Fuzz Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 No, we're not. Check sarcasm detector???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 No, we're not. Respectfully disagree. My brother is a cop and head of the SWAT Team at a large North East Department. Before making Lt he served as his department's chief firearms instructor. A few years back when I was visiting during their annual weapons qualification period, his police chief invited me to shoot the qualification course. I qualified very easily, five of the 50 officers there that day did NOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Granting concealed carry permits on a national basis for military makes sense, not because we're a 'special class', but because we frequently PCS to states we are not residents of without reciprocity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Respectfully disagree. My brother is a cop and head of the SWAT Team at a large North East Department. Before making Lt he served as his department's chief firearms instructor. A few years back when I was visiting during their annual weapons qualification period, his police chief invited me to shoot the qualification course. I qualified very easily, five of the 50 officers there that day did NOT. Respectfully agree to disagree. There's a lot more to being a cop than shooting (but I agree, most cops are lousy at it and many will admit it!) just as there is a lot more to being in the military than marching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 People aren't asking to be full-up cops, just concealed-carry firearms. Is there "a lot more" to national CCW than shooting and proper safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) People aren't asking to be full-up cops, just concealed-carry firearms. Is there "a lot more" to national CCW than shooting and proper safety? Yes you get to piss off every liberal from NYC to LA when you proudly stroll in their "Gun Free City". (Not a dig at you NsPlyr, more for the likes of Cuomo, Bloomberg, Emmanuel, Fienstein ect.) Edited February 12, 2013 by Scaredfuzz21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispeed7721 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Granting concealed carry permits on a national basis for military makes sense, not because we're a 'special class', but because we frequently PCS to states we are not residents of without reciprocity. Bullseye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hell, I'd be more impressed if state carry laws applied on military installations. I understand USC 18 Sec 930, but not even allowing people to keep personally-owned firearms in their vehicles when state law allows it is just stupid! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhistory Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hell, I'd be more impressed if state carry laws applied on military installations. I understand USC 18 Sec 930, but not even allowing people to keep personally-owned firearms in their vehicles when state law allows it is just stupid! BIG fcuking "2!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Respectfully agree to disagree. There's a lot more to being a cop than shooting (but I agree, most cops are lousy at it and many will admit it!) just as there is a lot more to being in the military than marching. Who said anything about being a cop...we were talking about weapons handling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Granting concealed carry permits on a national basis for military makes sense, not because we're a 'special class', but because we frequently PCS to states we are not residents of without reciprocity. I just think its a damn shame any law-abiding citizen has to "apply" to any level of govt for permission to exercise a codified inalienable right. That said, hu&w is right, military and LEO shouldn't get any "special" rights not available to John Q. Public. That said, I hope the petition passes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Who said anything about being a cop...we were talking about weapons handling? I'd much rather have national reciprocity for all CHL holders, being military should not give anyone more rights in this regard than an average citizen (which is Hacker's point). But I disagree with his claim that the same goes with law enforcement. That is one area where I think an exception needs to be made. I know quite a few LEOs and many have to take extraordinary bu necessary measures to protect themselves and their families. Chances are slim that military personnel are going to run into a Taliban at the local Walmart, but off-duty law enforcement officers always run the risk of bumping into felons they've arrested in a public place. Speaking of which, an amendment to LEOSA was passed this year which further clarified that military police officers and civilian police officers employed by the US Government unambiguously met the definitions in the original Act. What that means has yet to be decided by the DoD, but some believe this will give those who performed law enforcement duties in the military. What will be necessary is for the DoD to issue some sort of identification to those eligible (as law enforcement officers much have). To what extent the DoD will offer this has yet to be seen, but some speculate it could extend as far as to those who held UCMJ authority at one point (e.g. G-series orders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) http://entertainment...&lite=obnetwork At least Bruce Willis is in favor of the 2nd Amendment. Edited February 12, 2013 by Huggyu2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://entertainment...&lite=obnetwork At least Bruce Willis is in favor of the 2nd Amendment. "I am just here to support the President of the United States," Rock said. "The President of the United States is ... our boss." Crazy, here I was thinking the government worked for the people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChkHandleDn Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Just ordered this today. Hopefully it's as fun to shoot as the reviews say it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbonez Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) I've heard good things about the SP2022, and it is one of the few models SIG did right. It's an underrated firearm that deserves more recognition. What caliber did you get? Edited February 13, 2013 by Timbonez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChkHandleDn Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) I've heard good things about the SP2022, and it is one of the few models SIG did right. It's an underrated firearm that deserves more recognition. What caliber did you get? Well I was torn between this or the XDS .45, but I have a bunch of 9mm stocked up and no .45, so I ended up going with the 9mm. Edited February 13, 2013 by ChkHandleDn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Just a friendly heads up, Bud's Police Supply has some Smith & Wesson AR-15s in stock. Probably should act fast if you've been waiting to get an AR without being completely gouged on price. http://www.budspolic....php/cPath/4_10 edited to add clarification Edited February 13, 2013 by Creep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Just a friendly heads up, Bud's Police Supply has some Smith & Wesson AR-15s in stock. Probably should act fast if you've been waiting to get an AR without being completely gouged on price. http://www.budspolic....php/cPath/4_10 edited to add clarification Thanks for the heads up. If I was still into guns I would have just picked up an ORC and a m&P 22. Edited February 13, 2013 by Beaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just a friendly heads up, Bud's Police Supply has some Smith & Wesson AR-15s in stock. Probably should act fast if you've been waiting to get an AR without being completely gouged on price. http://www.budspolic....php/cPath/4_10 edited to add clarification I bought mine in Oct for $680 on Buds LE and then got the $100 rebate. Given the climate, this is a pretty damn good deal. Here's the link with the current $100 rebate: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757803_-1_757797_757797_image 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I bought mine in Oct for $680 on Buds LE and then got the $100 rebate. Given the climate, this is a pretty damn good deal. Here's the link with the current $100 rebate: http://www.smith-wes...97_757797_image Wow, now that's a deal. I've been waiting for Bud's LE to have the S&W M&P 22 Pistol in stock (going to buy it for my wife). Haven't seen it anywhere else for nearly as good of a price. It *is* however available on the regular Bud's shop but I'm not willing to spend an extra ~30% over the LE price just to get it today. I wish I knew how they determined what stock is made available between the LE inventory and the regular shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChkHandleDn Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) The S&W M&P 22 is in stock at grabagun.com for $320 http://grabagun.com/...-poly-rail.html PMAGs for $25 http://grabagun.com/...m-30rd-blk.html And Springfield 9mm XDM magazines for $33.20 shipped http://grabagun.com/...m-xdm-19rd.html I've ordered a Colt and my recent Sig from these guys and they have great customer service and fast shipping. Primaryarms.com has 3-pack 30 round Troy Industries BattleMags in stock too for $69.99: https://www.primaryarms.com/Troy_Industries_BattleMag_3_Pack_Black_p/smag-3pk-00bt-00.htm On a different note, I just ordered a CMMG .22LR conversion for my AR. I've read/watched nothing but good reviews on this conversion kit. I'll let you guys know how it is after I receive it from PSA in about a month. Edited February 14, 2013 by M2 Thanks for posting, but next time include the caliber on the SA mags. I was excited until I saw they were 9mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just grabbed an M6A5 (for me) & also an umarex .22 for my son. Now if I can find some .22 we might be in business..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispeed7721 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The S&W M&P 22 is in stock at grabagun.com for $320 http://grabagun.com/...-poly-rail.html PMAGs for $25 http://grabagun.com/...m-30rd-blk.html And Springfield XDM magazines for $33.20 shipped http://grabagun.com/...m-xdm-19rd.html I've ordered a Colt and my recent Sig from these guys and they have great customer service and fast shipping. Just ordered a CMMG .22LR conversion for my AR. I've read/watched nothing but good reviews on this conversion kit. I'll let you guys know how it is after I receive it from PSA in about a month. Nice job lookin out! Great prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsokimapilot Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 PMAGs for $25 http://grabagun.com/...m-30rd-blk.html . Damn it! That's the third time I've attempted to buy PMags this year. They are sold out within 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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