nunya, I went to AIS in 2011. Was quite bored...I like the mac daddy of approach lighting systems! I'm building a working model just like they have at AIS to incorporate into my IRC, in fact. Back on a serious note...that FM doesn't explain HOW to figure out which sector you are in to determine your holding entry (unless I missed it somewhere). That's what I really need. Skyking, so that's how you'd teach a brand new student at IQT? I don't need snark - I know how to figure it out, using my tried and true gang signs, I want to know how others have instructed it to figure out the best way to present it to the students. Thanks for playing.