Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 But 10 years is like two weeks in the mind of the scorned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Anyone catch the "correction" at the bottom? Some stellar reporting. "It was Sergeant Smith — not her husband, who is an enlisted man in the 20th Fighter Wing." So, apparently she is also a man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papajuice77 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 And so it's begun... went to a Friday afternoon OG/CC call yesterday billed as "awards and combat mission review," standard lameness, but bearable thanks to the availbility of brew... 10 minutes deep and BAM! Here comes the SARC woman, like f'in Batman dropping out of the sky. Definitely kept that one under tight wraps until there was no getting out of it. At this stage I'm so sick of leadership trying to make us all wear the sexual assault diaper that I might just roundhouse the next dude I see flirting with the friggin SARM chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Was there ever a time when CC calls were valuable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeelPilot Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Was there ever a time when CC calls were valuable? WWII. Probably Vietnam. Ask Huggy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Just read the official complaint...unbelievable. I have a bad feeling this is going to negatively impact squadrons in a HUGE manner. Hell, even the full lyrics to S&M Man were in the complaint. My one question is, how in the hell did she get her hands on songbooks, "wingmen guides," etc. Suggest everyone cleans out their space at work and puts stuff in a truly safe place, not under a sheet of paper in your desk drawer. And don't assume the 1CO's, AFE, etc. are "cool" because they haven't complained, I think that is a big part of what bit the community in the ass. Shit's about to hit the fan. Edit: Here's the link to the complaint if anyone wants to read/scan it: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fprotectourdefenders.com%2Fdownloads%2FFINAL_SMITH_ADMIN_COMPLAINT.pdf&ei=9gWpULzELIii8gSq64DYDQ&usg=AFQjCNGUSns0zCM7djg9wt3-Gzz7PWP4Kw&cad=rja Edited November 18, 2012 by brabus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 "10% truth" is the standard, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yep, I'm sure there's no half-truths or embellishments in that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Edit: Here's the link to the complaint if anyone wants to read/scan it: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fprotectourdefenders.com%2Fdownloads%2FFINAL_SMITH_ADMIN_COMPLAINT.pdf&ei=9gWpULzELIii8gSq64DYDQ&usg=AFQjCNGUSns0zCM7djg9wt3-Gzz7PWP4Kw&cad=rja Gee, only 66 complaints? On second thought, she should've dreamt up three more to make it an even 69 items. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight2020 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The idea of a military dominated by warrior monks with absolute sexual self-restraint and a central preoccupation with the social and cultural idiosyncrasies of the female gender is a fuckin' pipedream . That concise enough for you, SARC lady? And that's talking about the ones who claim innocence as female members of the military. Let's not even get to the other politically incorrect assertion that the desert queens and squadron bicycles that are the preponderance of military females in deployable positions,do hold responsibility for the outcomes and risks of their sexual machinations when surrounded by a preponderance of sex starved and stressed males. You'll never hear that admission from the SARC lady either. After all we're all rapists and brutes with no conscience. Females are endemically sexually innocent....Fuck that post-feminist view of gender roles. The game is chess it ain't checkers.Caveat emptor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Edit: Here's the link to the complaint if anyone wants to read/scan it: https://www.google.co...7PWP4Kw&cad=rja So many gems and I'm only 6-9 pages in. This is some stellar bullet-writing on behalf of her Commander: In her prior performance review issued on February 11, 2011, a different supervisor, Lt. Col. Jason L. Plourde, described TSgt Smith as follows: “gifted mentor… energetically [managed] EFS [program] to fly 1K flags in combat by F-16 pilots – JBB patriotism & morale skyrocketed.” Patriotism skyrocketed! Those must have been some damn dirty Red Communists at the base before she coordinated the flying of those 1,000 flags. I'm pretty sure my patriotism meter is already pegged max, no room for skyrocketing here /sarcasm The whole OPR/EPR bullet process makes me wanna Edited November 18, 2012 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slander Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Who bought booze with taxpayer dollars? Unless you think that using my paycheck consists of using taxpayer dollars, I don't know any bar that uses gubment money to stock the bar. Also, of note, she never actually used any of the numerous formal complaint mechanisms, only said something to various supervisors and then waited 12 years and filed a lawsuit. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Who bought booze with taxpayer dollars? Unless you think that using my paycheck consists of using taxpayer dollars, I don't know any bar that uses gubment money to stock the bar. Also, of note, she never actually used any of the numerous formal complaint mechanisms, only said something to various supervisors and then waited 12 years and filed a lawsuit. Nice. Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt4fans Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) How am I supposed to make an informed decision if all the exhibts/references have been removed? I need pictures to make an informed decision.... Edited November 18, 2012 by capt4fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 This complaint also highlights just how broken our EPR system is. I don't know her, she may have been a good troop (this passive aggressive grudge holding non-withstanding) but all the reports (and the official complaint) make her sound like some sort of super star based on her EPRs. If she was truly a shining star she would be at least a MSgt, if not a SMSgt by 17 years. But now the Air Force (particularly males in flying squadrons) look even worse for picking on such a spectacular troop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Everyone (almost) scoffed when I said everything started changing rapidly the very day they announced women would be allowed to fly fighters. Things changed and the chicks turned out to be full up, for the most part (no less than dudes). Little did anyone know it would be some enlisted gal who would spend several,years accumulating evidence to blow the whole thing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm actually a little disappointed in myself for not getting mentioned in the complaint. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Haha, she references the "Get on my horse" video as pornograhic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatalpan Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Had to laugh at this one, "TSgt Smith and others were repeatedly exposed for hours to pilots singing drinking songs from Dos Gringos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Haha, she references the "Get on my horse" video as pornograhic. I want to know what sane person loops that shit for 5 hours? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy shit she was photocopying shit posted above the pissers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Just read the official complaint...unbelievable. I have a bad feeling this is going to negatively impact squadrons in a HUGE manner. Hell, even the full lyrics to S&M Man were in the complaint. My one question is, how in the hell did she get her hands on songbooks, "wingmen guides," etc. Suggest everyone cleans out their space at work and puts stuff in a truly safe place, not under a sheet of paper in your desk drawer. And don't assume the 1CO's, AFE, etc. are "cool" because they haven't complained, I think that is a big part of what bit the community in the ass. Shit's about to hit the fan. Edit: Here's the link to the complaint if anyone wants to read/scan it: https://www.google.co...7PWP4Kw&cad=rja Reading through it, it sounds like someone missed MSgt and now she's bitter about it. "She adapted herself and was rewarded"...so once the rewards stopped, she assumed it was gender discrimination and decided to file a lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy shit she was photocopying shit posted above the pissers. What was she doing in there in the first place???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMurai Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy shit she was photocopying shit posted above the pissers. Quick - file a countersuit. Oh...wait...I'm pretty sure my local SARC lady would crucify me for being in my own men's room with my cawk out. Somehow it would be called sexual harassment. The only way to fix this is the remodel all the men's rooms into 5 foot high darkened closets. Enter, pee in a silver coffee can, and then place the can outside the lower rathole door. Canteen cups will be issued at the next bi-weekly SARC training event, but you will have to arrive with your CBT certificate (signed in triplicate)...with a training date on it within the last 6.9 hours of the class start time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFRESH Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) No wonder she never made it past TSgt. It took her over 10 years just to compile all the good roll call gouge. In all seriousness though, this is a bad one. Mostly because she's taking shit that was legitimately no bueno (actually being raped), and combining it with shit that she shouldn't have been worried about (if the doofer book offends you, don't fucking read it!). Also, why did she make it a point to complain about all the shit that wasn't actually forced on her like opening shit on shared drives that she didn't want to read or porn hidden in the vault, but not bother to tell anybody about the sexual assault? Edited November 20, 2012 by DFRESH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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