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6 minutes ago, Terminator5 said:

Gonna migrate the conversation over to this topic. @FOX3 Were u guard or reserve? And what’s ur timeline look like? I’m assuming u enlisted/got gained by the unit before u dropped OTS dates? But anyways congrats!

Hey thanks a lot!  I'm Guard, and yes I enlisted and was gained by my unit well before dropping OTS dates.  My timeline post is actually in this topic here.

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On 2/2/2020 at 10:57 AM, mightymighty said:

Completed Timeline

Guard/Fighter - Non-Prior

Hired: March '19

MEPS/Enlistment: June '19

FC1: October '19 (Failed)

FC1 Re-Test: December '19 (Passed)

FC1 Stamped Approved: December '19

FC1 Received by Unit: January '19

TFOT: August '20

UPT: June '21 Vance

 

 

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Guard off the street heavy

Applied: Jan 2020

Board/Hired: May 2020

MEPS/Enlisted: July 2020

FC1: Mid Oct 2020

FC1 Approved (with eye related waiver): First week of Dec 2020

Packet completed, send to JFHQ/NGB: JFHQ mid Dec 2020, NGB late Dec 2020

NGB Approved: last week of Feb 2021 and put in request for TFOT

TFOT: Aug 2021

UPT: 

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On 2/19/2021 at 10:18 AM, ryleypav said:

Just an fyi to hopefully help speed things along, you're recruiter is most certainly able to send up your package to NGB to get OTS dates, without your FC1 being done or approved. You'll have to send the FC1 up after its approved, but if they say they need the FC1 to get your officer selection package up and approved, that's not true. Trust me. 

Does anyone know of a reason a unit would delay sending someone to wright pat? I went to meps in june same as @ryleypav, package sent to NGB in october but still no word on going for the FC1. My DO was saying they were shooting for an end of the summer OTS date with UPT in FY22 so I would think we should be getting it knocked out.

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Does anyone know of a reason a unit would delay sending someone to wright pat? I went to meps in june same as@ryleypav, package sent to NGB in october but still no word on going for the FC1. My DO was saying they were shooting for an end of the summer OTS date with UPT in FY22 so I would think we should be getting it knocked out.


If I was in your shoes, I would try to get that done as soon as possible. Less things you have to get done before training, the better!
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On 3/4/2021 at 12:04 PM, TotableMink said:

Does anyone know of a reason a unit would delay sending someone to wright pat? I went to meps in june same as @ryleypav, package sent to NGB in october but still no word on going for the FC1. My DO was saying they were shooting for an end of the summer OTS date with UPT in FY22 so I would think we should be getting it knocked out.

Has your base training office (FDO) requested an appointment for your FC1? The way I understand the process is that Wright Patt "gives" so many slots to NGB (assuming you're guard), and NGB magically gives you a slot. But your FDO has to add you to the queue. If they have, then I would ask them what the situation there is. If they haven't, then you should ask/have your recruiter ask/have your DO ask/have your Sq/CC ask them to do it ASAP.

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6 hours ago, JabroniWizard said:

For those of you hired off the street, what have you typically do/done on drill weekends? Looking for some perspective before my first one this weekend.


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Not-a-damn-thing. Meet people, hang out, that's about it... Most/some units put you into student flight, but you might be able to "opt-out".

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On 3/5/2021 at 12:16 PM, JabroniWizard said:

For those of you hired off the street, what have you typically do/done on drill weekends? Looking for some perspective before my first one this weekend.


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Pretty much nothing. Get to know everyone in the squadron, sit in on any briefs/meetings I can. Get some stuff out of the way like computer access, getting uniforms and flight suits ordered. But otherwise typically just about nothing.

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On 3/5/2021 at 6:32 PM, 1nfrequentF1yer said:

Not-a-damn-thing. Meet people, hang out, that's about it... Most/some units put you into student flight, but you might be able to "opt-out".

I was in student flight (still am? They're dissolving ours I think) but the pilot hires just sign in at student flight for roll call then dip out to the squadron instead of staying there all day. 

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On 3/5/2021 at 5:30 PM, 1nfrequentF1yer said:

Has your base training office (FDO) requested an appointment for your FC1? The way I understand the process is that Wright Patt "gives" so many slots to NGB (assuming you're guard), and NGB magically gives you a slot. But your FDO has to add you to the queue. If they have, then I would ask them what the situation there is. If they haven't, then you should ask/have your recruiter ask/have your DO ask/have your Sq/CC ask them to do it ASAP.

Unsure, but I know my DO sent an email requesting dates. He didnt know why it hadnt been scheduled yet either. Been about a month since then, would love to know more but I also dont want to be the annoying FNG.

On 3/5/2021 at 5:32 PM, 1nfrequentF1yer said:

Not-a-damn-thing. Meet people, hang out, that's about it... Most/some units put you into student flight, but you might be able to "opt-out".

My unit put me in student flight and went up for 2 drill weekends to take care of admin stuff like @ryleypav mentioned, but after that they let me opt out since I currently live out of state.

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29 minutes ago, TotableMink said:

Unsure, but I know my DO sent an email requesting dates. He didnt know why it hadnt been scheduled yet either. Been about a month since then, would love to know more but I also dont want to be the annoying FNG.

Who did your DO send an email to? When you say DO I assume you mean your squadron director of operations. I would still give your FDO (force development office) a call. It's a fine balance between being annoying and getting stuff done but a lot of times that's what it takes because you have to be one keeping those that are pushing you through honest. So if it's been a month, I think it's fair to ask at least somebody, but don't be a douche about it. Be like "hey I know you guys are super busy, but I'm trying to get some information about my FCI being scheduled, if I need to do anything, etc". If they tell you you're being annoying then ask them (politely) to hook you up with some answers so they won't have to be bothered by you anymore 🙂 

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Off the street hire at a Guard Tanker Unit.

March 2021 Update: inching closer. again....again

 

AFOQT/TBAS: July 2016

Board: November 2019

Hired:  November 2019

MEPS: Passed April 2020 amid the 'rona outbreak. 

Enlistment: June 2020.

FC1: September 29, 2020

FC1 Stamped Approved: November 2020

NGB approval: March 2021

OTS: ??? 

UPT: ???

FTU: ???

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Hired: Jun 2019
FC1: Jan 2020 (rescheduled)
FC1: Jun 2020
FC1 Approved: Jul 2020
NGB Sent: Aug 2020
NGB Approved: Feb 2021

Can anyone give any info/experience on how long it takes to get TFOT and UPT dates once your packet is approved by NGB?

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8 hours ago, tlaw99 said:


Hired: Jun 2019
FC1: Jan 2020 (rescheduled)
FC1: Jun 2020
FC1 Approved: Jul 2020
NGB Sent: Aug 2020
NGB Approved: Feb 2021

Can anyone give any info/experience on how long it takes to get TFOT and UPT dates once your packet is approved by NGB?

This is the golden question lol. 

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@ryleypav

I've seen 3 months and I've seen up to 9 months for TFOT.  Keep checking in every few weeks and make sure they're actually working on it. The most annoying feeling in the world is when you call to check in a month later to find out they had everything they needed to request TFOT dates but the A1C working your paperwork forgot about you (ask me how I know)

I would also press them to request UPT dates prior to getting to TFOT. It's possible - because I've seen ANG pilot candidates get both TFOT and UPT dates at the same time.

As always YMMV but feel free to DM and I can share more.

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14 hours ago, tlaw99 said:


Hired: Jun 2019
FC1: Jan 2020 (rescheduled)
FC1: Jun 2020
FC1 Approved: Jul 2020
NGB Sent: Aug 2020
NGB Approved: Feb 2021

Can anyone give any info/experience on how long it takes to get TFOT and UPT dates once your packet is approved by NGB?

I got approved by NGB same time you did, and got told like a week later I'm going to the August OTS class. Nothing on UPT yet since that's gonna be an FY22 thing for me so I don't know if that's been laid out yet. 

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I had the ol shoulder tuned up in ‘16 but so they had me do a X-ray consult for MEPS. Now just waiting for them to approve it. Should be easy (famous last words) approval as I crushed the consult and have no residual problems from the surgery. Anyone have experience with waiting on SG to approve waiver from MEPS?

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4 hours ago, glockenspiel said:

I had the ol shoulder tuned up in ‘16 but so they had me do a X-ray consult for MEPS. Now just waiting for them to approve it. Should be easy (famous last words) approval as I crushed the consult and have no residual problems from the surgery. Anyone have experience with waiting on SG to approve waiver from MEPS?

From MEPS to AF Surgeon General to approval was, if I remember right, 2 to 4 weeks.

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56 minutes ago, yervis said:

From MEPS to AF Surgeon General to approval was, if I remember right, 2 to 4 weeks.

Must be nice lol. Mine took from the time my recruiter said my MEPS packet was at the surgeon general to the time he said it was approved was just over 2 months. YMMV

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3 hours ago, yervis said:

From MEPS to AF Surgeon General to approval was, if I remember right, 2 to 4 weeks.

 

1 hour ago, Terminator5 said:

Must be nice lol. Mine took from the time my recruiter said my MEPS packet was at the surgeon general to the time he said it was approved was just over 2 months. YMMV

Thanks for the replies dudes! Hope mine is like yervis. 

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Hired: Jun 2019
FC1: Jan 2020 (rescheduled)
FC1: Jun 2020
FC1 Approved: Jul 2020
NGB Sent: Aug 2020
NGB Approved: Feb 2021

Can anyone give any info/experience on how long it takes to get TFOT and UPT dates once your packet is approved by NGB?

Classic "it depends" answer.

All up to how many slots NGB has and when they have them. I know a guy that got OTS dates about 3 months after his package was approved, then waited another 8 months after graduation to get UPT dates.

Another dude got OTS and UPT dates about 6 months after his package was approved. It's just luck haha.

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A little bit of a unique case, but thought I would post my timeline in case it helps anyone in the future!

Guard Fighter, 2d Lt Commissioned out of AFROTC

Begin College/AFROTC: August 2016

AFOQT: September 2017

TBAS: March 2018

AFROTC Field Training: June/July 2018

Reserve Rated Board(RCP-R)/Selection/Notification: October/November 2018

FC1: May 2019

College Graduation/Commissioning: May 2020

Gained/In-Processing with 340FTG: June 2020 - UPT start date October 2020

Guard Fighter Interview/Selection: June 2020 (week after in-processing)

Released from the Reserve/340FTG: October 2020

NGB Approval/Appointment/Swear into ANG: January 2021

UPT: September 2021, Vance AFB

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21 minutes ago, JabroniWizard said:

Has anyone run into trouble trying to get their unit to pay for FC1 travel? The finance dept. at my unit says I have to complete OTS before I get travel benefits.

Reserve side here. I’m trying to figure that out as well. If I find out something I’ll let you know.

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