now. Guess we all cool with that too since they're not orders we agree with? curious why you aren't happy getting rid of illegal alien gang members? bet you wouldn't want them in your neighborhood...
March 19Mar 19 2 hours ago, BashiChuni said: curious why you aren't happy getting rid of illegal alien gang members? bet you wouldn't want them in your neighborhood... Who’s against deporting them? The debate here is between deporting them with or without due process.
March 19Mar 19 34 minutes ago, BuddhaSixFour said: Who’s against deporting them? The debate here is between deporting them with or without due process. Were the people deported in the US illegally?
March 19Mar 19 15 minutes ago, HeloDude said: Were the people deported in the US illegally? I don’t know and neither do you. That’s what due process is for.
March 19Mar 19 4 minutes ago, BuddhaSixFour said: I don’t know and neither do you. That’s what due process is for. The Secretary of State said they were here illegally…do you believe he is wrong? Do you believe he is lying?
March 19Mar 19 14 minutes ago, HeloDude said: The Secretary of State said they were here illegally…do you believe he is wrong? Do you believe he is lying? How is someone considered legal or illegal, immigration-wise, if the someone isn't afforded due process to determine their status? You would agree that they weren't afforded due process, correct? https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/
March 19Mar 19 48 minutes ago, HeloDude said: The Secretary of State said they were here illegally…do you believe he is wrong? Do you believe he is lying? Our entire system of government is predicated on the idea that Marco Rubio’s personal credibility isn’t a legally binding construct. I suspect you know that. It seems perfectly plausible most of these guys were illegal shit bags. Cool. Stick them in front of a judge, prove it, send them on their way to whatever hell hole prison you like. There’s no reason to not do it right. Edit: Rather, there are reasons to not do it right. It’s just that none of them are good. Edited March 19Mar 19 by BuddhaSixFour
March 19Mar 19 3 minutes ago, BuddhaSixFour said: Our entire system of government is predicated on the idea that Marco Rubio’s personal credibility isn’t a legally binding construct. I suspect you know that. It seems perfectly plausible most of these guys were illegal shit bags. Cool. Stick them in front of a judge, prove it, send them on their way to whatever hell hole prison you like. There’s no reason to not do it right. So for the government to deport anyone known to be here illegally, they have to be given a trial where the government must prove to a judge (or jury) they’re here illegally? When Obama deported millions of illegals, were they all give their due in front of a judge?…if not, why was this allowed to occur? We all knew the left was all for making it super difficult to deport those here illegally, but they’ve now extended it to violent criminals. No wonder the left is against voter ID laws. Well, the good news is that it will be the political gift that keeps on giving.
March 19Mar 19 Well, here’s an explanation of the law that you’re pretending to know something about: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11357/IF11357.5.pdf It lays out the exactly when “expedited removal” applies. It doesn’t require a trial or hearing, but it does lay out under what conditions someone can get a hearing and on what grounds. It’s a good balance of expediency in obvious situations with a due process remedy to catch mistakes. Give it a read. It’s interesting stuff. It’ll serve you better than… whatever that little outburst was.
March 19Mar 19 Thanks leftist douchebags for letting them in illegally by the millions (e.g. DNC-the puppet masters of braindead Biden, dems in congress, Mayorkas) If they can’t provide evidence of entering legally (stamped passport and declaration receipt) they should be sent home as soon as they are captured. No trial/hearing necessary since it’s guaranteed they entered illegally. Non citizens don’t have all the protections of the constitution. The gang member scum could have been dispatched with far cheaper with a 35cent 9mm round to guarantee they don’t murder or rape again. A plane ride was extremely generous.
March 19Mar 19 Interesting, it appears Trump is giving up the SACEUR position after the US has filled it (STS) for 75 years... Trump Intends to abandon US command of NATO forces in Europe
March 19Mar 19 49 minutes ago, bfargin said: Thanks leftist douchebags for letting them in illegally by the millions (e.g. DNC-the puppet masters of braindead Biden, dems in congress, Mayorkas) If they can’t provide evidence of entering legally (stamped passport and declaration receipt) they should be sent home as soon as they are captured. No trial/hearing necessary since it’s guaranteed they entered illegally. Non citizens don’t have all the protections of the constitution. The gang member scum could have been dispatched with far cheaper with a 35cent 9mm round to guarantee they don’t murder or rape again. A plane ride was extremely generous. 35¢?! Look at Daddy Moneybags over here 🤩🤩 A steel cased Magtech will get the job done *and* save the taxpayers some money. DOGE approved!
March 19Mar 19 10 hours ago, BuddhaSixFour said: It seems perfectly plausible most of these guys were illegal shit bags. Cool. Stick them in front of a judge, prove it, send them on their way to whatever hell hole prison you like. There’s no reason to not do it right. As of recent data, there are over 733,365 pending immigration court cases. The duration of an immigration court case can vary significantly based on several factors, including the complexity of the case, the backlog of the court, and the location. On average, cases can take about two years to be heard. However, in some locations, the wait time can be much longer, averaging over 1,400 days (almost four years) in places like San Antonio, Chicago, and Arlington. And now you think we have the time and resources to try those who can't prove they're legally in the country in the first place?!? Illegal immigrants in the U.S. do not have the same rights as U.S. citizens, but they are still entitled to certain protections under the Constitution such as the Fifth Amendment which guarantees that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. This means undocumented immigrants have the right to a fair legal process in criminal and civil matters. As soon as the Supreme Court overturns all current violations of the Second Amendment ("A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.") for actual US citizens, I fully support it looking into the rights of these illegal invaders!
March 19Mar 19 What a ridiculous legal argument. You have to wait until a full trial before the government is allowed to do anything to stop you from breaking the law? So if a cop pulls you over for speeding, 50 mph over the limit, he has to let you keep speeding until you've gone to trial? No. They seize your car for reckless endangerment. You get your car back after your day in court. If I decide to dig a 50-ft wide hole in the middle of the street, the cops can't fill it in until I've had my time in front of a judge? This falls apart immediately upon even the most simple-minded analysis. They may deserve their day in court, but we have no obligation to keep them in our country, which is an active and ongoing violation of the law, until they get their chance. I sincerely hope the Democrats keep hammering away on this issue. They are doing everything in their power to keep Americans on Trump's side.
March 20Mar 20 On 3/15/2025 at 12:39 PM, Banzai said: Yeah agreed. So to fix it we should embrace the policies of promising everyone $5k from DOGE, raise taxes on the working and middle class via regressive tax policies like tariffs, reduce taxes on high income earners to the tune of a loss of $5T over the next decade, and increase government deficit spending. What you’re missing in this is HOW to pay the piper and show evidence of HOW holistic policies are meeting those goals. Nothing you said was wrong, but it also entirely lacks any substance. To be more clear: we need to throttle peoples' disposable income - especially people on the dole. Yes, that means welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicade, student loan forgiveness. It will mean people losing homes, being displaced from communities they can't afford to live in, schools they can't afford to attend, getting fired from their make-work jobs, etc. The core problem that needs to be addressed is people spending money they didn't earn. Unless we remove other peoples' money from the people's pockets who didn't earn it, we won't solve a single thing. Doesn't matter what you make the tax rate. At this point, the only way forward to to redesign the incentive structure in an attempt to systematically begin to dismantle all the bad decisions that have collectively led us to this point.
March 20Mar 20 22 hours ago, M2 said: Interesting, it appears Trump is giving up the SACEUR position after the US has filled it (STS) for 75 years... Trump Intends to abandon US command of NATO forces in Europe Honestly that’s a really weird relationship since the EUCOM CC is dual hatted. If it’s a 31 country alliance and the desire is to get other countries to step up, it would be better optics (regardless of views on NATO) for other countries to share leadership of the alliance. EUCOM does and will continue to do most of the work anyways!
March 20Mar 20 More winning! Along with lowest border encounters in 40 plus years, another self-deportation: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/courtney-love-applies-for-uk-citizenship-says-trump-administration-is-frightening/ar-AA1BeAYo?ocid=BingNewsSerp LFG!
March 20Mar 20 2 hours ago, dream big said: Honestly that’s a really weird relationship since the EUCOM CC is dual hatted. If it’s a 31 country alliance and the desire is to get other countries to step up, it would be better optics (regardless of views on NATO) for other countries to share leadership of the alliance. EUCOM does and will continue to do most of the work anyways! Not really, the EUCOM Deputy Commander runs the COCOM while the SACEUR spends all his time in Mons. I've always contended the SACEUR position needed to be rotated amongst the members (STS) with the largest militaries, but then I saw Turkey and France near the top of that list and changed my mind! United States: ~1.3 million Türkiye: ~355,200 France: ~203,000 Germany: ~184,000 Italy: ~170,000 United Kingdom: ~156,000 I would say the US, UK and Germany should have shots at the title. But this is why the US has born the brunt of the cost burden, we held the monopoly on military leadership!
March 20Mar 20 23 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: What a ridiculous legal argument. You have to wait until a full trial before the government is allowed to do anything to stop you from breaking the law? So if a cop pulls you over for speeding, 50 mph over the limit, he has to let you keep speeding until you've gone to trial? No. They seize your car for reckless endangerment. You get your car back after your day in court. If I decide to dig a 50-ft wide hole in the middle of the street, the cops can't fill it in until I've had my time in front of a judge? This falls apart immediately upon even the most simple-minded analysis. They may deserve their day in court, but we have no obligation to keep them in our country, which is an active and ongoing violation of the law, until they get their chance. I sincerely hope the Democrats keep hammering away on this issue. They are doing everything in their power to keep Americans on Trump's side. Agreed, but I would like our deportations screening process to at least be rigorous enough not to detain american citizens, refuse green card holders entry into the country, or deport people with real madrid tattoos under the false assumption they're dangerous gang members. I get that our illegal immigrant problem demands urgency, but I want us to be sure when we take life-ruining actions against people. Each edge case mistake gives the left more ammunition to paint the right as evil racists, and honestly I want to live in a country where we at least follow our own processes well enough not to F*** the wrong people
March 20Mar 20 25 minutes ago, Pooter said: Agreed, but I would like our deportations screening process to at least be rigorous enough not to detain american citizens, refuse green card holders entry into the country, or deport people with real madrid tattoos under the false assumption they're dangerous gang members. I get that our illegal immigrant problem demands urgency, but I want us to be sure when we take life-ruining actions against people. Each edge case mistake gives the left more ammunition to paint the right as evil racists, and honestly I want to live in a country where we at least follow our own processes well enough not to F*** the wrong people Agreed, up to the point where we start talking about "even one mistake is too many." It's just not a realistic standard. Anybody who is on a tenuously secure legal status in this country should be making sure their legal documentation is in order. Again, I'd love for it to be a smoother, cleaner, more reliable process. But that's sort of wishful thinking is why nothing's been done. Perfect is the enemy of good enough.
March 21Mar 21 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/us/politics/musk-pentagon-briefing-china-war-plan.htmlWhat could go wrong?
March 21Mar 21 Target firm you disagree with using EO, retract EO after firm agrees to do free work for you. There’s at least one word for that kind of behavior…
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