The Next President is...

[Guardian]

Links to the unedited? They are on YouTube and Facebook.

[ItnStln]

17 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Links to the unedited? They are on YouTube and Facebook.

Yes, the unedited. I can't find it on YouTube all I get are trailers. 

[brickhistory]

And then there were 9...

[Guardian]

Go to the Donald’s Facebook.

[Lord Ratner]

2 hours ago, slackline said:

So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum.

And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising...

What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews...


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Fuck that, if they don't put it out, it doesn't exist.

 

So far the only interesting part of the story is the dude who is publicly claiming that Joe Biden was aware and a part of Hunter's money-making schemes. That should be pursued. The sexting and other shit is just noise. There's no shortage of screwed up politicians' kids.

 

However I personally think it stretches the imagination to claim that Joe didn't know his kid was using his name and position for personal gain. If there was ever an argument that Joe wasn't fully a swamp creature, and I don't think there was, it should be laid to rest.

[17D_guy]

46 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Go to the Donald’s Facebook.

I'd rather watch something Sim posts here.

[Guardian]

Ok. Well you’re missing out on some pretty funny bias compared to what 60 min aired

[gearhog]

2 hours ago, slackline said:

So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum.

And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising...

What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews...

Ever played poker? If you're a politician and you're sitting on a trove of information detrimental to your opponents, it can be of tremendous value. Once it has been made public, it no longer has value.

My point is: the laptop is real, and it does contain information. Everyone wants to know everything that's on it. I think Trump and his team know how much they need to allude to this information to get public interest, how much proof they need to provide to eek out a win, and how much they can use against their opponents for the next 4 years.

Perhaps, it's a bluff, perhaps it's not. Don't expect to get any more proof than is necessary to lock up the election.

 

[uhhello]

46 minutes ago, torqued said:

Ever played poker? If you're a politician and you're sitting on a trove of information detrimental to your opponents, it can be of tremendous value. Once it has been made public, it no longer has value.

My point is: the laptop is real, and it does contain information. Everyone wants to know everything that's on it. I think Trump and his team know how much they need to allude to this information to get public interest, how much proof they need to provide to eek out a win, and how much they can use against their opponents for the next 4 years.

Perhaps, it's a bluff, perhaps it's not. Don't expect to get any more proof than is necessary to lock up the election.

 

Do you honestly think there is ANYONE left in this country who hasn't had their mind made up and then some?  Trump could shoot someone in the street and his base wouldn't care.  Biden could be found feeding pigeons in Central Park not knowing who he is and his base wouldn't care at this point.  

[Guardian]

Yes. You’re asking if there is one person out of 330 million people that hasn’t made their mind up? The answer is yes.

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, Guardian said:

Yes. You’re asking if there is one person out of 330 million people that hasn’t made their mind up? The answer is yes.

Two people?  

Three people?

 

Great episode if you've seen it.

[mcbush]

6 hours ago, HercDude said:

2024 election will be between Harris and Nikki Haley.  Mark the tapes.

This is a smart bet. And Haley will win.

[slackline]

Yes. You’re asking if there is one person out of 330 million people that hasn’t made their mind up? The answer is yes.

I would agree with that assessment, but here’s the better question: do you honestly think those that are still undecided will be swayed by what looks like a blatant attempt to sling mud and is seen as being questionable?

I say it looks like an attempt to sling mud because with all of this “rock solid evidence” there sure is a whole lot of nothing being said by the people that matter. As of yesterday, even Trump is being quiet about it. I think they know it won’t sway anyone. Covid is what Trump and Biden are discussing... Oddly enough, Trump says his plan (anyone seen it?) will create a booming economy, and Covid is basically beat. If that’s not strictly talking to your base, I don’t know what is...


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[dream big]

14 minutes ago, slackline said:

I would agree with that assessment, but here’s the better question: do you honestly think those that are still undecided will be swayed by what looks like a blatant attempt to sling mud and is seen as being questionable?

I say it looks like an attempt to sling mud because with all of this “rock solid evidence” there sure is a whole lot of nothing being said by the people that matter. As of yesterday, even Trump is being quiet about it. I think they know it won’t sway anyone. Covid is what Trump and Biden are discussing... Oddly enough, Trump says his plan (anyone seen it?) will create a booming economy, and Covid is basically beat. If that’s not strictly talking to your base, I don’t know what is...


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No one is talking about it because the media is complicit in the plan to destroy this country from the left.  Where have you been the last 5-6 years? If this was Don Jr or Eric with the same degree of evidence it would be on 24/7 coverage, tell me I am wrong?

I do agree that this won’t sway many undecided voters.  The question is how many will enthusiastically get off their behind and vote for their candidate.  Look at the enthusiasm at their rallies, and I think you’ll get your answer.
 

Side note: the economy was booming under Trump prior to China infecting then world with Covid...and all things considered the economy is making a strong rebound (unless you live in states like Michigan or New York.) Trump has already proven he can make the right decisions for a strong economy amongst other things.  

[slackline]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/27/biden-becoming-president-not-make-everything-suddenly-normal-column/6042756002/

Screw both Trump and Biden. It’s up to us as individuals to stop treating the other side as if they were some kind of fully-functioning mentally challenged person simply because we disagree with their ideologies...


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[slackline]

No one is talking about it because the media is complicit in the plan to destroy this country from the left.  Where have you been the last 5-6 years? If this was Don Jr or Eric with the same degree of evidence it would be on 24/7 coverage, tell me I am wrong?
I do agree that this won’t sway many undecided voters.  The question is how many will enthusiastically get off their behind and vote for their candidate.  Look at the enthusiasm at their rallies, and I think you’ll get your answer.
 
Side note: the economy was booming under Trump prior to China infecting then world with Covid...and all things considered the economy is making a strong rebound (unless you live in states like Michigan or New York.) Trump has already proven he can make the right decisions for a strong economy amongst other things.  

Rallies aren’t a good example my friend. The fanatics are the ones that go to Trump rallies, so that’s not anymore enthusiasm than normal.

I’ll eat crow if this comes out and is all verified. Like I said before, it wouldn’t surprise me, but everyone acting like Trump et al is biding his time to release these bombshells is ignoring the fact that Trump has never been able to sit patiently and wait. Don’t act like he listens to his people either because that isn’t true.

Everyone claiming some vast media conspiracy sounds just a little tin foil hat, but whatever. Could all be very true. The counterpoints to those arguments have been made, I can’t make you believe them.

As for the economy, Look at the numbers, economy was basically a wash between the questions of who did it better, and it is incredibly disingenuous of Trump to claim the greatest economy in our history. Clinton, Reagan and Johnson’s were better. Republicans/conservatives (myself included in a distant past) like to claim trickle down economics when things don’t go their way, but ignore it when they look good. By that logic, Obama turned the economy around after the recession and Trump continued to benefit from the Obama admin’s actions. I’m not saying that is, in fact, what happened, just pointing out more hypocrisy.

Also, to say we’re on a trend towards economic recovery is ridiculous. Who’s doing better? Middle class? Nope, the poor? Nope. The rich? Yep, they’ve made a killing during the pandemic, and are continuing to do so. All while there are hundreds of thousands of households freaking out for when eviction moratoriums end. Let’s not ignore the 2nd and 3rd order effects of all the poor communities that didn’t have the money to continue college from home during quarantine, and how many generations that will take to recover. To say otherwise, would seem to intentionally ignore the facts.

So, if your measuring stick is the rich, ok, yep, they’re better than ever...

Sorry if that is disjointed. I’m in a rush...


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[TreeA10]

Highest employment numbers for Americans.  (with whatever hyphen you might want to add) EVER. RECORDED. You can argue that the rich made money but the rich always will and people who were making ZERO money were making dollars. 

[slackline]

Highest employment numbers for Americans.  (with whatever hyphen you might want to add) EVER. RECORDED. You can argue that the rich made money but the rich always will and people who were making ZERO money were making dollars. 

What?


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[brickhistory]

10 hours ago, uhhello said:

Do you honestly think there is ANYONE left in this country who hasn't had their mind made up and then some?  Trump could shoot someone in the street and his base wouldn't care.  

 

Rather depends on who he shot and why.

[FLEA]

1 hour ago, brickhistory said:

 

Rather depends on who he shot and why.

What if we just did elections 1800's style and turned them into pistol duals. First blood draw, your electoral votes determine your pistol and vice president picks act as seconds. If you sweep the electoral map, Keanu Reaves comes in and takes your shots for you. 

 

Satire of course. 

Edited October 27, 2020 by FLEA

[brickhistory]

Well, it would be Trump's considerable bulk as a target vs. shaky Joe's cognitive ability - "No, Joe, you don't lick it, you point it..."

 

 

As an amusing real-world aside, Biden introduced Harris' husband as her "wife."

[TreeA10]

2 hours ago, slackline said:

What?


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Admittedly this was pre-WhuFlu but employment rates were at record lows. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/economy/black-unemployment-rate/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic-unemployment-is-at-a-record-low.html

[gearhog]

3 hours ago, slackline said:

Rallies aren’t a good example my friend. The fanatics are the ones that go to Trump rallies, so that’s not anymore enthusiasm than normal.

 

This morning, I waited 1.5 hours outside in the rain, in a line that stretched around the courthouse to vote early. No one in line was wearing political gear, but many were wearing red.

Around the town square, people were in chairs under umbrellas holding Trump signs while the passing traffic honked, gave thumbs up, etc.

I got inside, got my ballot from the clerk who said it had been like this for days. ( I know, I stopped by two other days last week and the line was too long). As I'm voting, the clerk explains to the 50-60 year old man immediately behind me that he could vote a straight ticket if he wanted. He said "What's that mean? I'm sorry, I've never voted before."

That's just my little corner of the world, but I have never ever seen anything like it, and neither had anyone around me in line I was talking to.

I do agree with your point about the economy. We're f'd six ways from Sunday. We're in a false recovery. Whoever is POTUS will have one of the biggest economic meltdowns ever on their watch.

Edited October 27, 2020 by torqued

[Sim]

He is getting worse.... 

 

[DosXX]

7 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

Highest employment numbers for Americans.  (with whatever hyphen you might want to add) EVER. RECORDED.

Highest deficit numbers for America. (with whatever hyphen you might want to add). EVER. RECORDED. 

Kicking the can down the road to artificially prop up the economy by multiplying the deficit in the short term is genius political strategy I must say. Surprised to see it work so well on here. 

There's a huge amount of confounding factors affecting deficit/employment, of which the President has little control over.