What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Lord Ratner]

How much effort does it require to pass a fitness test? Not much.
No officer should ever fail a fitness test.

Please. Pretty sure you've never had to take our PT test.
#CheckYourGruntPrivilege

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[VMFA187]

13 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

Please. Pretty sure you've never had to take our PT test.
#CheckYourGruntPrivilege

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I'm assuming you're being sarcastic which I can appreciate.

Edited June 11, 2017 by VMFA187

[dream big]

I'm in my early 30s, if you are in somewhat decent shape it's easy to pass.  Getting a 90 (what I shoot for so I don't have to take it in a year) takes some effort due to the run and giving up beer a few weeks before but doable.  I can't run an 8 minute mile and a half anymore and I prefer to focus on lifting weights which is arguably a much better workout then being able to run.  

Airmen in their early 20s have zero excuse to fail it! I find it pathetic that guys have to bring their colleagues to "cheer them on", for f**** sake this is why the marines and army shit on us.

That being said, I think we put way too much focus on the PT test.  As long as guys are passing commanders should focus on other things, like taking care of their people and making sure the mission is getting done.  Morale runs?! I'm not taking part in your flamboyant fun run. 

 

 

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[FourFans]

Hey look, the USAF brass is trying to hide their efforts to get rid of the A-10 again.

https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/06/09/air-force-mulls-cutting-three-a-10-squadrons/?ESRC=airforce-a_170614

Edited June 15, 2017 by FourFans130

[Duck]

Hey look, the USAF brass is trying to hide their efforts to get rid of the A-10 again.
https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/06/09/air-force-mulls-cutting-three-a-10-squadrons/?ESRC=airforce-a_170614

What's the definition of insanity again?


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[sputnik]

Few years back, was awaiting knee surgery, couldnt run.  Took the bike test.  Did exactly as I was told.  Never broke a sweat.  Failed.  Great test.

[dream big]

Didn't congress tell the Air Force a hard no to the A-10?! Besides the McCain McSally/Arizona bloc of congress is strong. 

[sqwatch]

What's the definition of insanity again?

 

 

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-therapy/200907/the-definition-insanity-is

 

It's not what you think it is.

 

 

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[Duck]

 
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-therapy/200907/the-definition-insanity-is
 
It's not what you think it is.
 
 
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You must be a real hit at parties...


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[ToyotaMC1]

I know I'm new and can't create a topic thread. Does anyone know where I can send guys through JMPS training or have someone come out and instruct on it?

Secondly, does JMPS come with Falcon View and Winder or do you have to install that separately?

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[MooseAg03]

I'd say upper management fits that definition perfectly, "cannot distinguish fantasy from reality."


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[disgruntledemployee]

How bout this idea?  A flying deployment usually meant some extra coin and tax free.  But hey, we're flying.  A 179 or 365 non-flying, screw that.  So, I propose a 179 pays an extra chunk of change, and a 365 even more so.  It does 2 things, generates volunteers and deletes requirements.  The AF shouldn't want to shell out for 10 dudes handing out towels at the gym and after a few rotes, they'll figure out how to cut down on the extraneous.  Plus, they may start having folks do work that can be done stateside or make rotes much shorter.  So all I'm saying is that if those long deployments are truly worth it, pay up an extra few thou a month.  We already have Es doing deployments to gain tax free on re-up bonuses, so this kind of thing can work.  Hell, they can even put a varying price tag depending on location and level of shit to deal with.  Double a man's salary and someone will go to Asskrakistan for a few.  And get rid of the "179" label.  Make it 180 and give some credit.  Sheesh!

And beer in every location! 

[Guest]

59 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

How bout this idea?  A flying deployment usually meant some extra coin and tax free.  But hey, we're flying.  A 179 or 365 non-flying, screw that.  So, I propose a 179 pays an extra chunk of change, and a 365 even more so.  It does 2 things, generates volunteers and deletes requirements.  The AF shouldn't want to shell out for 10 dudes handing out towels at the gym and after a few rotes, they'll figure out how to cut down on the extraneous.  Plus, they may start having folks do work that can be done stateside or make rotes much shorter.  So all I'm saying is that if those long deployments are truly worth it, pay up an extra few thou a month.  We already have Es doing deployments to gain tax free on re-up bonuses, so this kind of thing can work.  Hell, they can even put a varying price tag depending on location and level of shit to deal with.  Double a man's salary and someone will go to Asskrakistan for a few.  And get rid of the "179" label.  Make it 180 and give some credit.  Sheesh!

And beer in every location! 

There is zero chance they could get Congress to fund this.  Also 179 vs 180 is no longer relevant, they haven't given short tour credit for 180+ in quite some time.

If AF wants to cut down on requirements, CSAF needs to call out the COCOMs on their requirements.  I don't see our current CSAF going to bat on this one.  The next best COA would be to start filling the 11X required billets with non-11Xs.  When the non-rated folks show their ability to build power-point slides just as well as rated, they'll be able to drop the 11X requirement and get rid of the notion that the COCOM's "need" pilots to do their staff work.

[ToyotaMC1]

3 hours ago, ihtfp06 said:

There is zero chance they could get Congress to fund this.  Also 179 vs 180 is no longer relevant, they haven't given short tour credit for 180+ in quite some time.

If AF wants to cut down on requirements, CSAF needs to call out the COCOMs on their requirements.  I don't see our current CSAF going to bat on this one.  The next best COA would be to start filling the 11X required billets with non-11Xs.  When the non-rated folks show their ability to build power-point slides just as well as rated, they'll be able to drop the 11X requirement and get rid of the notion that the COCOM's "need" pilots to do their staff work.

If we cut off the damn supply of Toyota Hiluxs every member of ISIS seems to have in Iraq/Syria, this war would come to a screeching halt. Then no more 179s or 365s boys and girls.

[Weezer]

3 hours ago, ihtfp06 said:

 

If AF wants to cut down on requirements, CSAF needs to call out the COCOMs on their requirements.  I don't see our current CSAF going to bat on this one.  The next best COA would be to start filling the 11X required billets with non-11Xs.  When the non-rated folks show their ability to build power-point slides just as well as rated, they'll be able to drop the 11X requirement and get rid of the notion that the COCOM's "need" pilots to do their staff work.

Even if CSAF does, SecDef can overrule him.

I like your non-rated COA.  I know of plenty of non-rated dudes who want a bigger piece of the operations pie, and some others who are getting too comfy not deploying.

[Guest]

I had heard a story that when Mattis took over at CENTCOM, he was infuriated with staff bloat and vowed to cut the size of the CENTCOM staff, tasking his CoS to handle it.  When he relinquished command, he asked the CoS how successful they had been in accomplishing this goal.  As it turned out, they hadn't been successful at all, and manpower at HQ CENTCOM had swelled during his tenure.

[sqwatch]

I had heard a story that when Mattis took over at CENTCOM, he was infuriated with staff bloat and vowed to cut the size of the CENTCOM staff, tasking his CoS to handle it.  When he relinquished command, he asked the CoS how successful they had been in accomplishing this goal.  As it turned out, they hadn't been successful at all, and manpower at HQ CENTCOM had swelled during his tenure.

I like stories from anonymous sources the best.



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[SurelySerious]

I like stories from anonymous sources the best.



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Bonus if they caveat it with they weren't authorized to speak on the matter.

[matmacwc]

42 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Bonus if they caveat it with they weren't authorized to speak on the matter.

Even better when there are multiple.

[Day Man]

just gonna leave this here...

[uhhello]

Karma is a bitch sometimes.  

[Azimuth]

2 hours ago, uhhello said:

Karma is a bitch sometimes.  

Hi, I'm Ryan who made that post.

[Herk Driver]

Hi, I'm Ryan who made that post.

Ryan, sorry to hear about this. Maybe one of the people you emailed will actually have the guts to look into it...

Sounds like you stumbled into a great job in the real world though...I'm out next summer.


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[uhhello]

1 hour ago, Azimuth said:

Hi, I'm Ryan who made that post.

I know.  Can you fix my phone?