Day Man

Appreciate the Monday morning QB'ing, but I've had plenty in the past 3 years. If we knew the storm was that severe, do you honestly think we would have flown through it? If you have something constructive to add, please do. Otherwise, go add more nonsense to the IRA thread. This was one of my points of this thread; decisions at 0/0 are different than when you are considering the implications of not going home. Post-flameout, I would do nothing different; I get to kiss my wife every day, and any changes that day could ultimately affect that.

Copy Our planned alternate was OAIX...can you imagine the inbound call to ops with a jet full of Pakistani refugess?

Never did an AIB.

Ah...I have no desire to watch that video again. If you want to try, have at it!

When I get what?

Can't speak to findings, however, Wx radar training was a focus item after our SIB, so draw your own conclusions. We weren't allowed to go, but that is funny. I'm guessing the hail. Edit: according to the CDI "The presence of extreme precipitation is validated by damage to the aircraft radome." And I've never had the pleasure of meeting AMC/CC. He didn't have the balls to tell me in person, even though he was at my base less than a week before I got his disqualifying memo. Green, yellow, magenta Yes it was in auto mode. Magenta is moderate turbulence, and can cover-up more severe precip. We saw the same magenta that we saw before with no real precip or notable turbulence. Yes, I'm an idiot...what was the question? Bingo. Correct. They found it for the FEBs... green, yellow, magenta in that order. 17 Sept 2010. No idea on the range...

Thanks Counsel did their job for the FEB. One (of many) of my issues was that AMC/CC was briefed (several times) on the incident, which obviously included privileged interviews. He also had access to our testimonies for each other's FEBs which was under a grant of immunity. Shady... The day was planned UAFM-OPRN-OPSD-OPRN-UAFM for relief supply/emergency evac after huge floods in Pakistan. OPSD is a RIDICULOUS (for -17s) airfield (google Skardu). Picked up relief supplies at OPRN, found a hole in the layer over the field, and landed. Combat offload the pallets and park. OPRN was running out of pallets, so we had extended ground time to build pallets of pallets. We ended up floor-loading a bunch of pax (~170), and departed. There was some wispy clouds along the route of flight, but nothing that we felt was "true IFR." Approaching OPRN, we had bad comms. There were some cells on the wx radar that we maneuvered around, but nothing extreme. We asked to maneuver north of the field, but denied D2 Indian airspace. They sent us south, and we flew through one of the wx cells (it wasn't bad...light chop)where we lost comms with OPRN, until we eventually just turned around (the radios sucked anyways, plus the wx). We were instructed to proceed to the navaid at the field and descend, so we did. There was a cell over the field, but it looked similar to the one we had flown through previously and thought nothing of it. With a low power setting for the descent, we got into some HEAVY precip. I looked at the AC and said "we gotta get the outta here." He began a left turn, and everything went black. I thought it was a power surge from a lightning strike, but he immediately did the boldface. I then realized what had happened. I double checked his boldface steps were correct, and retrieved my checklist for clean-up. Like I said before, one of the next steps was to turn fuel off, but I wanted to give the engine a chance to light off (there was no time or altitude in the checklist when to proceed after the boldface was completed). I tried to back him up with airspeed (pitch for 250), but our stby indicators were 60+ knots off (turbulent airflow from the imploded nose), so I shut up. I even tried starting the APU which won't start in flight, but I figured if the electrical system was jacked, it might work (it didn't) 2&3 came online after a couple minutes giving us normal cockpit power through the split parallel system. We had no desire to run any other checklist since the AC could control the plane sufficiently and proceeded to final. Didn't bother with inputting told (bad airflow, 2 engine, winds out of limits), and I made sure important shit was completed (spoilers/gear). We were initially going to land 1/2 flap, but the AC called for 3/4 (standard 3 degree config) after the runway was made to make it smoother for the floor-loaded pax). The crap after roll-out is already posted above.

Good to hear. Did they show the video? What were the takeaways?

No I don't, and I consider myself very lucky. Again, why I'm disappointed by the dissemination of information regarding this mishap...a lot to learn.

2/3 are out Some things right, some things wrong...just like every flight Boldface (ignition orride & extend the RAT) was done immediately. One of the next steps was to turn the engine start switch off (cuts fuel), which I didn't want to do incase the engine was about to light off. My sense of time was very skewed, but the freefall lasted for several minutes. When we got power back, it looked like all 4 were online (all 4 EPRs appeared to be at idle). After about a minute, the EPR tapes on 1 & 4 disappeared, and the EGT started rising. We were on short final so elected to worry about it on the ground. On landing rollout, tower indicated 2 of our engines appeared to be on fire (no fire lights inside). I confirmed what he said, and T-handled/blew the bottles on 1&4. BCMR, and yes I had counsel. I also wrote letters to my congressman/senator, but nothing happened.

I'm guessing "they" were some SF dudes walking with leadership...

he hasn't been on in 9 months...

lotta retard in that "article"

that audio reminds me of Limnadia

jesus...that was worse than the "such as" chick from South Carolina

too many ?

AFSOC MC-12 different than standard MC-12 besides the spec ops fighter pilots?

Optimist.

great news! to the life support team

pro-tip: don't vote based on party...they're all assholes.

Prove it!

NY, CA, HI, Germany, England, Japan, Korea (for a few hours)

just got back from a month-long vacation flying Space A (mostly)...a few tidbits for those looking to do it in the future... - As others have said, sign up for SMS. Seriously. The comm between TACC/the crew/the pax terminal is lacking, and it saved my ass a couple times. - As soon as you get leave, send a shotgun email to every pax terminal you can think of (google it for the list). The earlier, the better. - Get an AF lodging account to reserve rooms online; there were a couple instances where a phone call yielded no results but online did - Cross-check Pax terminal facebook pages and SMS, and set bingo dates. Your hotel/food/car costs may eventually exceed commercial air tickets. Good luck...you get what you pay for